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#1 Martin Krejci

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Posted 08 October 2005 - 09:21

I have found that my results of several notable late 1963 season North American sportscar races are rather poor, so I would like to ask here for a help to fill in the gaps. It's mainly Laguna Seca GP, Bridgehampton 500 kms and also Kent Pacific North West GP. Here is what I have (more can be found at http://wsrp.wz.cz/natus1963.html):


200 mile Laguna Seca
Pacific Grand Prix 200, Laguna Seca Raceway, Monterey Date: 20.10.1963


Circuit lenght: 3,090 km Race distance: 308,994 km Winner's average speed: 133,897 km/h

Pos. No. Driver / Nationality Car Entrant Laps Time/retired Pos. Group Pos. Practice
1. 98 Dave MacDonald (USA) Cooper - Ford Shelby American 100 2:09:19,200
2. 91 A. J. Foyt (USA) Scarab - Oldsmobile 100 2:10:04,000
3. 55 Jim Hall (USA) Chaparral 2A Chevrolet 001 Chaparral Cars Inc. 97 4.
4. - Dave Ridenour (USA) Genie - Buick 97
5. - Harry Heuer (USA) Chaparral 1 Chevrolet 002 97
Other starters:
- Walt Hansgen (USA) ? 5.
- R. Harrison Ford 3. 1:12,900
- Clark ? 2. 1:12,500
- Bob Holbert (USA) Cooper - Ford 1. 1:11,800
6 Roger Penske (USA) Cooper - Chevrolet Mecom
20 Frank Gardner (AUS) Brabham BT5 Ford SC-1-63 Ian Walker Racing


500 km Bridgehampton
Double 500, Bridgehampton, Long Island Date: 15.9.1963


Circuit lenght: Race distance: 506,942 km Winner's average speed: 147,255 km/h

Pos. No. Driver / Nationality Car Entrant Laps Time/retired Pos. Group Pos. Practice
1. 60 Walt Hansgen (USA) Cooper - Buick 108
2. 26 Pedro Rodriguez (MEX) Ferrari 250P 0810 North American Racing Team 1.
3. 47 Dan Gurney (USA) Ferrari 330 LM
4. - Herb Swan (USA) Porsche 718 RS60
5. - William Wonder (USA) Porsche 718 RS60
6. - Ed Cantrell (USA)
Charlie Kolb (USA) Ferrari 250 GTO 3767GT
Did not finish:
1 John Surtees (GB) Ferrari 275P 0814 DNF
Other starters:
79 xxx ?


200 mile Kent
Pacific North West Grand Prix, Kent, Pacific Raceways Date: 29.9.1963


Circuit lenght: 3,621 km Race distance: 325,892 km Winner's average speed: 138,806 km/h

Pos. No. Driver / Nationality Car Entrant Laps Time/retired Pos. Group Pos. Practice
1. 3 Lloyd Ruby (USA) Lotus 19 Ford Harrison 90 2:20:23,500
2. 1 Rodger Ward (USA) Cooper Monaco Chevrolet Nickey 90
3. 78 Stan Burnett (USA) Ferrari 250 TRI/61 0794TR 88
60 Don Wester (USA) Porsche 718 RS61 ex-Bob Donner 88 1. 2.0
Did not finish:
110 Graham Hill (GB) Lotus 23 Climax Roy Winkelmann Gearbox
Other starters:
- Dave Ridenour (USA) Genie - Oldsmobile
50 Ken Miles (USA) Shelby Cobra
92 Skip Hudson (USA) Chaparral 1 Chevrolet 004 Team Meridian
98 Dave MacDonald (USA) Shelby King Cobra Ford Shelby American
Did not start:
- Innes Ireland (GB) Lotus 19 Ferrari Rosebud Racing Accident in practice


Heat 1
Circuit lenght: 3,621 km Race distance: 162,946 km Winner's average speed: 138,725 km/h

Pos. No. Driver / Nationality Car Entrant Laps Time/retired Pos. Group Pos. Practice
1. 3 Lloyd Ruby (USA) Lotus 19 Ford Harrison 45 1:10:12,000
2. 1 Rodger Ward (USA) Cooper Monaco Chevrolet Nickey 45
3. 110 Graham Hill (GB) Lotus 23 Climax Roy Winkelmann 44
4. 60 Don Wester (USA) Porsche 718 RS61 ex-Bob Donner 44 2.0
5. 78 Stan Burnett (USA) Ferrari 250 TRI/61 0794TR 44


