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#101 Mallory Dan

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Posted 09 June 2005 - 11:59

Possibly the best Northern TNF turnout yet - 7 of us : Roger, Barry, David, me, Steve W, Gav, and Speedy Norm. Highlight was a DVD presentation by Roger/Barry of the pics from their recent French sojourn, though some of them were a bit techy for me, and some of the cars a little old for my 70/80s tastes !

Steve's Quiz, jointly won by David and Gav, was less popular than last time, as all mystery pics were from Sprinting/Climbing, no unusual circuit racers to challenge us. Cheers for the drink though Steve, the only man to buy a full round !

Nice to meet Speedy Norm, and hear his tales of Marshalling on Tuesday evenings at Aintree in the 70s, and having little time to clear kids off the track while Kim M and Norman D were circulating so rapidly.

Personally I felt the night was short of active discussions between all present, perhaps because we were distracted by food and so the conversation never really got started.

Any other comments chaps ?

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#102 Stephen W

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Posted 09 June 2005 - 12:58

Originally posted by Mallory Dan
Possibly the best Northern TNF turnout yet - 7 of us : Roger, Barry, David, me, Steve W, Gav, and Speedy Norm. Highlight was a DVD presentation by Roger/Barry of the pics from their recent French sojourn, though some of them were a bit techy for me, and some of the cars a little old for my 70/80s tastes !

Steve's Quiz, jointly won by David and Gav, was less popular than last time, as all mystery pics were from Sprinting/Climbing, no unusual circuit racers to challenge us. Cheers for the drink though Steve, the only man to buy a full round !

Nice to meet Speedy Norm, and hear his tales of Marshalling on Tuesday evenings at Aintree in the 70s, and having little time to clear kids off the track while Kim M and Norman D were circulating so rapidly.

Personally I felt the night was short of active discussions between all present, perhaps because we were distracted by food and so the conversation never really got started.

Any other comments chaps ?


Great to meet Gav, having seen his posts on TNF it is good to be able to put a face to the name - pity about the shirt though!

I thoroughly enjoyed the slide show and snatch of DVD. I'll try to put something together for a future evening.

As for the lack of active discussion I put that down to a certain party having his nose wedged into a bound volume of Autosport magazines!

On the quiz front, I suspect Dan you will be in BIG trouble as David is setting the questions. If I were you I'd start brushing up my IRS, OHC and BDAs now!

Already looking forward to the next get together!

#103 Gav Astill

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Posted 09 June 2005 - 15:46

Originally posted by Stephen W

Great to meet Gav, having seen his posts on TNF it is good to be able to put a face to the name - pity about the shirt though!

The (admittedly hideous) shirt was a freebie from Shell's Racing Dept at Stanlow where my better half used to work. I've got a whole load of Ducati stuff as well. Don't worry, you wont see it again.

#104 petefenelon

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Posted 09 June 2005 - 16:32

Originally posted by Mallory Dan

Nice to meet Speedy Norm, and hear his tales of Marshalling on Tuesday evenings at Aintree in the 70s, and having little time to clear kids off the track while Kim M and Norman D were circulating so rapidly.


....that was probably me he was chasing ;P

#105 David Beard

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Posted 09 June 2005 - 18:18

Originally posted by Mallory Dan

Personally I felt the night was short of active discussions between all present, perhaps because we were distracted by food and so the conversation never really got started.

Any other comments chaps ?


To be fair, Barry was busy tackling the World's Largest Mixed Grill, and the waitresses were pleasantly distracting :)

And you seemed to have lost interest in the de Dion tube :

#106 Stephen W

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Posted 09 June 2005 - 20:26

How could I forget Barry's Mixed Grill! And then he knicked some of Dan's Chips! How on earth he managed a SWEET afterwards is amazing!

Oh and yes the waitresses were far better than in the other pub!

On the De Dion Tube front I believe Dan is working on how to use one in a drink related scenario!

Keep the faith! :cool:

#107 Barry Boor

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Posted 09 June 2005 - 22:00

The truth of the situation was that in fact, it was only the onion rings that made the mixed grill look so large - and there was precious little onion in them, by the way. All previous comments re- waitresses are fully endorsed by myself.

