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#5501 werks prototype

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Posted 13 July 2010 - 15:58

Hi Guys,
I have only just discovered this forum and I am amazed at the amount of interest in this artform. I am delighted to see heroes of mine ie David Matthews are amongst the contributors even if he did think I was deceased!
The reason I have replied to this page is because the XJ6 (XJ40) cutaway is one of mine, some kind person has taken the trouble to remove my name from the drawing. The engine cutaways would have been drawn by the Jaguar Technical Illustration Department which was closed approx ten years ago.


:up: great stuff! Welcome aboard. Your illustration of the XJ6 (XJ40) was also published, in this instance in the 'Crowood Autoclassics, Jaguar XJ Series, The Complete Story', book, page 127. Above Jaguar XJ6 (XJ40) now edited. :up:

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#5502 Tony Matthews

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Posted 13 July 2010 - 17:03

I am delighted to see heroes of mine ie David Matthews are amongst the contributors even if he did think I was deceased!

Hi SS, nice to see you on the thread, good thing it was that rascal David Matthews (no relation) who had you prematurely deceased, and not me!

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Posted 14 July 2010 - 08:29

Hi SS, nice to see you on the thread, good thing it was that rascal David Matthews (no relation) who had you prematurely deceased, and not me!

Oops well thats a good start!!!
Still have your print of the D Type also the 250 GTO Ferrari jigsaw.

#5504 Tony Matthews

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Posted 14 July 2010 - 09:56

Still have your print of the D Type also the 250 GTO Ferrari jigsaw.

If any proof was ever needed that Ferrari sells head and shoulders above other marques, that jigsaw is it! Unfortunately the production costs of the jigsaws versus flat prints meant that there was hardly any profit, but they still appear every now and then, but I haven't got a full set, I don't think, unless there's one lurking in the attic! How's the painting going - is it automotive, or more 'normal' subjects? Have you checked the 'Art' thread yet? I will PM you soon, all the best.

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Posted 14 July 2010 - 11:17

Ferrari 412 T1 1994 cutaway by Bruno Betti

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TNF Cutaway Index - updated - page 130 - post 5171

New section - "Links" - at the end of the index.

hi... where is the photo?!? i can not see... :confused:

#5506 Tony Matthews

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Posted 14 July 2010 - 11:22

hi... where is the photo?!? i can not see... :confused:

Weird! Perhaps it was The Emperor's New Ferrari...

#5507 werks prototype

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Posted 14 July 2010 - 18:12

Some fairly low-res Lotus bits and bobs!

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Lotus 910 Engine.

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Renault UN1 16 Transmission The Lotus Esprit X180 Gearbox.

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Garrett T3 Turbo Section Lotus Turbo.

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Garrett AiResearch T3 Turbocharger Lotus Turbo.



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Posted 14 July 2010 - 19:41

If any proof was ever needed that Ferrari sells head and shoulders above other marques, that jigsaw is it! Unfortunately the production costs of the jigsaws versus flat prints meant that there was hardly any profit, but they still appear every now and then, but I haven't got a full set, I don't think, unless there's one lurking in the attic! How's the painting going - is it automotive, or more 'normal' subjects? Have you checked the 'Art' thread yet? I will PM you soon, all the best.

The jigsaw is still in its wrapping, love the artwork to bits.
I gave up the day job at Jaguar eight years ago to concentrate on painting, it is mainly cars.
Along with several other artists Historic Car Art will be showing our work at the Silverstone Classic next weekend.
I have just received the H&H Auctions catalogue for their sale on July 21st and I noticed there is a cutaway drawing lot 520 of the Brabham BT34 if anyone is interested in bidding.

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Posted 14 July 2010 - 22:12

Hi all,
Everything going well over here, and the "boss" sends her regards.