Heat 2
Circuit lenght: 3,621 km Race distance: 162,946 km Winner's average speed: 138,886 km/h

Pos. No. Driver / Nationality Car Entrant Laps Time/retired Pos. Group Pos. Practice
1. 3 Lloyd Ruby (USA) Lotus 19 Ford Harrison 45 1:10:11,500
2. 1 Rodger Ward (USA) Cooper Monaco Chevrolet Nickey 45
3. - Dave Ridenour (USA) Genie - Oldsmobile 45
4. 78 Stan Burnett (USA) Ferrari 250 TRI/61 0794TR 44
5. 60 Don Wester (USA) Porsche 718 RS61 ex-Bob Donner 44 2.0
Did not finish:
110 Graham Hill (GB) Lotus 23 Climax Roy Winkelmann Gearbox

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#2 WINO

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Posted 08 October 2005 - 14:38

John Surtees did not show up for the Bridgehampton 500 KM, although he may have been entered originally.

I can help you with the eight fastest qualifiers in the Pacific Raceways and Laguna Seca professional events.

Northwest GP [Pacific Raceways]

1. Holbert, Shelby Cooper/Ford, 1'26"8
2. Gurney, Qvale Genie/Ford, 1'27"2
3. Grant, Bardahl Lotus 19/Buick, 1'29"9
4. Ruby, Harrison Spl/Fortd, 1'28"2
5. MacDonald, Shelby Cooper/Ford, 1'28"3
6. Daigh, Arciero Lotus 19/Climax, 1'29"4
7. Reinhart, Genie/Chevy, 1'29"8
8. Ridenour, Spencer Genie/Olds, 1'30"2

Pacific GP [Laguna Seca]

1. Holbert, Shelby King Cobra, 1'11"8
2. Clark, Arciero Lotus 19/Climax, 1'12"5
3. Ruby, Harrison Spl/Ford, 1'12"9
4. Hall, Chaparral 2/Chevy, 1'13"2
5. Hansgen, Cunningham Genie/Ford, 1'14"0
6. Rodriguez, Qvale Genie/Ford, 1'14"0
7. Foyt, Scarab/Olds, 1'14"7
8. Mayer, Lotus 23/Ford, 1'14"8


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#3 Martin Krejci

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Posted 08 October 2005 - 15:41

Dear WINO,

thank you very much.
I suppose that "3. Grant, Bardahl Lotus 19/Buick, 1'29"9" should be 1'27"9" to fit other times.
Is there any idea what driver was the Meyer mentioned in Laguna Seca?

Martin

#4 WINO

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Posted 08 October 2005 - 15:59

Martin,

Sorry for the typo with the Jerry Grant time. It was Tim Mayer, brother of Teddy Mayer, who drove the Lotus 23 at Laguna Seca.


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Posted 09 October 2005 - 04:57

Here is some more:

Bridgehampton

Qualifying

1. Hansgen, 1'46.0
2. 62, Paul Richards, Cooper Monaco / Buick CM 1/62, 1'48.3
3. Rodriguez, 1'49.2
4. Ken Miles, Cobra
5. Bob Holbert, Cobra

Results

1. Hansgen, Cooper Monaco / Buick CM 3/61, Entrant Briggs Cunningham, 110 laps, Group S
2. Rodriguez, 110 laps, Group S
3. Gurney, 109 laps, Group S
4. Swan, 105 laps, Group S
5. 79? William Wonder, SHOULD BE Genie-Chev (not Porsche), 105 laps, Group S
6. Cantrell/Kolb/ AND Lynn Coleman, 103 laps, Group GT-III
7. Alan Wylie/Gerry Georgi, Sting Ray, 101 laps, Group GT-III
8. Don Yenko, Sting Ray, 98 laps, Group GT-III
9. Ross McLain, Lister-Chev, 98 laps, Group S
10. Don Sesslar, Porsche RS-60, 98 laps, Group S
11. Henry Taylor, Ford Cortina, Group GT-II
12. Szwarce/Ziereis, Porsche Carrera, Group GT-II
13. Rainville/Davis, Lotus Elite, Group GT-II
14. Herb Wetanson, Porsche-Abarth, Group GT-II
15. Miles, Group GT-III
16. Theodoracopulos/Ziereis, Alfa Giulia, Group GT-II
17. Art Riley, Volvo P-1800, Group GT-II
18. Donohue/Rothschild, TVR, Group GT-II
19. Dick Thompson, Entrant Grady Davis, Corvette Gran Sport
DNF
Richards, off course, "stuck in the sand", 0 laps
Holbert
61, Briggs Cunningham, Entrant Briggs Cunningham, Maserati T-64 / Ford 64.002
Miles
other starters
Charlie Kolb, Entrant Ed Cantrell, Lotus 23B
Joe Buzzetta, Porsche RS-60
Bob Johnson, Cobra

More later...I'm gonna go watch the GP! If it gets boring, I may be back!