The problem with group discussions, especially with 7 people, is that tastes vary so much that two-thirds of the group know very little about any one individual's main sphere of knowledge so things tail off rather quickly - e.g. I know marginally less than nothing about sprinting and hill-climbing; Dan knows a similar amount about techy stuff - one or two have no interest whatsoever in modern F.1, and only David Beard knows the diameter of every tube in a Lotus 16 chassis.

Only Roger can hold his own no matter what the topic.....

#108 Stephen W

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Posted 10 June 2005 - 12:43

Originally posted by Barry Boor
The truth of the situation was that in fact, it was only the onion rings that made the mixed grill look so large - and there was precious little onion in them, by the way. All previous comments re- waitresses are fully endorsed by myself.

The problem with group discussions, especially with 7 people, is that tastes vary so much that two-thirds of the group know very little about any one individual's main sphere of knowledge so things tail off rather quickly - e.g. I know marginally less than nothing about sprinting and hill-climbing; Dan knows a similar amount about techy stuff - one or two have no interest whatsoever in modern F.1, and only David Beard knows the diameter of every tube in a Lotus 16 chassis.

Only Roger can hold his own no matter what the topic.....


Typical, blame it on the Onion Rings! :lol:

As for the diverse nature of our interests, I quiet agree but that is what I find facinating. It wouldn't do if we all knew everything about Lotus 16 chassis tubes, one meeting and there would be nothing left to talk about. The fact that Dan is a Technical Black Hole and knows marginally less than I do is good fun. I do find Roger a bit intimidating! After all he does know everything about every subject - scary! So all in all I think it is a great experience to talk about subjects as diverse as 1970s FAtlantic, De Dion Tubes, the Connew F1 and Chris Nixon. The one thing that does come through though is our mutal love of all things to do with motor sport; Oh and waitresses! :cool:

#109 Norman Jones

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Posted 10 June 2005 - 15:54

Have finally got around to registering! Thanks for the company and hospitality given to myself, the "Gatecrasher" the other night. And good to put faces to names.
If there is to be a repeat of this evening then I must get up to the attic and get out my seventies paddock photos. F1, F2, Grp 5 etc. I am afraid the quiz was a little specialised for me.

Look forward to the next one.

Glad I did not give any lasting damage to the likes of peterfenelon by swearing / chasing him away from Beachers during the seventies!

#110 Barry Boor

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Posted 10 June 2005 - 18:14

EXCELLENT - a warm official TNF welcome, Norman.

#111 Roger Clark

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Posted 11 June 2005 - 05:03

Originally posted by Barry Boor
only David Beard knows the diameter of every tube in a Lotus 16 chassis.

Aren't they all the same? Would it be a spaceframe otherwise?

Norman, there will be a repeat and please do bring your 70's photos.

#112 Mallory Dan

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Posted 13 June 2005 - 12:15

Originally posted by Roger Clark

Aren't they all the same? Would it be a spaceframe otherwise?

Norman, there will be a repeat and please do bring your 70's photos.


Hear, hear !

#113 Mallory Dan

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Posted 12 July 2005 - 10:40

Any thoughts chaps, hows next week looking. IIRC Mr B suggested a NTNF BBQ at his place at one point !!

#114 Stephen W

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Posted 12 July 2005 - 15:42

Originally posted by Mallory Dan
Any thoughts chaps, hows next week looking. IIRC Mr B suggested a NTNF BBQ at his place at one point !!


Any night but Wednesday or Friday would be OK by me.

I'll start brushing up the History of the Lotus 16 ready for the picture quiz! :drunk:

#115 Barry Boor

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Posted 12 July 2005 - 15:56

Much too far for me I'm afraid, but don't let that deter the rest of you! :)

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Posted 12 July 2005 - 16:26

Originally posted by David Beard
...And you seemed to have lost interest in the de Dion tube :

I really hope to be able to get along from the soft south to join another Northern gathering before too long.
In which case I should be able to bring a de Dion tube with me.