A Ferrari, I haven;t had time to ID the model yet, but I have checked the Cavara book "Ai Raggi X"
and it is not in there, then, ........it doesn't really look very Cavara; maybe one of you can ID the artist.....and the model.
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Posted 14 July 2010 - 22:30

Hi all,
Everything going well over here, and the "boss" sends her regards.

A Ferrari, I haven;t had time to ID the model yet, but I have checked the Cavara book "Ai Raggi X"
and it is not in there, then, ........it doesn't really look very Cavara; maybe one of you can ID the artist.....and the model.
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Is it a Monza variant, Gordon Bruce? Edit: (No, it doesn't look like a Gordon Bruce)

P.S Glad to hear the Boss is still in charge!

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Posted 14 July 2010 - 22:34

Is it a Monza variant, Gordon Bruce?

I find it a bit "too" detailed for a Gordon Bruce.
Personally I think it's this one the Scaglietti Spyder, or at least a 2 seater version

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this one , just that some details don't tally
http://worldtraveler...i_860_Monza.gif

Edited by macoran, 14 July 2010 - 22:48.


#5512 werks prototype

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Posted 14 July 2010 - 22:49

Hi all,
Everything going well over here, and the "boss" sends her regards.

A Ferrari, I haven;t had time to ID the model yet, but I have checked the Cavara book "Ai Raggi X"
and it is not in there, then, ........it doesn't really look very Cavara; maybe one of you can ID the artist.....and the model.
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I find it a bit "too" detailed for a Gordon Bruce.
Personally I think it's this one the Scaglietti Spyder, or at least a 2 seater version

http://en.wikipedia...._(Sinsheim).JPG


You are right about Gordon Bruce. It does seem to have a slightly different cooling solution a top the front though. Is it from a particular magazine? There will be someone out there who will nail it immediately!

EDIT: How about a Monza variant by La Tourette? Via Sports Cars Illustrated?

Edited by werks prototype, 14 July 2010 - 23:11.


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Posted 14 July 2010 - 23:14

EDIT: How about a Monza variant by La Tourette? Via Sports Car Illustrated?

Anything is possible, but I have never seen a Clarence LaTourette with the kind of shading (etchy) as on this drawing.
I'll dig it up again, and see what is printed on the verso side, it is from a magazine, yes.

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Posted 14 July 2010 - 23:25

Hi all,
Everything going well over here, and the "boss" sends her regards.

A Ferrari, I haven;t had time to ID the model yet, but I have checked the Cavara book "Ai Raggi X"
and it is not in there, then, ........it doesn't really look very Cavara; maybe one of you can ID the artist.....and the model.
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Ferrari 290-335 MM 1957 by Giovanni Cavara!

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#5515 macoran

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Posted 14 July 2010 - 23:38

Ferrari 290-335 MM 1957 by Giovanni Cavara!

:up: :up: :up: Well I'll be......the man with the hammer nailed it !!!

#5516 ibsenop

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Posted 14 July 2010 - 23:41

Ferrari 290-335 MM 1957 engine by Giovanni Cavara

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#5517 werks prototype

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Posted 14 July 2010 - 23:42

Ferrari 290-335 MM 1957 by Giovanni Cavara!


:rotfl: I have to laugh at the accuracy of my own guess!

#5518 werks prototype

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Posted 14 July 2010 - 23:45

Ferrari 290-335 MM 1957 engine by Giovanni Cavara

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:up: That is beautiful!

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Posted 15 July 2010 - 00:00

hi... where is the photo?!? i can not see... :confused:


Imageshack probably have some trouble.
They lost about 20 of my files.
I can not see them also.

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#5520 werks prototype

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Posted 15 July 2010 - 00:17

Imageshack probably have some trouble.
They lost about 20 of my files.
I can not see them also.


I saved a copy if it is any help?

#5521 ibsenop

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Posted 15 July 2010 - 00:25

I saved a copy if it is any help?


I have them all on my hard disk.
To be seen in the forum, I will have to upload and re-post them again, I guess.

Edited by ibsenop, 15 July 2010 - 00:30.


