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#6651 helioseism

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Posted 29 October 2010 - 21:14

Cooper Bobtail by Page.

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#6652 Bonde

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Posted 29 October 2010 - 23:20

Good evening (sort of night, really) gents,

Thought I'd just pop by to say 'hello'.

I must say that this thread has grown far beyond what I anticipated possible some 6655 posts ago...it now surely must be one, if not the most comprehensive repositories of vehicular cutaways on this planet of ours! And all perfectly book-kept by Ibsen!

With the racing season waning and the build season firming up, I hope to find some time in the not too distant future to join the fray again, perhaps with some mutual anoraksia with Peter E....

[edited because I'm soooo out of practise...]

Edited by Bonde, 29 October 2010 - 23:21.


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Posted 29 October 2010 - 23:25

Good evening (sort of night, really) gents,

Thought I'd just pop by to say 'hello'.

I must say that this thread has grown far beyond what I anticipated possible some 6655 posts ago...it now surely must be one, if not the most comprehensive repositories of vehicular cutaways on this planet of ours! And all perfectly book-kept by Ibsen!

With the racing season waning and the build season firming up, I hope to find some time in the not too distant future to join the fray again, perhaps with some mutual anoraksia with Peter E....

[edited because I'm soooo out of practise...]

Anders! which brick did you creep under from ?
pater familias !! we almost forgot who started this whole shebang !!!

#6654 PJGD

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Posted 30 October 2010 - 00:04

Not just a boring industrial diesel engine, this is the Maybach MD engine built under license by Bristol-Siddeley in the UK during the 1960's. Built in Vee and in-line formats, it was used for rail traction and marine applications. Its specifications would put some racing engines to shame. For instance: All gear drive up to the DOH Camshafts on each bank. Six [6] valves per cylinder. Central unit injector. Disc-webbed roller bearing crankshaft with end feed oil supply for the crank pins. Tunnel crankcase made from welded steel castings. Vee mounted turbocharger and vee-facing exhaust ports to capture the pulse energy.

Illustrator is unknown; this comes from a Bristol Siddeley sales brochure.

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Posted 30 October 2010 - 00:10

1955 HWM-Jaguar by Page.

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Posted 30 October 2010 - 00:25

"A car has a mid-engine when the motor is build in anywhere between the front and rear axles."

I can now think of an Oldsmobile Toronado as being mid-engined: what a relief. ;)


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Posted 30 October 2010 - 06:10

I never heard about that Bugatti plane so I had a look around on the web...


More on this site too.

Bugatti 100 racer link

I presume that the aircraft is still at Oshkosh. This part of the Bugatti story has always fascinated me (along with the Railcar). Now that would have made a great exhibit for "The Amazing Bugattis" at the Royal College of Art back in 1979. That was one of the very best "one make" exhibitions ever and received extensive coverage in the media at the time.


#6658 Tony Matthews

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Posted 30 October 2010 - 07:41

Anders! which brick did you creep under from ?
pater familias !! we almost forgot who started this whole shebang !!!

Aders. Anders. Anders? Anders? Anders! Anders!

Thanks to 'The Blues Brothers'

Edited by Tony Matthews, 30 October 2010 - 07:43.


#6659 Tony Matthews

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Posted 30 October 2010 - 07:56

Not just a boring industrial diesel engine, this is the Maybach MD engine built under license by Bristol-Siddeley in the UK during the 1960's. Built in Vee and in-line formats, it was used for rail traction and marine applications. Its specifications would put some racing engines to shame. For instance: All gear drive up to the DOH Camshafts on each bank. Six [6] valves per cylinder. Central unit injector. Disc-webbed roller bearing crankshaft with end feed oil supply for the crank pins. Tunnel crankcase made from welded steel castings. Vee mounted turbocharger and vee-facing exhaust ports to capture the pulse energy.

Illustrator is unknown; this comes from a Bristol Siddeley sales brochure.

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Very interesting, PJGD, thanks. My only slightly negative comment about the cutaway is that I think there is too much perspective, but that is a personal view. Overall it has a very nice feel to it, and I'm relieved that the cuts have not been picked out in red - a particular bugbear of mine!

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#6660 Tony Matthews

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Posted 30 October 2010 - 07:59

"A car has a mid-engine when the motor is build in anywhere between the front and rear axles."

I can now think of an Oldsmobile Toronado as being mid-engined: what a relief.;)

Next time you pull up alongside a GT40, you can look the driver in the eye, curl your lip slightly and say - "So?"

Edited to say I misread 'an' for 'my', but if you do get a Toronado the rest stands!

Edited by Tony Matthews, 30 October 2010 - 16:43.


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Posted 30 October 2010 - 08:50

Good evening (sort of night, really) gents,

Thought I'd just pop by to say 'hello'.