#117 Roger Clark

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Posted 12 July 2005 - 18:16

Much as i appreciate the culinary skills of Mr (or perhaps Mrs) Beard, I would prefer somewhere that all the regulars can get to.

I can't make Tuesday nor Wednesday of next week.

#118 Mallory Dan

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Posted 14 July 2005 - 12:34

Hows next Thursday men, thats July 21 ?? Still on meeting matters, who's planning to go the Gold Cup, and on which day, or both. Mondays looking better for me at this time.

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Posted 14 July 2005 - 12:36

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#120 David Beard

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Posted 14 July 2005 - 16:28

Originally posted by Mallory Dan
Hows next Thursday men, thats July 21 ??


Should be OK for me. Will you come too Barry if it's Guilden Sutton again?

I'm happy to do a bit of a quiz...I promise there wil be absolutely no Lotus 16 questions....although there might be a few relating to my main interest 25 years ago ;)

#121 Rob Ryder

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Posted 14 July 2005 - 16:47

Originally posted by Mallory Dan
Hows next Thursday men, thats July 21 ?? Still on meeting matters, who's planning to go the Gold Cup, and on which day, or both. Mondays looking better for me at this time.

I'll be at the Gold Cup both days and hoping to met some TNFers for the very first time.
I guess there will be a meeting at Ted's tent?
Does anyone know if anything will be happening at the circuit on the Saturday?
Rob
P.S. Dan, any luck with ID on the GRD pic at Mallory?

#122 Mallory Dan

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Posted 14 July 2005 - 16:57

Sorry Rob, which pic is that. If its before 74 tho' I'm struggling !!

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Posted 14 July 2005 - 17:58

Originally posted by David Beard


....although there might be a few relating to my main interest 25 years ago ;)

Is that the current Mrs Beard?

I'm ok for the 21st, and will be at Oulton both days.

#124 Stephen W

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Posted 14 July 2005 - 18:03

Thursday July 21st Guilden Sutton seems OK for me.

Now all we need is a decision! :rotfl:

#125 Barry Boor

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Posted 14 July 2005 - 19:03

As I am working in Llanfairfechan next week, I will already be 20 minutes of the way to G.S, so it looks o.k. to me.

I will just have to work very late so I don't pitch up too early at the pub.....

#126 Rob Ryder

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Posted 14 July 2005 - 20:26

Originally posted by Mallory Dan
Sorry Rob, which pic is that. If its before 74 tho' I'm struggling !!

This from the email I sent a few days ago... maybe it was lost in the ether :confused:

"This cover of Autosport shows Tony Brise at Mallory in 1973, but do you know who is driving the GRD?
Mallory pic
Rob"

#127 Barry Boor

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Posted 14 July 2005 - 21:48

I looked at the picture and the name Andy Sutcliffe came immediately to my mind. I cannot explain why......

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Posted 14 July 2005 - 21:55

That's spooky - I was just thinking Andy Sutcliffe.
But from memory he featured in F3 more in 72 that 73 (??).

Masami Kuwashima was another GRD user that year though?

Presumably someone has that issue handy?

I remember Brise (and some others) using both March and GRD chassis during the same season, but which way did they switch?

Sorry, that's more questions than answers...

#129 Rob Ryder

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Posted 14 July 2005 - 22:54

Originally posted by 2F-001
I remember Brise (and some others) using both March and GRD chassis during the same season, but which way did they switch?


Tony started with the GRD and switched to a March ;)

#130 Jorge Felix

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Posted 14 July 2005 - 23:26

It's Pedro Passadore (Uruguay). :smoking:

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Posted 14 July 2005 - 23:34

Didn't Alan Jones drive a DART GRD in F3 in 1973? And Pedro Passadore was his team mate?... Or am I on the wrong track completely?

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Posted 15 July 2005 - 07:11

Originally posted by Jorge Felix
It's Pedro Passadore (Uruguay). :smoking:

Thanks Jorge :up:
P.S. can you check your Sapo mailbox.. I got a 'mailbox full' return :(

#133 Mallory Dan

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Posted 15 July 2005 - 08:45

Sorry to interrupt the 73 F3 thread men, but can we Northeners confirm next Thursday, say 7.30ish at GS ??