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Posted 15 July 2010 - 07:52

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The Ferrari 290MM was a twin cam car, this is four cam. The development of this was the rare 130/S56 with a four cam engine, so it could be that, but I'd say it was a 315MM. If it was a later 335S the bodywork doesn't match. Just a thought.

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#5523 werks prototype

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Posted 15 July 2010 - 13:44

The Ferrari 290MM was a twin cam car, this is four cam. The development of this was the rare 130/S56 with a four cam engine, so it could be that, but I'd say it was a 315MM. If it was a later 335S the bodywork doesn't match. Just a thought.

Steve


Thanks for the added insight :up:

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Posted 15 July 2010 - 14:02

The re-appearence, yet again in a different context, of the CAM 2 M16.
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McLaren M16C - Offy 159 Ci Turbo By Tom Fornander.

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Posted 15 July 2010 - 14:06

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Mickey Thompson 'Rebored' Buick Special V8.

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Posted 15 July 2010 - 14:12

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Alfa Romeo Type 512. Two-stage Roots-type blower kit. 1939.

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Posted 16 July 2010 - 00:30

Ferrari 290-335 MM 1957 by Giovanni Cavara!

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Ibsen, I knew it was a Cavara, but I could not find a copy to compare immediately to see. Always know that there are a few of you guys who will pull the correct information. Thanks.
Tom West

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Posted 16 July 2010 - 12:46

Gordini T52 1955-1956 by Theo Page
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Posted 16 July 2010 - 13:42

Perhaps a quarter turn to the right might clarify it.
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Posted 17 July 2010 - 06:36

lotus 72 by Bill Bennett
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#5531 Tony Matthews

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Posted 17 July 2010 - 07:41

Perhaps a quarter turn to the right might clarify it.
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Roger Lund

Actually, it needs to turn a bit more clockwise, but the only software that I have that allows small rotational adjustments won't accept the file, no matter what I do, but otherwise, Roger, you are right!

#5532 ibsenop

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Posted 17 July 2010 - 11:29

Toyota Celica GT Four by Bruno Betti

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#5533 Philip Whiteman

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Posted 17 July 2010 - 16:09

I am sure I have that Gordini drawing in one of my books somewhere – perhaps the Setright Grand Prix Car volume – but seeing it again provokes a couple of thoughts. Firstly, with that odd Watt-linkage suspension (one trailing arm at the top of the front upright, a leading arm at the bottom) the castor angle would have changed as the front wheels went over bumps or the car rolled while cornering. In fact, it looks like the angle would reduce on the outer wheel, effectively reducing the load on the steering as the car cornered faster – how weird would that feel?

Also, there are three universal joints in the steering column before it reaches what looks like a worm-and-peg steering box. There are then two further swivels in at the ends of the link between the drop arm and the centrally mounted arm upon which the track rods are articulated. Imagine all the slop in that lot.

Finally – and I'm not trying to do a hatchet job on a lovely looking and surely lovely sounding car – it only seems to have single ignition. That would be unusual for the period (1955/56, from memory) wouldn't it?

#5534 Tim Murray

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Posted 17 July 2010 - 16:33

We discussed the rather weird Gordini suspension (including John Bolster's driving impressions) a while back in the Nuts & Bolts thread - see this and subsequent posts:

http://forums.autosp...w...t&p=2335965

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Posted 17 July 2010 - 16:40

We discussed the rather weird Gordini suspension (including John Bolster's driving impressions) a while back in the Nuts & Bolts thread - see this and subsequent posts:

http://forums.autosp...w...t&p=2335965


Thanks, Tim: that answers my question about the castor/caster angle change!

