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#5101 werks prototype

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Posted 02 June 2010 - 00:29

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Theo Page's P68 in a slightly different context.

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#5102 werks prototype

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Posted 02 June 2010 - 11:26

Citro├źn ZX Raid by unknown artist.

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I will offer up a guess for the above. (Fully aware that it is likely wrong........however) 'Kral Vaclav' or 'Vaclav Kral' correct order of pronunciation??

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Skoda 1100 GT 1970 By Kral Vaclav (Known as the 'Balaclava')

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#5103 macoran

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Posted 02 June 2010 - 16:40

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Theo Page's P68 in a slightly different context.

I find the caption very iffy


#5104 werks prototype

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Posted 02 June 2010 - 18:22

The greater body of the text does attempt to qualify the claim.

Here is a snippet

"In 1968 Bailey (Len) was commisioned by Ford to develop the F3L. Later renamed the P68 Sports Prototype, this was to form a research platform for the Cosworth DFV 3-Litre engine which went on to establish such an enviable reputation on the world's race tracks"



Mike Taylor (Chapter) Non-Starters.

Here is the accompanying caption in full Marc.
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#5105 macoran

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Posted 02 June 2010 - 19:35

The greater body of the text does attempt to qualify the claim.

Here is a snippet


Mike Taylor (Chapter) Non-Starters.

Here is the accompanying caption in full Marc.
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As you say..... the text does attempt to qualify the claim........

The DFV powered Lotus 49 was already running rings around every other F1 car in sight, .... in 1967.....so the P68 being designed to develop it ?
The writer had probably heard the bell toll somewhere, but never got the ring of the true story.

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Posted 02 June 2010 - 20:04

AAC 815 by Betti

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Posted 02 June 2010 - 20:11

AAC 815 by Betti

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That is great !! any chance of taking a larger sized scan ?
History !! The first Ferrari !

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#5108 werks prototype

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Posted 02 June 2010 - 21:22

As you say..... the text does attempt to qualify the claim........

The DFV powered Lotus 49 was already running rings around every other F1 car in sight, .... in 1967.....so the P68 being designed to develop it ?
The writer had probably heard the bell toll somewhere, but never got the ring of the true story.


Yep :up: I think the key phrases here though are perhaps "test platform" and "development". I believe the engine went through quite a development cycle? With there being three I think variations? 1967 405 Bhp, 9000Rpm DFV, then 405 Bhp 10250Rpm DFV and then the 480 Bhp 11000Rpm version of the DFV? Someone out there will know. Maybe the P68 was the mule for this particular Cosworth engine development cycle.

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#5109 macoran

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Posted 02 June 2010 - 21:31

Best I could do from a rather "newspaper quality" print of Franco Rosso's
Lancia Beta Monte Carlo
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Posted 02 June 2010 - 21:35

Hot Italian town hatchback runabout
Autobianchi 112
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by Bruno Betti

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Posted 02 June 2010 - 22:03

Hot Italian town hatchback runabout
Autobianchi 112
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by Bruno Betti


That is great :up: I particulary like the cut through the floor.

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Posted 03 June 2010 - 14:35

That is great :up: I particulary like the cut through the floor.



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#5113 alansart

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Posted 03 June 2010 - 16:12

It's a tad big!!!

#5114 macoran

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Posted 03 June 2010 - 19:33

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I like the artwork, but it is a large thumbnail !!! innit?

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Posted 03 June 2010 - 19:40

Mazda RX7
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Factory publicity artwork, Yoshihiro Inomoto, Makoto Ouchi or A.N.Other ?
any thoughts ?

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Posted 03 June 2010 - 20:09

I like the artwork, but it is a large thumbnail !!! innit?

Even worse when it's repeated in a quote :rolleyes: :rolleyes: :rolleyes:

#5117 Tony Matthews

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Posted 03 June 2010 - 20:38

Mazda RX7
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Factory publicity artwork, Yoshihiro Inomoto, Makoto Ouchi or A.N.Other ?
any thoughts ?

My money is on Inomoto!

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Posted 04 June 2010 - 02:06

My money is on Inomoto!


It was so identified where I first found it.

We have seen these two before, but they were together - Dallara 392 Mugen and 392 Opel Spiess

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Posted 04 June 2010 - 05:32

already seen page 109 but now in a larger size:the 2 simca cg by Robert Roux
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Posted 04 June 2010 - 23:45

Even worse when it's repeated in a quote :rolleyes: :rolleyes: :rolleyes:

If I had wanted to be serious, I would have thumbnailed it!!
So it's both feet in a knee deep ?

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Posted 04 June 2010 - 23:55

Alpine GTA V6 Turbo by unknown artist.
From the web.

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#5122 Tony Matthews

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Posted 05 June 2010 - 06:12

Alpine GTA V6 Turbo by unknown artist.
From the web.

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That looks like ETAI, does it not?

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Posted 05 June 2010 - 11:51

For the Land Speed Record section of the Index
George Eyston's Thunderbolt by Max Millar
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Posted 05 June 2010 - 12:36

For the tiny car section...

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Two web finds. No artist signature, propably factory illustrations.
That's propably one of the biggest possible opposites of a LSR vehicle. :drunk:

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Posted 05 June 2010 - 12:50

And anotherone:

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Who's the artist?

#5126 macoran

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Posted 05 June 2010 - 12:58

And anotherone:

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Who's the artist?

see post 5068

#5127 Duc-Man

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Posted 05 June 2010 - 13:24

I missed that one somehow, sorry.

