Maserati Eldorado
#1
Posted 28 December 2005 - 09:28
(This is just a rough mockup)
I would really like to be able to model the original version as run at the Race of Two Worlds, here is a picture,
My question is, does anyone know what the small flag is below the 'Stirling Moss' name and also anywhere where I can find some colour pictures of the original car, not the restored version?
Thanks for any onfo,
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#2
Posted 28 December 2005 - 11:07
I took some pictures of this car at Goodwood a couple of years ago. I'll look to see if I have one showing that side.
#3
Posted 28 December 2005 - 11:25
#4
Posted 28 December 2005 - 12:33
#5
Posted 28 December 2005 - 13:47
http://8w.forix.com/rotw/eldorado.jpg
That one doesn't feature the ensign below his name.
#6
Posted 28 December 2005 - 13:52
http://www.velocetod...mber 05/P12.jpg
I was in Modena/Maranello this October and din't go. Even bought cheese in the area. Stoooopid me!
#7
Posted 28 December 2005 - 14:02
http://www.gafferspo.../autos/3427.php
#8
Posted 28 December 2005 - 17:09
The airscoop seems to be a very late before the race addition.
#9
Posted 28 December 2005 - 18:37
It's simply either a picture shot on orthochromatic film which would not have been sensitive to some of the colours in the Union flag or it's a black-and-white rendition of a colour original which has not read the colours in the Union flag correctly. I think that emblem is just the normal Union Jack. British, don'tcherknow...
DCN
#10
Posted 28 December 2005 - 18:50
#11
Posted 28 December 2005 - 19:00
BTW, am I imagining it or does Jcbc3's first photo show a Union Jack flying on a pole to the left of Stirling's name? It seems to me that all the design changes (that and both Italaian flags being replaced by one stylized along the scoop) seem to be connected to a different bonnet with longer intake scoop...
#12
Posted 28 December 2005 - 20:18
Did Stirling do any 'shakedown' tests before practice for the race?
Was the car exhibited anywhere or given a photocall before the race?
Wasn't the car also entered for Indy subsequent to the Monza race? In which case some of the static photos might relate to then or to the time between the two races.
Pity the poor historian! or conscientious model maker for that matter!
#13
Posted 28 December 2005 - 20:57
Another possibility is that the flag is associated with Eldorado, which was an Italian ice cream manufacturer of the time.
Another source might be the Monza histories, none of which I have . I've attached a set of cover thumbs of the histories I know of.
#14
Posted 28 December 2005 - 21:22
For Monza the liveries were:
1. Initial testing: Pirellis, Borranis, no fin, cockpit offset to the right, two vertical stripes in the colors of the Italian flag.
2. First practice for the 500: Halibrands, Firestones, fin, crossed flags between the cowboy image and the hood bulge, which had a narrow vertical slit upfront, no decal under SM's name, 3500GT rear view mirror.
3. Next practice session: crossed flags are gone, the slit has been opened up to a regular air intake [like a 250F, only offset to the left in this case], 3500GT mirror replaced by a racing version.
4. Raceday: two stripes on the sides of the air intake, Union Jack under SM's name, El Dorado logo on the windshield support area.
WINO
#15
Posted 29 December 2005 - 00:06
http://www.britishpathe.com/
and search for "Monza", you will come up with (amongst other things), "Moss's Narrow Escape". There are stills and video, most of it on the Maserati. In a closeup, there is no sign of a flag under his name (that film taken in practice?)
Vince Howlett, Victoria, B.C., Canada
#16
Posted 29 December 2005 - 00:18
Vince H.
#17
Posted 29 December 2005 - 08:42
#18
Posted 29 December 2005 - 09:17
I think the picture of the car after the crash says it all, the flag is a Union Jack and you would assume the livery to be the same on the otherside of the car.
It is interesting in the film that when they wheel the car out to the grid it has no stripes on the air scoop, yet it has in the race, I guess this would be footage from practice that has been spliced in.
also the stripes seem to fade to white towards the back, this you can see in my original picture and the one from the film.
#19
Posted 29 December 2005 - 09:50
I have feeling that there was a regulation which actually prohibited cameras during races, which wasn't rescinded until the early 80s?
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#20
Posted 21 November 2014 - 11:26
Hello everybody!
Do you have pictures "copyrights free" to publish about Maserati Eldorado?
We are working about a dedicated website of the car:
http://www.automotiv...ado-sn4203.html
info@automotivemasterpieces.com
Thanks in advance for your cooperation.
Sandro
#22
Posted 24 November 2014 - 21:11
Can we publish the pictures in the dedicated website on AUTOMOTIVEMASTERPIECES?
If yes, would you like your name as copyright? Or nothing.
Sandro
sandro.binelli@automotivemasterpieces.com
#23
Posted 25 November 2014 - 20:23
#24
Posted 25 November 2014 - 21:31
Haven't figured how to reply 'with quote' but no problem putting up the pictures on the website!
It's working for me now, but wasn't earlier in the day. Click on the light gray "Quote" field at the lower right of the post you want to quote, and theoretically, it will be generated and displayed in the "Reply to this topic" field. You can then respond with the full quote, or edit as desired.
#25
Posted 28 November 2014 - 19:38
It's working for me now, but wasn't earlier in the day. Click on the light gray "Quote" field at the lower right of the post you want to quote, and theoretically, it will be generated and displayed in the "Reply to this topic" field. You can then respond with the full quote, or edit as desired.
I think I've got it right, big fingers, old fart and an iPad!
Edited by Cappo, 28 November 2014 - 19:39.
#26
Posted 28 November 2014 - 19:46
Theoretically, maybe. In practice, nothing.
#27
Posted 28 November 2014 - 20:47
Detail snapped at Goodwood
#28
Posted 28 November 2014 - 20:58
Hello everybody!
Do you have pictures "copyrights free" to publish about Maserati Eldorado?
We are working about a dedicated website of the car:
http://www.automotiv...ado-sn4203.html
info@automotivemasterpieces.com
Thanks in advance for your cooperation.
Sandro
Sandro,
I had a look at your website page of the car and I noticed you listed where/when the car was entered for a race or festival.
I can confirm that the car has also been at the Goodwood Festival of Speed in 1998. I do have photographic approval of it that I have seen the car over there that year. But the picture I made is just like the weather of that year: Bad.......
But it was there in 1998: 100% sure.
Regards,
Henri
#29
Posted 01 December 2014 - 22:18
We'll update the website.
My best.
Sandro