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#5201 Tony Matthews

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Posted 12 June 2010 - 10:02

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Wow, I haven't seen that for a while! Marc, it's an 85C, not 87. They look odd without sponsor's logos all over them.



Edited by Tony Matthews, 12 June 2010 - 10:03.


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#5202 ibsenop

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Posted 12 June 2010 - 14:22

If anyone can identify the illustrator or subject of any of the three attached I would be appreciative. I am not certain where I found any of the images.

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thanks...


Already posted here!

March 85C by Tony Matthews - page 29 posted by Macoram
Ferrari Dino 246 F1 1958 by John Marsden - page 26 posted by Macca and page 115 posted by Werks Prototype
Midget with Offenhauser engine by David Kimble - page 115 posted by Werks Prototype



#5203 ABG

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Posted 12 June 2010 - 15:15

Already posted here!

March 85C by Tony Matthews - page 29 posted by Macoram
Ferrari Dino 246 F1 1958 by John Marsden - page 26 posted by Macca and page 115 posted by Werks Prototype
Midget with Offenhauser engine by David Kimble - page 115 posted by Werks Prototype



Just curious. Does anyone else find the exhaust on the Ferrari 246 horribly wrong? Perhaps it's not worth mentioning.

#5204 Duc-Man

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Posted 12 June 2010 - 15:41

The line of the pipe along the sides looks right but the header... :confused:

Webfind of another Dino 246 F1:
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Not sure if it's been posted before.
Who is the artist on this one?

#5205 ibsenop

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Posted 12 June 2010 - 16:20

The line of the pipe along the sides looks right but the header... :confused:

Webfind of another Dino 246 F1:
Not sure if it's been posted before.
Who is the artist on this one?



Ferrari Dino 246 F1 1958 by Giovanni Cavara - page 52 without red background

#5206 Tom Johnson

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Posted 12 June 2010 - 17:44

The line of the pipe along the sides looks right but the header... :confused:

Webfind of another Dino 246 F1:
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Not sure if it's been posted before.
Who is the artist on this one?


Look at the front upper A arms and where they connect to the brake drums. The RH side is right but LH side is wrong.


#5207 Tony Matthews

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Posted 12 June 2010 - 20:44

Just curious. Does anyone else find the exhaust on the Ferrari 246 horribly wrong? Perhaps it's not worth mentioning.

Possible, but not probable - well noticed, ABG!

#5208 Tony Matthews

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Posted 12 June 2010 - 20:46

Look at the front upper A arms and where they connect to the brake drums. The RH side is right but LH side is wrong.

Hi Tom, nice to see you again! You are right, the drawing is - er - wrong.

#5209 simplebrother

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Posted 12 June 2010 - 23:32

Already posted here!

March 85C by Tony Matthews - page 29 posted by Macoram
Ferrari Dino 246 F1 1958 by John Marsden - page 26 posted by Macca and page 115 posted by Werks Prototype
Midget with Offenhauser engine by David Kimble - page 115 posted by Werks Prototype


Thanks all...

#5210 macoran

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Posted 13 June 2010 - 01:12

If anyone can identify the illustrator or subject of any of the three attached I would be appreciative. I am not certain where I found any of the images.

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thanks...

There is something ridiculous going on here !!! How in hell can a Tony Matthews drawing be ordered removed by anyone other than Tony Matthews ??
The rest I couldn't care bees knees, something sucks at Image Shack........who is taking the till ?......................

Edited by macoran, 13 June 2010 - 01:14.


#5211 werks prototype

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Posted 13 June 2010 - 01:15

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Centaurus 'The Mighty' By Max Millar

#5212 werks prototype

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Posted 13 June 2010 - 01:18

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1992 BMW 740iL By 'Technical Art' (Thanks simplebrother)

Edited by werks prototype, 13 June 2010 - 20:29.


#5213 werks prototype

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Posted 13 June 2010 - 01:20

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Reliant 'Commercial Chassis' with Austin 747cc Side Valve engine. Illustration by 'Reliant Engineering'

#5214 simplebrother

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Posted 13 June 2010 - 01:34

There is something ridiculous going on here !!! How in hell can a Tony Matthews drawing be ordered removed by anyone other than Tony Matthews ??
The rest I couldn't care bees knees, something sucks at Image Shack........who is taking the till ?......................


My fault - since they were already posted elsewhere in the thread I removed them from my Image Shack pictures - I did not realize that would cause the link in this thread to post as invalid. I assumed it would just become inactive as other links sometimes are - you click on it and either nothing happens or the site then tells you the page cannot be found.