Two other web finds that I didn't find in the index:
Lotus Elise Mk.I without signature.
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And Sir Malcom Campbell's 1935 Blubird. Also without signature.
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Okay that is more a leftaway than a cutaway...

#5128 Tony Matthews

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Posted 05 June 2010 - 14:57

see post 5068

It's all getting a bit nebulas, innit?

#5129 werks prototype

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Posted 05 June 2010 - 15:04

For the Land Speed Record section of the Index
George Eyston's Thunderbolt by Max Millar
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Brilliant! :up: I still have about six or seven record cars to submit. (I put together a scrap book years ago/ butchered a book in the process though). I need to get back to the old scanner soon. It is a bloody labour though isn't it. :lol: A labour of love though. At this point I am able to just admire Ibsens list for what it is. A huge resource of information. Incredible effort.

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Posted 05 June 2010 - 15:22

I did not see this 4-wheel drive BRM by James Allington on the page 120 index. From the October, 1964 Car & Driver. Apologies if it is a repeat.

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Posted 05 June 2010 - 15:53

Reminds me at the new Nissan GTR. Just the other way around... :drunk: Cutaway car

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Posted 05 June 2010 - 15:53

Alpine A310 V6 by E.T.A.I France.
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Posted 05 June 2010 - 16:37

I did not see this 4-wheel drive BRM by James Allington on the page 120 index.

There is a Brian Hatton on page 64

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Posted 05 June 2010 - 17:18

I did not see this 4-wheel drive BRM by James Allington on the page 120 index. From the October, 1964 Car & Driver. Apologies if it is a repeat.

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That is beautiful.

#5135 Tony Matthews

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Posted 05 June 2010 - 18:34

I did not see this 4-wheel drive BRM by James Allington on the page 120 index. From the October, 1964 Car & Driver. Apologies if it is a repeat.

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Stippling by me!

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Posted 05 June 2010 - 21:41

Stippling by me!


I hadn't spotted that :)


#5137 macoran

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Posted 05 June 2010 - 21:46

I hadn't spotted that :)

brilliant !!!!!

#5138 werks prototype

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Posted 05 June 2010 - 22:22

Stippling by me!


Makes it even more significant!!!!

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Posted 05 June 2010 - 22:42

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Porsche 911 Turbo 3.3 Coupe US Version 1988. By Technical Art.

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#5140 Tony Matthews

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Posted 05 June 2010 - 22:43

I hadn't spotted that :)

Well, it's a bit naive, Alan, but I was still little, and experimenting.

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Posted 05 June 2010 - 22:44

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Jensen C-V8 'Incorporated FF Four-wheel-drive system'. By S.E.Porter.

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Posted 05 June 2010 - 22:46

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Ford 'crossflow' Kent bowl-in-crown unit. 1967 engine. By Theo Page.

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Posted 05 June 2010 - 22:54

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Camper Van by 'D Waugh' (I couldn't resist. I am aware it "aint pretty")

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Posted 06 June 2010 - 03:46

Stippling by me!


Damn, now I am in awe. That stippling techinque was something that eluded me, mainly because I refused to mix ink into my pencil work. Somehow, making small dots with a pencil is pretty difficult ... rubbing carbon onto the surface without sliding friction and all. My worst specific section of an illustration was my only attempt at doing that, so someone who actually pulled that off always impressed me.
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Posted 06 June 2010 - 07:00

toyota mr2 by Yoshihiro Inomoto
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Posted 06 June 2010 - 15:46

Alpine A610 by E.T.A.I France.
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Posted 06 June 2010 - 16:03

There's a rather nice cutaway of the Alfa Romeo 8C-2900 "Whale" by Rens Biesma in the current (July 2010) issue of Classic and Sportscar (page 50), if anyone's interested.

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#5148 macoran

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Posted 06 June 2010 - 16:41

There's a rather nice cutaway of the Alfa Romeo 8C-2900 "Whale" by Rens Biesma in the current (July 2010) issue of Classic and Sportscar (page 50), if anyone's interested.

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You mean the one posted on page 46 ?

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Posted 06 June 2010 - 16:51

You mean the one posted on page 46 ?


Yes, now I've looked closely, it's the same drawing.

The magazine have removed the background, but it's definitely the same drawing.

His other (non-cutaway) drawings look pretty good, and the (brief) interview/feature is worth a read.

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Posted 06 June 2010 - 17:26

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Thank you Tom - I loved stippling, and as I have said before, I was quick, it looks like it takes forever, but practice helps! What I liked was that it could be used for different surfaces - you don't look at the tyre and think, wow, cast magnesium tyres! - similarly, the Ford-Cosworth cam covers don't look like rubber. Not to me, anyway. What you do have to look out for is the rogue dot - it can be unnoticeable at close quarters, in the heat of battle, but move back and squint and it sticks out like a whatsit. then it needs a tickle with a scalpel tip and a fresh new dot and Bob's your mother's brother.


Tony,
I just appreciate those things that I never mastered ... or took the time to master. Considering the dearth of actual demand for these illustrations over here, there were other priorities in life, I suppose.
The thing that always irked me about this specific process is that my sister, who really hadn't done much else with any art skills, did a couple of illustrations in all stipple, and it blew me away. She still has it on the wall in a bedroom in her house and it bothers me every time I see it. And, if I could get anything from her eventually, that would probably be what I would like.
To see her be able to do that first time around, and me being too stubborn to mix the media a bit to accomplish it, just signals a couple of things for me.
Oh, well.
Thanks for the example from the expert.
Tom West