Vince Howlett, Victoria, B.C., Canada

#6 Martin Krejci

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Posted 09 October 2005 - 06:53

Thank you very much. It's clear that many cars started previous day in another 500 kms race that was part of International GT Championship and that is covered in Time and Two Seats book. I found one discrepancy (Don Yenko wouldn't be Sting Ray previous day - is Sting Ray definite in this race?) and would think that all GT cars had the same race number as in the first race. Can anybody confirm if that's right?

Martin

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Posted 09 October 2005 - 07:19

I used the Road and Track report. It said "the grid (on Sunday) was filled with...three Sting Rays headed by Don Yenko..." The results list the Wylie/Georgi and Yenko cars as Sting Rays. Your TeamDan results show them driving Chevrolet Corvettes on the previous day...same thing, I think. Also, on Sunday, it says "...Miles started fourth in the Cobra he had driven the day before (CSX2129) with Bob Holbert beside him in the machine with which Gurney had won the opener (CSX2137). I can't confirm about the GT car race numbers.

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Posted 09 October 2005 - 07:23

Also found this. Looks like Skip Hudson ran the Team Meridian Maserati 151 there too.

http://www.qv500.com/maserati151p3.php

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Posted 09 October 2005 - 07:47

Me again. The program for the '63 Bridgehampton race is for sale on Ebay...one day left!

http://search-desc.e...Z2QQxpufuZxQ5A1

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#10 Martin Krejci

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Posted 09 October 2005 - 20:58

Dear Vince,

thank you very much for your reseach and help, I hope you did enjoy the Grand Prix :-) .

Could you add some more information also about other two races?

Kind regards,

Martin

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Posted 10 October 2005 - 06:55

Martin,

No problem, I enjoy it...the finish of the Grand Prix was good!

Yes, here is the Northwest Grand Prix, Pacific Raceways, Kent, 1963

Qualifying

The local paper had these times for Holbert and Daigh, and Competition Press confirms this time for Holbert:
1. 99, Holbert, 1'26.5
6. 15, Daigh, Entrant Arciero Bros. Racing, 1'29.5 (Did not start)

others:
9. 89, Parnelli Jones, Lotus 23, Entrant Arciero Bros. Racing, 1'30.2 (Did not start)
10. Rodger Ward, Cooper Chev, 1'31.4
11. Chuck Parsons, Lotus 23, 1'32.1
12. Jerry Titus, BMC Genie, 1'32.6
13. Ed Leslie, Lotus 23B, 1'32.9
14. Don Wester, Porsche RS 61, 1'33.2
15. Graham Hill, Lotus 23, 1'33.4
16. Don Jensen, Mariah, 1'33.5
17. George Grinzewitsch, Cooper Monaco, 1'33.7
18. Stan Burnett, Ferrari, 1'34.5
19. 102, Jack Nethercutt, Lotus 19, Entrant Jack Nethercutt, 1'34.8 (Did not start)
20. Ron Dykes, Maserati Birdcage, 1'38.1
21. Jim Rattenbury, Porsche Special, 1'39.2
22. Jerry Matthews, Lotus 11, 1'39.9
23. Lyle Forsgren, Forsgrini Veloce, 1'40.9
24. John Razzelle, AC Cobra, 1'41.2
25. Edna Sherman, Lotus 23, 1'42.0
26. Paul Scott, Lotus 15, 1'42.5
27. Jim Von Kirbach, Lotus 11, 1'43.5
28. 36, Bob Clark, Harris Mk 11 Special, Entrant Trevor Lee Harris, 1'48.9 (Did not start)
29. Tony Schaff, Fiat Monza, 2'11.5 (Did not start - thank goodness!)
30. Skip Hudson, Chaparral (did not run in qualifying, given position by race director)

Ken Miles was on the entry list in the #50 Porsche RS 61 from Precision Motor Cars but there is no record of him taking part