#5215 simplebrother

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Posted 13 June 2010 - 06:01

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1992 BMW 740iL In house illustration


A couple of very similar versions with sharper detail by Technical Art...

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#5216 Tony Matthews

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Posted 13 June 2010 - 08:20

My fault - since they were already posted elsewhere in the thread I removed them from my Image Shack pictures - I did not realize that would cause the link in this thread to post as invalid. I assumed it would just become inactive as other links sometimes are - you click on it and either nothing happens or the site then tells you the page cannot be found.

It was quite exciting for a moment!

I disappointed myself by posting that I hadn't seen the March 85C cutaway for several decades, or similar - only to learn that it has been posted on this thread relatively recently! What am I like? In fact, it looks a lot better than I remember it, it became the property of March Engineering along with the March-Buick 85G and they were hung together in the ME reception. It was the 85G that Robin Herd gave away to someone - a member of a team running an 85G - who just happened to mention that he liked it. I've tried this, going around liking things, so far no-one has given me anything! I wonder where it is now, along with the 85C.

I still think it would have looked better in sponsor's clothes, but there you go - ME got what they wanted, and I got paid, thank you very much.

#5217 macoran

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Posted 13 June 2010 - 17:53

something sucks at Image Shack........who is taking the till ?......................

Sorry Image Shack I apologize !!!

#5218 werks prototype

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Posted 13 June 2010 - 20:18

A couple of very similar versions with sharper detail by Technical Art...


Your right! I'll go out on a limb then, and ID the version I posted above to also be a technical art. :up: This must mean 'Porsche-like' that they probably produced multiple variations of the view-point etc, with minor tweaks. So there should be an entire series.

Edited by werks prototype, 13 June 2010 - 20:19.


#5219 werks prototype

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Posted 13 June 2010 - 20:24

The following three are perhaps not the greatest quality, but for reference only, three very distinct charmers. The Trabant, the DAF 600 and the IMP.

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1964 Trabant 601 By F.Hompil



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#5220 werks prototype

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Posted 13 June 2010 - 20:25

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1958 DAF 600 By Charles Burns

#5221 werks prototype

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Posted 13 June 2010 - 20:27

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IMP By unbeknownst to me

#5222 ibsenop

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Posted 13 June 2010 - 20:59

Hillman IMP engine and gearbox cutaway by Bennett.

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#5223 macoran

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Posted 13 June 2010 - 23:38

Fiat 8V 1952 by Giovani Cavara (?)

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TNF Cutaway Index - updated - page 130 - post 5171

Yes Ibsen, Cavara...but in his book Ai Raggi X it is printed nose to the left

#5224 Tony Matthews

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Posted 14 June 2010 - 07:01

Yes Ibsen, Cavara...but in his book Ai Raggi X it is printed nose to the left

And that is why the accelerator is left of the brake and clutch pedals!

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Posted 14 June 2010 - 13:34

Hello, I founded this Bugatti Type 53 (1932) from Yosihiro Inomoto in a '84 Road & Track.

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#5226 werks prototype

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Posted 14 June 2010 - 16:07

It's great. :up: But, I can't help thinking the use of the Airbrush here makes it difficult (perhaps just for me) to differentiate properly between any different metal types. It is as if the Airbrush has extracted all the character from a nice solid under drawing. Good stuff though.

#5227 werks prototype

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Posted 14 June 2010 - 17:21

Not a cutaway, but a longitudinal section of the record breaking Fiat Type-12 as driven by Arthur Duray. Powered by a 28.35-litre S76 overhead camshaft 'airship' engine. :eek:

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Fiat Type-12 record car. Longitudinal section.

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#5228 NPP

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Posted 14 June 2010 - 18:35

It's great. :up: But, I can't help thinking the use of the Airbrush here makes it difficult (perhaps just for me) to differentiate properly between any different metal types. It is as if the Airbrush has extracted all the character from a nice solid under drawing. Good stuff though.


Yes, I quite agree. Particularly for the non-specialist like me this makes it much harder to try to understand the cutaway.

#5229 werks prototype

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Posted 15 June 2010 - 16:18

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1950 BMW V8 Left. 1990 BMW V8 Right.