I must say that this thread has grown far beyond what I anticipated possible some 6655 posts ago...it now surely must be one, if not the most comprehensive repositories of vehicular cutaways on this planet of ours! And all perfectly book-kept by Ibsen!

With the racing season waning and the build season firming up, I hope to find some time in the not too distant future to join the fray again, perhaps with some mutual anoraksia with Peter E....

[edited because I'm soooo out of practise...]


Thank you Bonde for starting this great thread....its a bit like Meccano Sets...you either understand or you don't!!! :clap:

My fav engine rendered by Mr Vic Berris for Autocar (copyright) stolen from the Donington Collection (oops!)

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#6662 Tony Matthews

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Posted 30 October 2010 - 09:32

Thank you Bonde for starting this great thread....its a bit like Meccano Sets...you either understand or you don't!!! :clap:

My fav engine rendered by Mr Vic Berris for Autocar (copyright) stolen from the Donington Collection (oops!)

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Meccano! Now you're talking! Nice DFV there, and an early one like Theo Page's version, as there is no quill-shaft vibration damper shown. This engine appeared at a time that I was not in a position to do a cutaway of it - anyway, enough were done! - but when I did the DFX (on spec), I featured the damper, a very interesting little bit of kit, and unlike later Ilmor dampers, I could understand how it worked!

#6663 werks prototype

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Posted 30 October 2010 - 12:19

Here is a mystery to me. According to the caption, this is a "Maserati Grand Prix Coupe" by Page, from High-Performance Cars 1954-55. I cannot find any photos of or information on such a car on the web, in my Maserati library, or on TNF. I assume it is a concept car that never got built. Does anyone have more information?

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It could have just been a 'one-off' bodywork variation. Someone (one of the experts) out there will know! Great series of posts by the way helioseism!

Edited by werks prototype, 30 October 2010 - 12:31.


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Posted 30 October 2010 - 12:22

Good evening (sort of night, really) gents,

Thought I'd just pop by to say 'hello'.

I must say that this thread has grown far beyond what I anticipated possible some 6655 posts ago...it now surely must be one, if not the most comprehensive repositories of vehicular cutaways on this planet of ours! And all perfectly book-kept by Ibsen!

With the racing season waning and the build season firming up, I hope to find some time in the not too distant future to join the fray again, perhaps with some mutual anoraksia with Peter E....

[edited because I'm soooo out of practise...]


:eek: The founding father!

#6665 werks prototype

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Posted 30 October 2010 - 12:30

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Ferrari 166. 1947, 1,903cc, 'cycle-wing' bodywork.
Drawing appears in a contemporary context in the book mentioned by Ibsen at post #5825, "Sports Racing Cars".

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Posted 30 October 2010 - 12:30

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Alfa Romeo Monza engine. Cresswell?


#6667 Tony Matthews

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Posted 30 October 2010 - 13:02

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Alfa Romeo Monza engine. Cresswell?

Yes, I think so. Interesting that he drew the carburetter float on full droop, I wonder if he went through the - "Well, there's no fuel in the float chamber, as I've cut half of it away, so do I draw the float as if there was fuel which might look odd, or do I let it dangle as there is no fuel... time for a cup of tea..." - process, or just did it. There are times when it is difficult to know what to do, I think I would have shown it as if floating. The intake to the same carb. looks a bit anatomical, like a Victorian illustration of the bowel. These are not critcisms, by the way.

#6668 werks prototype

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Posted 30 October 2010 - 14:12

Yes, I think so. Interesting that he drew the carburetter float on full droop, I wonder if he went through the - "Well, there's no fuel in the float chamber, as I've cut half of it away, so do I draw the float as if there was fuel which might look odd, or do I let it dangle as there is no fuel... time for a cup of tea..." - process, or just did it. There are times when it is difficult to know what to do, I think I would have shown it as if floating. The intake to the same carb. looks a bit anatomical, like a Victorian illustration of the bowel. These are not critcisms, by the way.


No, very interesting! It is the kind of insight really that only the likes of you can provide, in terms of the actual decision making behind these type of constructions. Regarding the "Victorian illustration of the bowel" I've lost count now of the number of non-automotive analogies that have been/are being drawn from the various cutaways that we have seen. I believe I'm one of the chief culprits! I see all sorts in them there cutaways!

#6669 Simon Hadfield

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Posted 30 October 2010 - 15:07

Cooper Monaco by Page.

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This is a Bobtail, the Monaco is a proper two seater. By the way I don't know if its been mentioned here before but there is a great article about the work of Rex Burnett in the latest issue of Rodder's Journal, with not only some of his printed cutaways but a stunning pencil layout sketch of a Bonneville roadster.