Heat 1

1. 3, Ruby, Entrant J. Frank Harrison
2. 1, Ward, Entrant, Entrant Nickey Chev. Sales, Inc.
3. Hill, *Lotus 23, (Entrant, BOB Winkelmann according to local paper and Dave Pease in Competition Press, ROY Winkelmann according to Dave Pease in Road & Track!)
4. 60, Wester, *Porsche RS 61, Entrant Porsche Car Pacific, Inc.
5. 78, Burnett, Ferrari, Entrant Hahn Racing Division
6. 123, Paul Scott, *Lotus 15 610-2, Entrant Paul Scott, 41
7. 148, Lyle Forsgren, *Forsgrini Veloce-Alfa, Entrant Lyle M. Forsgren, 40
8. 198, Jerry Matthews, *Lotus 11, Entrant Jerry Matthews, 39
9. 59 John Razzelle, AC Cobra CSX2035, Entrant John Razzelle, 38
10. 7? Dan Gurney, Genie Mk 8-Ford 003, Entrant Kjell Qvale (B.M.C.), 37
11. 162, Don Jensen, Mariah Special, Entrant Don L. Jensen, 37
12. 8, Jerry Grant, Lotus-Buick, Entrant Bardahl Oil Corp., 34
13. 61, Paul Reinhart, Genie-Chevrolet, Entrant Paul Reinhart, 28
DNF
10, Charles Parsons, Entrant Randy Hilton, Lotus 23
146, Dave Ridenour, Genie-Olds 001, Entrant Dave Ridenour
92, Skip Hudson, Chaparral 004, Entrant Team Meridian
18, Ed Leslie, Lotus 23, Entrant Webster Rac. Ent.
180, George Grinzewitsch, Cooper Monaco, Entrant Von Housen's Motors
Ron Dykes, Type 61 Maserati
Jim von Kirbach, Lotus 11
51, Jim Rattenbury, Porsche Special, Entrant Jim Rattenbury
98, Dave MacDonald, King Cobra, Entrant Shelby American, Inc.
99, Bob Holbert, King Cobra, Entrant Shelby American, Inc.
23, Edna Sherman, Lotus 23, Entrant Chuck Trowbridge
16, Jerry Titus, Genie-Corvair, Entrant John M. Grow—Friendly Chev.

Heat 2

1. 3, Ruby, Entrant J. Frank Harrison
2. 1, Ward, Entrant Nickey Chev. Sales, Inc.
3. 146, Dave Ridenour, Genie-Olds 001, Entrant Dave Ridenour
4. 78, Burnett, Ferrari, Entrant Hahn Racing Division
5. 60, Wester, *Porsche RS 61, Entrant Porsche Car Pacific, Inc.
6. 8, Jerry Grant, Lotus 19-Buick, Entrant Bardahl Oil Corp., 43
7. 148, Lyle Forsgren, *Forsgrini-Veloce-Alfa, Entrant Lyle M. Forsgren, 39
8. 198, Jerry Matthews, *Lotus 11, Entrant Jerry Matthews, 38
9. 7?, Dan Gurney, Genie Mk 8-Ford 003, Entrant Kjell Qvale (B.M.C.), 35
10. 123, Paul Scott, *Lotus 15 610-2, Entrant Paul Scott
11. 162, Don Jensen, Mariah Special, Entrant Don L. Jensen
DNF
98, Dave MacDonald, King Cobra, Entrant Shelby American, Inc.
61, Paul Reinhart, Genie-Chev, Entrant Paul Reinhart
Graham Hill, Lotus 23, Entrant BOB Winkelmann? (Roy?)
180, George Grinzewitsch, Cooper Monaco, Entrant Von Housen's Motors
59, John Razzelle, AC Cobra CSX2035, Entrant John Razzelle

*Denotes under-2-liter class

Vince H.

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Posted 10 October 2005 - 06:58

Here are the chassis numbers for the King Cobras

Kent GP - Sep. 1963
DNF D.MacDonald 98 King Cobra CM/1/63
DNF B.Holbert 99 King Cobra CM/3/63

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#13 Martin Krejci

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Posted 10 October 2005 - 18:33

Dear Vince,

thank you very much.
Weren't there some more two-litre cars than those marked with *?

Grand Prix was rather enjoyable, I think :-) Moreover I am a McLaren fan since their Can-Am days :-)

It would be great, if you could have a look at Laguna Seca later.

Best wishes,

Martin

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Posted 10 October 2005 - 23:37

Interesting to these results posted as this was in and around the time when my passion for motorsports was kindled. Of special note to me is the Kent 1963 entry for Graham Hill. When did he log a qualifying time for this race? I'm somewhat incredulous at his participating in the Kent go when the day prior, he racked up 100 laps of Mosport on his way to P2 in the Canadian GP.