#5536 werks prototype

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Posted 17 July 2010 - 19:45

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Healey 100 1952 prototype rolling chassis. By John Ferguson

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Healey 100 Bare chassis. By John Ferguson

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Healey 100 Engine. By John Ferguson

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Healey 1957 100-Six 117bhp 12-port engine. By John Ferguson

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Healey 100-Six, 117bhp, 12-port head 1958 with SU H6 Carburettors fitted. By John Ferguson

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Healey 3000 Body construction. By John Ferguson

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Healey 3000 engine 1959. With thermostatically controlled auxilliary carburettor. By John Ferguson

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Austin-Healey 3000 MKIII BMC 2.9 Litre engine. By John Ferguson

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Posted 17 July 2010 - 19:46

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Lotus 38. Ford publicity material.

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Rear suspension used in the Lotus 33 1963.

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Posted 17 July 2010 - 19:49

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Image of Vic Berris (centre) 'Eyeing-up' the next drawing, at the Lamborghini factory, with Gian Paolo Dallara on the right and mechanic/future Lamborghini development engineer Bob Wallace on the left.


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From Left John Marsden, David Hatchard and Tim Hall


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Max Millar


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Lysander I. 1938 Pen and wash. By Max Millar.


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Anson I. Production prototype (K6152) 1935 Pen and wash. By Max Millar.

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Posted 18 July 2010 - 10:23

Stunning!

Can I ask what the circular pattern upon the floor, above the signature is/or what it was used to construct?

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Posted 18 July 2010 - 10:43

The rear end of the Ferrari F300 - always nice to find something different to draw and/or paint, in this case the carbon gearbox support, and the 'periscope' exhaust.



thanks for the amazing post :) how far of full size is the scan?

#5541 Tony Matthews

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Posted 18 July 2010 - 11:26

Can I ask what the circular pattern upon the floor, above the signature is/or what it was used to construct?

The five-into-one collector immediately above it!

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Posted 18 July 2010 - 16:49

:up:

Thanks for the compliment! I've just realised that the post is about 15% larger than full-size, which is what I meant to post...

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...and that is about 10% smaller! Overall width of the LR tyre is 138mm.

Tony absolutely stunning SS

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Posted 18 July 2010 - 20:45

Ferrari 365 GT4 Berlinetta Boxer by Bruno Betti.

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Posted 19 July 2010 - 07:56

eagle weslake by T Page
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Posted 19 July 2010 - 13:40

The waste Clever, tree wheeler car, I unknow your designer. recently out of production
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Posted 19 July 2010 - 13:41

Good afternoon everyone. I have been reading your forum with growing interest over the last couple of months - fascinating. It's a pity that some pictures are blocked by ImageShack - not least Bruno Betti's Blower Bentley on p103. Is there any other way I can find it, please?

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Posted 19 July 2010 - 13:44

Another The Bond Bug tree wheeler car cutaway
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Good lock for all

#5548 MEI

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Posted 19 July 2010 - 14:33

By way of introduction and experiment I offer the following link.

url="http://img832.images.../vanwall2.jpg/"

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Posted 19 July 2010 - 16:06

By way of introduction and experiment I offer the following link.

url="http://img832.images.../vanwall2.jpg/"


From your brief comment, I am presuming that you are the artist here for the Vanwall. If so, I congratulate you and applaud your dramatic entrance into the group. How about a name to go with this so we can give you appropriate credit for your very nice work?
This is one of the great parts of this whole group, and I am a relative latecomer here; there are always new illustrations and new artists that pop up to add to the artform.
Thank-you for jumping in.
Tom West

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Posted 19 July 2010 - 16:23

From your brief comment, I am presuming that you are the artist here for the Vanwall. If so, I congratulate you and applaud your dramatic entrance into the group. How about a name to go with this so we can give you appropriate credit for your very nice work?
This is one of the great parts of this whole group, and I am a relative latecomer here; there are always new illustrations and new artists that pop up to add to the artform.
Thank-you for jumping in.
Tom West


Thanks for the comments but ... the original was by Lawrence Watts; my contribution was limited to quite a few hours on Photoshop tidying it up! Malcolm Inglis