Edited by Simon Hadfield, 30 October 2010 - 15:08.


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Posted 30 October 2010 - 17:40

This is a Bobtail, the Monaco is a proper two seater.


Thanks! I corrected the post and the file name.

Edited by helioseism, 30 October 2010 - 19:17.


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Posted 30 October 2010 - 19:18

1955 MGA by Page.

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Posted 30 October 2010 - 22:13

a couple of Lancias I don't believe we have seen...
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Lancia Lambda - 1928 - unknown artist, attributed to Quattroruote

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Lancia Stratos 1974 - Mark Donovan

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Posted 30 October 2010 - 23:18

1991 McLaren "Albert" test mule by Mark Roberts. This car was based on an Ultima kit car, with a Chevrolet 7.5-Litre LS6 V8 engine, ZF 5DS-25 transaxle and carbon fiber brakes. It provided testing experience for the McLaren F1 supercar.

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Posted 30 October 2010 - 23:36

Jaguar XK120 engine by Ferguson.

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Posted 31 October 2010 - 03:42

Jaguar V-12 5.3 litre engine by Alex Sinclair.

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Posted 31 October 2010 - 04:10

Fred Frame dirt track racer by Kimble. Supercharged 168 CID bored & stroked straight-eight Duesenberg 91 engine, Ford transmission, Bugatti rear axle. The last Duesenberg to run at Indianapolis (1938, DNQ).

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Posted 31 October 2010 - 04:25

Miller 91 by La Tourette.


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Posted 31 October 2010 - 07:26


And here's a Alta 2.5L F1 enginecutaway courtesy of Max Millar
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Posted 31 October 2010 - 07:34


A few more, more sedate Bugattis
T40
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#6680 werks prototype

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Posted 31 October 2010 - 13:08

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MG PA Midget. By Max Millar.

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Posted 31 October 2010 - 13:08

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MG Y-Type chassis frame layout. Exploded view. Artist unknown.

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Posted 31 October 2010 - 13:08

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MG XPAG Engine cross-section. Artist unknown.

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Posted 31 October 2010 - 16:07

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Lagonda 4.5 liter v12 - 1938 - Roy Hayes

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Sunbeam Super Sports 3 liter - 1926 - Les Shaw

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Posted 31 October 2010 - 19:34

Offenhauser 255 CID engine by Dave Kimble.

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Posted 31 October 2010 - 19:53

1961 Cooper T54 Indianapolis. Artist unknown.

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Posted 31 October 2010 - 20:03

Novi V-8 engine by la Tourette.

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Miller 91 v-8 engine by la Tourette.


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Posted 31 October 2010 - 21:13

1958 Cooper Mk3 T45 by Page.

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Posted 31 October 2010 - 21:18

Blimey! More cutaways than you can shake a stick at...

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Posted 31 October 2010 - 21:55

Blimey! More cutaways than you can shake a stick at...


Was just thinking that, Tony ... only without the Blimey and a more inappropriate expletive in its place. Same thought, however.
Thanks for pulling all of this out of the archives, guys. Will have to complete some of those splices on scanned images that I have here, I guess, just in compensation.
Thanks for all the effort.
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Posted 31 October 2010 - 22:36

I'm still not sure that we have even scratched the surface of the number of automotive subjects rendered in this way Tom!. (Well, actually maybe a small dent has now appeared in said catalogue of works!).

Edited by werks prototype, 31 October 2010 - 22:44.


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Posted 31 October 2010 - 22:37

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Cosworth 6R4. By Terry Collins.

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Posted 31 October 2010 - 22:37

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The Lotus-Ford twin-cam. By J. Allington.

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Posted 31 October 2010 - 22:38

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Riley RM 1.5-litre engine. By Vic Berris.

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Posted 31 October 2010 - 22:40

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1966 Rolls Royce Silver Shadow - attributed to Orbis Publishing, but signed by NW Tarbath

#6696 werks prototype

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Posted 31 October 2010 - 22:54

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Posted 31 October 2010 - 23:27

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Mercedes Benz 38/250 SS - 1929 - Inkwell Studios

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Posted 31 October 2010 - 23:45

And here's a Alta 2.5L F1 enginecutaway courtesy of Max Millar
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I particularly like this - I don't know if the original was on tinted paper, or if it aquired the tint over time, but it looks great.

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Posted 01 November 2010 - 02:00

I think its because when I scanned it the scanner cover was not fully closed?? Mike

I particularly like this - I don't know if the original was on tinted paper, or if it aquired the tint over time, but it looks great.



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Posted 01 November 2010 - 04:31

1933 Alfa Romeo 8C 2300 Le Mans Winner (Nuvolari/Sommer) by Robert Roux.

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