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Posted 11 October 2005 - 02:34

And talk about the incompetence of scheduling two major professional sportscar racing events in North America on the same weekend!

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Posted 11 October 2005 - 05:27

From the Seattle Times, Sunday, September 29, 1963:

"Hill, world's champion from London, will be in the sixth row. He did not arrive until late last night, but Bob Winkelmann of Mill Valley, Claif., owner of the Lotus 23B Hill will drive, qualified the car at 1'33.4"

From the Road & Track report:

"Starting dead last because he hadn't arrived in time to qualify, Graham Hill showed the fans and drivers what it was all about by threading Roy Winkelmann's Lotus 23B/1.9 Climax through to third overall" (in the first heat)

As for the same weekend thing, I believe the Kent race was a USAC event, while the Canadian GP obviously wasn't, if that explains anything!

And yes, of course, Parsons, Leslie, Grinzewitsch, Dykes, von Kirbach, Rattenbury, and Sherman would have been under 2-litre too. Sorry about that. Also Schaff although he apparently didn't start. Jones' Lotus 23 was 2.5 litres.

As for the Grand Prix, I've been kind of cheering for Kimi since I bought his 2004 McLaren Mercedes slot car!

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Posted 11 October 2005 - 08:46

Originally posted by WINO
And talk about the incompetence of scheduling two major professional sportscar racing events in North America on the same weekend!

WINO


It wasn't so much a matter of "incompetence" as the very nature of the business in those days: it was pretty much each and every promoter for himself.

The West Coast events were still aligned with USAC at that moment, although with a heavy reliance on the SCCA for assistance, even if not officially, since the flag crews and so forth were generally supplied by the local SCCA regions.

At least the Canadians were still holding their races on Saturdays back then otherwise it would have been even more hectic for a few.

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Posted 11 October 2005 - 11:56

Let's see: only five major professional sportscar races on the calendar in North America for 1963, two in Canada and three in the U.S. Scheduling two on the same weekend can hardly be attributed to some "promotor." These were FIA approved events allowing international drivers to participate. It did provide a excellent way to dilute the fields at Pacific Raceways and Mosport, with the latter suffering the most. Same happened the previous year between Bridgehampton and Mosport, another Canadian GP.

The Times GP program has the driver Winkelmann -- of Mill Valley-- down as Robert. However, the entrant is listed as R. Winkelmann: brother Roy???

The Arciero Lotus 23 of Parnelli Jones actually had a 2.7 liter Climax shoehorned in the back.


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Posted 11 October 2005 - 21:07

Found another bit from the September 29, 1963 Seattle paper:

"Bob Winklemann (sp), owner, sat in the sleek Lotus 23, hoping in vain that he would drive it today (Sunday), exchanging banter with Mr. and Mrs. Joe Crooks and Mrs. Vicky Buttery. All are from Mill Valley, Calif.--although Winklemann's home base originally was London, and he sounds it..."

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Posted 12 October 2005 - 01:49

At Kent, Ron Dykes in the Maserati may have been under 2 litre too...he was entered at Laguna Seca as under 2 litre...

Here's what I can find on Laguna Seca:

192 mile
Monterey Pacific Grand Prix, '63

Qualifying

9. 62, Dick Thompson, Maserati T-64-Ford 64.002, Entrant Momo Auto Dist., 1'14.9
10. 16, Roger Penske, Zerex Special, Entrant Mecom Racing Team, 1'15.0
11. 1, Graham Hill, Lotus 23B, Entrant Ian Walker Racing Ltd., 1'15.0*
12. 10, Charles Parsons, Lotus 23B, Entrant Randy Hilton, 1'15.6*
13. 8, Jerry Grant, Lotus 19-Buick, Entrant Bardahl, 1'15.6
14. 211, Richie Ginther, Porsche RS61, Entrant Otto Zipper, 1'15.9*
15. 18, Ed Leslie, Lotus 23B, Entrant Webster Racing Ents., 1'16.1*
16. 22, Harry Heuer, MeisterBrauser Chaparral Chev 002, Entrant Peter Hand Brewery, 1'16.2
17. 7, Bill Krause, Elva, Entrant Art Snyder, 1'16.4*
18. 65, Jack Flaherty, Genie-Climax, Entrant British Motors Monterey, 1'16.5*
19. 20, Frank Gardner, Brabham-Ford SC-1-63, Entrant Ian Walker Racing, 1'16.6*
20. 111, Skip Hudson, Cooper-Chevy, Entrant Nickey Chevrolet, 1'16.6
21. 15, Augie Pabst, Lotus 19, Entrant Mecom Racing Team, 1'16.7*
22. 60, Don Wester, Porsche RS61, Entrant Porsche Car Pacific, 1'16.8*
23. 146, Dave Ridenour, Genie-Buick 001, Entrant Spencer Buick, 1'17.3
24. 76, Masten Gregory, Elva-Porsche, Entrant Ollie Schmidt, 1'17.7*
25. 96, Allen Grant, AC Cobra-Ford CSX2128, Entrant Coventry Motors, 1'18.2

