Cordoba 1960
#1
Posted 11 July 2005 - 09:28
Thanks in advance.
Hugo Boecker
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#2
Posted 12 July 2005 - 18:26
Somewhere there are more details of grid positions etc but my internet connection is so slow at the moment I can't track them down.
#3
Posted 14 July 2005 - 11:57
#4
Posted 14 July 2005 - 15:18
Originally posted by KJJ
OK, there is a lot of information including practice times for this race, where else but here on TNF! On the thread entitled "Buenos Aires GP"
KJJ thanks
#5
Posted 09 November 2012 - 07:15
Does anyone have any information about the 1960 circuit?
#6
Posted 09 November 2012 - 08:38
In the Buenos Aires GP thread the length of the 1960 circuit is given as either 3.2 or 3.4 km. There is also a description of the circuit, taken from DCN’s Cooper Cars, which mentions a statue on the track which cars had the option of passing on either side (!). Checking the Google Earth view of Parque Sarmiento on Guido’s site, a large statue can be seen at the extreme right of the circuit. Perhaps the earlier circuit was a slightly longer version of the 1964 track?
Edited by Tim Murray, 09 November 2012 - 08:39.
#7
Posted 09 November 2012 - 08:45
I hope that one of our very few Argentine members might shed some more light.
#8
Posted 10 November 2012 - 18:52
I hope so, Tim, because that looks like a fun circuit to drive on.
I hope that one of our very few Argentine members might shed some more light.
Definitely, the 1960 Cordoba Grand Prix was held at the Parque Sarmiento circuit. The 1967 airfield track was a one-off.
The circuit in the GP layout is that one available at Guido's site. It had 3.220 meters of extension. Average speed 122,531 km/h
#9
Posted 10 November 2012 - 19:05
However, as Tim has already mentioned, the Parque Sarmiento circuit, as shown on a couple of different websites, is about 165 meters short of the 3,220 that Pablo quotes. I can see only one possibility that might increase the length but even that comes up 50 meters short.
Edited by Barry Boor, 10 November 2012 - 19:38.
#10
Posted 10 November 2012 - 19:35
XVI Gran Premio Ciudad de Buenos Aires (El Grafico)
Otherwise a tricky one ...
El Grafico does not a give a circuit distance at all ...
El Litoral (daily newspaper form Santa Fe) too ...
The Autocar 2.2 miles ... and
Road & Track ca. 1.9 miles!
The race distance of 75 laps seems to be undisputed.
El Grafico gives a time for the winner of 1h 53m 50.9s and a speed of 122.533 km/h ...
El Litoral with the same time but 122.531 km/h ...
The Autocar again the same time with a speed of 76.14 mph ... and
Road & Track has the same time with a speed of 76.420 mph
Fastest lap for Bruce McLaren.
El Grafico gives a time 1m 27.2s and a speed of 127.971 km/h (20th lap) ...
El Litoral with the same time but 127.081 km/h ...
The Autocar again the same time with a speed of 79.50 mph ... and
Road & Track has the same time with a speed of 79.521 mph
#11
Posted 10 November 2012 - 19:43
Edited by Barry Boor, 10 November 2012 - 19:43.
#12
Posted 10 November 2012 - 19:46
Surely this was the
XVI Gran Premio Ciudad de Buenos Aires (El Grafico)
Otherwise a tricky one ...
El Grafico does not a give a circuit distance at all ...
El Litoral (daily newspaper form Santa Fe) too ...
The Autocar 2.2 miles ... and
Road & Track ca. 1.9 miles!
In 2007 I wrote a special issue of El Grafico on motor racing in Cordoba, and made a 4-page piece on that race. I was quoting myself on that circuit distance, and I guess my source back then were the preview of the race in a back issue of the magazine.
But, seeing it carefully, I made the calculation from the average speed of the race and of the fastest lap, and the result is 3.1 kilometres exactly.
Now, this is an interesting recalling of the race here: http://www.huellasde.../La_F1_en_2.pdf
It puts the distance (see page 3) in 3.1 kilometres.
Pablo
Edited by Pablo Vignone, 10 November 2012 - 19:59.
#13
Posted 10 November 2012 - 20:16
I'm fascinated to see that Brabham appears to be driving the Cooper that McLaren used to win at Sebring two months earlier.
#14
Posted 10 November 2012 - 22:49
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#18
Posted 11 November 2012 - 16:17