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Mercedes-Benz W25B Independent front suspension

#5230 werks prototype

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Posted 15 June 2010 - 16:20

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Bugatti-King U-16 Engine (Not a cutaway)

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Posted 15 June 2010 - 16:25

Horton project "Aircar" roadable car and airplane concept
Magazine Science & Mechanics, Drawing by Douglas Rolfe
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Edited by Motocar, 15 June 2010 - 18:40.


#5232 werks prototype

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Posted 15 June 2010 - 16:36

Wow :eek: What the hell is that!

#5233 Motocar

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Posted 15 June 2010 - 16:42

McLaren frontal duct, design detail, drawing by web Scarbs F1 Tech
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#5234 ibsenop

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Posted 15 June 2010 - 19:13

Corvette GTP (Lola T710) by Vic Berris.

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TNF Cutaway Index - updated - page 130 - post 5171

Edited by ibsenop, 15 June 2010 - 19:18.


#5235 werks prototype

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Posted 15 June 2010 - 21:23

Corvette GTP (Lola T710) by Vic Berris.

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That's a shock. That must definitely be one of his later works. :up:

#5236 werks prototype

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Posted 15 June 2010 - 21:37

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Napier Dagger By James Clark. Drawn in 1939.

#5237 werks prototype

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Posted 15 June 2010 - 21:41

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Green Monster. Art Arfons 17,500hp record car. Engine, General Electric J79 turbo-jet power unit with multi-stage afterburner. 15000lb thrust.

#5238 werks prototype

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Posted 15 June 2010 - 21:44

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General Electric J47 'Spirit of America'. The Craig Breedlove record car. Drawn by William Moore.

Edited by werks prototype, 07 July 2010 - 16:41.


#5239 werks prototype

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Posted 16 June 2010 - 16:27

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A bit of a modern 'shiny' work. Renault Sport Spider. By unknown. Brinn? Brenn? Brunn?

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#5240 macoran

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Posted 16 June 2010 - 22:19

Tony Vanderwell's Thinwall Special ...........the Green Ferrari
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by Lawrence "Laurie" Watts

I know a photograph taken of the page from the book "Watts my Line" has been posted previously.

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Posted 17 June 2010 - 08:13

Tony Vanderwell's Thinwall Special ...........the Green Ferrari
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by Lawrence "Laurie" Watts

I know a photograph taken of the page from the book "Watts my Line" has been posted previously.

This exquisite illustration encompasses both the tech and the artistic know how a good cutaway must have, and IMO it exudes an overall warmness most cutaways around simply ignore. A true classic artwork. Many tks Macoran

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Posted 18 June 2010 - 11:42

I have checked my Motor files.
Articles by the Motor staff ended with a normal ful stop.
Articles by contributing writers, among them Johnny Lurani, Guiseppe Busso who contributed many Alfa articles
ended with the "M in the square" (a large full stop)
I think it was a way Motor used to signal that, even though it was not an article written by their own staff,
they held the copyright to the article.


I finally found the original article. It's in Motor Magazine, 2nd of March, 1968. I asked a seller of old car magazines on ebay and he had it - bingo :clap: But without your specialist help on what "M" stands for, I would not have known where to search. Thanks for that!

#5243 ibsenop

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Posted 18 June 2010 - 16:23

Ferrari 126 C2 cutaway by Bruno Betti.

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#5244 werks prototype

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Posted 18 June 2010 - 16:27

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Hercules XVI. Drawn by James Clark

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Posted 18 June 2010 - 16:28

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Sunbeam 'Seagrave' Matabele

#5246 werks prototype

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Posted 18 June 2010 - 16:31

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Hamilcar. Drawn by James Clark (There should be a light-weight Tank in there somewhere)

#5247 werks prototype

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Posted 18 June 2010 - 16:33

Ferrari 126 C2 cutaway by Bruno Betti.

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:up: beautiful stuff!


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Posted 18 June 2010 - 19:31

Ferrari 375 F1 - 1951 (Ruoteclassiche, 2007 november):

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Edited by sundance76, 10 October 2012 - 13:41.


#5249 macoran

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Posted 18 June 2010 - 20:36

Thrust LSR by Lawrence Watts, with the two page Motor colour spread as inset.............now to find the issue it was in !!!
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#5250 macoran

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Posted 18 June 2010 - 20:37

I finally found the original article. It's in Motor Magazine, 2nd of March, 1968. I asked a seller of old car magazines on ebay and he had it - bingo :clap: But without your specialist help on what "M" stands for, I would not have known where to search. Thanks for that!

:up: We'll be seeing some proper scans of that article soon then ?