* - under 2 litres

PLEASE NOTE - Friday - "First six grid positions awarded to fastest qualifiers on Friday"
Sunday - "Final qualifying for Grand Prix. All positions open except first six which go to fastest Friday qualifiers."
The times listed above are from the Friday qualifying only. Wino's appear to be from Friday too. I don't have the Sunday final qualifying times. In Sunday qualifying, "Then came the accident to Seattle's Jerry Grant, who was enveloped with flames and slightly burned when the fuel tank of his Lotus-Buick broke."

Results (some)

1st OA- 98 Dave MacDonald, King Cobra Cooper Ford CM/1/63, Entrant Shelby American
16th OA - 62, Dick Thompson, Maserati T-64-Ford 64.002, Entrant Momo Auto Dist.

under 2 litres
1. 11, Tim Mayer, Lotus 23B, Entrant Tim Mayer

DNF
99, Bob Holbert, King Cobra Cooper-Ford CM/3/63, Entrant Shelby American
5, Jim Clark, Lotus 19, Entrant Arciero Bros., 32 laps
3, Lloyd Ruby, Harrison-Ford Special, Entrant J. Frank Harrison
16, Roger Penske, Cooper-Zerex Special, Entrant Mecom Racing Team, 82 laps
66, Pedro Rodriguez, Genie-Ford 003, Entrant Kjell Qvale
15, Augie Pabst, Lotus 19, Entrant Mecom Racing Team (under 2 litres)
61,Walt Hansgen, Genie Mk 8-Ford, Entrant Momo Auto Dist.

Again, that's all I could find on Laguna Seca '63

Vince H.

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Posted 12 October 2005 - 17:21

Dear Vince,

thank you very much for all those results. If I understand it well Jerry Grant was a non-starter, correct?
Not sure if that's available but I don't know entrant's name of Foyt's car?

There is some uncertaintity about Penske's car I think. I was told that "Penske was driving a strange Mecom-Cooper-Chevy , not the usual Cooper-Climax--Zerex Special, there is an SCG's report on it." If that's correct then I prefer to call it just Cooper-Ford rather than Zerex Special.

Best wishes,

Martin

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Posted 12 October 2005 - 18:07

Foyt's car was the rear-engined Scarab, bought only a few weeks earlier by John Mecom from Reventlow.

As for Penske's car at Laguna in 1963, that started life as McLaren's works Cooper Monaco T61, raced on the West Coast in 1962. Mecom bought that one as well. Although Penske raced the original Zerex/Climax at Riverside, he switched to the former McLaren Cooper at Laguna. However, by then it featured a 327 Chevy engine and the bodywork [and possibly the chassis] were changed completely. It looked like an effort to produce a second-generation Zerex. At Mecom they called it the Mecom/Chevy. It was not a success and was sold almost immediately.


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Posted 12 October 2005 - 21:34

As for Jerry Grant, I can't confirm whether or not he started...I presume he didn't.

Vince H.

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Posted 13 October 2005 - 06:28

Thanks to all. WINO, have you any idea if Mecom used the Mecom/Chevy in any other races (and which in particular) and whom he sold it to?

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Posted 13 October 2005 - 15:17

There is a race-by-race account of the Scarab in the Nov/Dec issue of Vintage Motorsport.

In 1965 John Mecom sold the car to Augie Pabst who, I believe, recently sold it again.


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Posted 19 November 2005 - 19:25

Martin, if you look at the Shelby King Cobra thread, the January 1964 Road & Track report on the 1963 Pacific Grand Prix at Laguna Seca is there, with all the results.

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Posted 20 November 2005 - 17:59

Hello Vince,

thank you very much for your advise. :-)

Martin