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Posted 15 July 2005 - 08:59

Originally posted by Mallory Dan
Sorry to interrupt the 73 F3 thread men, but can we Northeners confirm next Thursday, say 7.30ish at GS ??


This one can

#135 Stephen W

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Posted 15 July 2005 - 10:50

Originally posted by Jorge Felix
It's Pedro Passadore (Uruguay). :smoking:


It is Pedro Passadore AND the picture is from Oulton Park NOT Mallory Park.

:cool:

#136 Stephen W

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Posted 15 July 2005 - 10:51

Originally posted by Mallory Dan
Sorry to interrupt the 73 F3 thread men, but can we Northeners confirm next Thursday, say 7.30ish at GS ??


It is pencilled in my heavy schedule! :cool:

#137 Rob Ryder

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Posted 15 July 2005 - 11:00

Originally posted by Stephen W

It is Pedro Passadore AND the picture is from Oulton Park NOT Mallory Park. :cool:

:confused: Autosport 31/08/73... Brise wins at Mallory on 26/08/73... no races at Oulton that week :confused: :confused:

... back to the Northern meeting... :) ;)

#138 Gav Astill

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Posted 15 July 2005 - 11:52

Thursday is fine for me

(And that picure is Oulton Park)

#139 Mallory Dan

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Posted 15 July 2005 - 12:34

Why would they print a pic of Oulton, when describing a Mallory meeting ? I agree though, it don't look like Mallory, assuming thats a lake in the background. The Mallory lake was not at that angle compared to the hairpin.

David, as before I can give you a lift home if thats any use. Perhaps SW or RC could get you there ???

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#140 Norman Jones

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Posted 15 July 2005 - 18:10

Next thursdays ok with me - thats if I am invited.......Mind you that never stopped me before!

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Posted 15 July 2005 - 21:48

Originally posted by Mallory Dan
Why would they print a pic of Oulton, when describing a Mallory meeting ?


Maybe in those days the photo for the front cover of Autosport had to be at the printers early? So time constraints meant they couldn't use a photo from that weekend...

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Posted 15 July 2005 - 21:49

Originally posted by Mallory Dan
Why would they print a pic of Oulton, when describing a Mallory meeting ? I agree though, it don't look like Mallory, assuming thats a lake in the background. The Mallory lake was not at that angle compared to the hairpin.

David, as before I can give you a lift home if thats any use. Perhaps SW or RC could get you there ???

For the record, Autosport's caption correctly idenified both drivers and Oulton Park.

#143 Rob Ryder

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Posted 16 July 2005 - 20:05

Thanks Roger, that is that cleared up :up:. We can now leave this thread to it's intended purpose :blush:

#144 Adam F

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Posted 16 July 2005 - 20:58

I should be OK to join my first Northern TNF meeting next Thursday.

Look forward to seeing you all.

#145 David Beard

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Posted 17 July 2005 - 15:11

Originally posted by Adam F
I should be OK to join my first Northern TNF meeting next Thursday.

Look forward to seeing you all.


That's good news, Adam :)

#146 Mallory Dan

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Posted 18 July 2005 - 12:09

Adam, thats great, and Norm see you Thursday. Roger, could I borrow the next 3 mths A/Sports please, thats April-June 1978. I'll return the ones I currently have.

#147 Mallory Dan

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Posted 19 July 2005 - 15:13

Any quizzes lined up for Thursday gents ??

#148 David Beard

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Posted 19 July 2005 - 18:52

Originally posted by Mallory Dan
Any quizzes lined up for Thursday gents ??


As promised earlier......

#149 David Beard

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Posted 27 July 2005 - 20:49

Nobody has commented, but I thought it was a great evening, despite my quiz :

We spoke about Nardi...just found this photo which I think I took at the Doune Museum a few years ago. Anyone know about it?

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#150 Adam F

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Posted 28 July 2005 - 09:00

As a first-timer, I certainly enjoyed last Thursday's get together - including your quiz, David.

I always knew that studying the minutiae of the Goodwood Revival paddock would come in useful someday!