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#7101 TWest

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Posted 05 December 2010 - 17:05

you know, you might just have a point there!
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I think that either versions can be driven by grog of some sort, so we will allow you the stretch of the Christmas Pirate legend. Wasn't Robin Hood supposedly stealing from the rich to give to the poor? Can Santa not also resort to such means with the huge increase in children to manage? That contorted line out of Pirates of the Caribbean about piracy being forgiven if an act of piracy causes good ... or some such thing.
Maybe the red and white was only to disguise his nefarious purpose as he is there sitting among all the treasures for a month before the big day, in stores and shopping malls around the world. Clause, and his minions could very well be pinching products instead of producing with indentured elves ... which is a bit racist if one considers it.
Nothing like a bit of cynicism and the holidays to create counterlegends.
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#7102 Mistron

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Posted 05 December 2010 - 17:31

Ah, a firm supporter of the Christmyth holidays!



#7103 Tony Matthews

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Posted 05 December 2010 - 17:44

If I thought for one moment that Father Christmas was on the same trip as Robin Hood, I'd put his reindeers in his sack and stuff the sack where the sun doesn't shine. Get down my chimney now, you fat thieving towrag!

Is towrag all one word? Dear Father Christmas, I would like 'The Dictionary of Historical Slang', as I have mislaid my copy.

#7104 ratkinso

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Posted 05 December 2010 - 17:53

If I thought for one moment that Father Christmas was on the same trip as Robin Hood, I'd put his reindeers in his sack and stuff the sack where the sun doesn't shine. Get down my chimney now, you fat thieving towrag!

Is towrag all one word? Dear Father Christmas, I would like 'The Dictionary of Historical Slang', as I have mislaid my copy.


I think you'll find it's toe-rag! Chambers def.: a beggar,tramp; generally a ruffian or rascal; a despicable person. [Prob. from the strips of rag used by tramps to wrap around their toes in place of socks.]

#7105 Tony Matthews

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Posted 05 December 2010 - 18:10

ratkinso, you are the complete opposite of a toe-rag, in fact, a gentleman and a scholar! I presumed that it had something to do with tow, un-picked rope, used with tar to caulk the wooden ships of our once-great Navy! You live and learn - at least, I try to do both...

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#7106 Mistron

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Posted 05 December 2010 - 18:19

oops, I appear to have sent the thread off couse somewhat!

I'll fetch the tar and feathers. least I can do...........

#7107 IrishMariner

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Posted 06 December 2010 - 02:23

From the Biglorryblog site, here are some cutaways:

(1) Allison Transmission with David Kimble Signature

(2) BMC/Leyland Van

(3) Vauxhall Viva Van & Truck

(4) Foden Gearbox

(5) DAF & Mercedes truck chassis

(6) 1970 Scammell

#7108 PLANE1

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Posted 06 December 2010 - 04:27

GOOD AFTERNOON FROM AUSTRALIA - I JUST WISH TO THANK THE MANY GREAT GUYS WHO HAVE DRAWN THESE HI TECH SCALE DRGS. - I LOVE THE SECTIONED ENGINES AS I AM RETD. AIRPLANE ENGINEER - WAS SURPRISED AND PLEASED TO FIND AIRPLANE ENGINES - I OPERATE A 67 MUSTANG 289 + BMW 1960 R 60 CLASSIC BIKE - IF I CAN ASSIST IN AVIATION ENGINEERING TYPE QUESTIONS IN ANY WAY - PLS DO NOT HESITATE TO ASK - AM PROBABLY IN THE WRONG HOLE HERE , BUT IT'S THE ONLY PLACE I COULD FIND TO COMMENT - MUCH OBLIGED J.C.

#7109 Duc-Man

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Posted 06 December 2010 - 09:13

From the Biglorryblog site, here are some cutaways:

(1) Allison Transmission with David Kimble Signature

(2) BMC/Leyland Van

(3) Vauxhall Viva Van & Truck

(4) Foden Gearbox

(5) DAF & Mercedes truck chassis

(6) 1970 Scammell


And there is also one of the Mercedes Actros

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Posted 06 December 2010 - 18:04

GOOD AFTERNOON FROM AUSTRALIA - I JUST WISH TO THANK THE MANY GREAT GUYS WHO HAVE DRAWN THESE HI TECH SCALE DRGS. - I LOVE THE SECTIONED ENGINES AS I AM RETD. AIRPLANE ENGINEER - WAS SURPRISED AND PLEASED TO FIND AIRPLANE ENGINES - I OPERATE A 67 MUSTANG 289 + BMW 1960 R 60 CLASSIC BIKE - IF I CAN ASSIST IN AVIATION ENGINEERING TYPE QUESTIONS IN ANY WAY - PLS DO NOT HESITATE TO ASK - AM PROBABLY IN THE WRONG HOLE HERE , BUT IT'S THE ONLY PLACE I COULD FIND TO COMMENT - MUCH OBLIGED J.C.



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Posted 06 December 2010 - 18:12

new to this forum, great forum and images . I am doing some research on the baker electric racers, trying to decifer an earlier post that lists the cutaways by car name it is something like "Profit with out honour NR 16 article by Cyril Posthumus Baker torpeto 1902 drawing by Brian Hattan" any help appreciated in locating this image, thanks bob

#7112 JoeKane

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Posted 06 December 2010 - 22:07

To TZBbob
Hi Bob,

As a long time lurker who had to figure out how to use the index I will try to assist you in finding the Baker info you seek. First off you must be logged in to use the wondeful index created and maintained by our good friend Ibsen . If you are viewing as a guest the page numbers are vastly different and going to page 115 will not get you where you want to go. So after you log in go to the top of the page and click next to the box with the current page number in it. This will open a drop down box into which you can type 115 for the page containing the Baker info you are looking for. By the way it is located in post #4577. As I recall there was a link to additional information about the car. Be sure to check the posts preceding and especially following post 4577 as there are probably comments and additional info that may be of interest to you.

Hope this helps. If not ask again and someone else from this great group will chime in. Oh and welcome aboard.

Joe Kane
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#7113 TWest

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Posted 06 December 2010 - 22:23

To TZBbob
Hi Bob,

As a long time lurker who had to figure out how to use the index I will try to assist you in finding the Baker info you seek. First off you must be logged in to use the wondeful index created and maintained by our good friend Ibsen . If you are viewing as a guest the page numbers are vastly different and going to page 115 will not get you where you want to go. So after you log in go to the top of the page and click next to the box with the current page number in it. This will open a drop down box into which you can type 115 for the page containing the Baker info you are looking for. By the way it is located in post #4577. As I recall there was a link to additional information about the car. Be sure to check the posts preceding and especially following post 4577 as there are probably comments and additional info that may be of interest to you.

Hope this helps. If not ask again and someone else from this great group will chime in. Oh and welcome aboard.

Joe Kane
Oracle, AZ, USA



Joe and Bob,
I saw Bob's note at the bottom of the page, and decided to check and see on it. Just looked it up and was going to reference 4577, came back to the request, and found that it had already been nicely answered. Thanks for doing that, Joe.
How are things in Oracle? You must be getting that rain storm that hit here last night by now.
Tom West

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Posted 06 December 2010 - 22:34

Ford Fiesta 1979 by unknown artist - page 178

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#7115 JoeKane

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Posted 06 December 2010 - 22:38

Hi Tom,

No rain, nor even prediction of any. Do have some high clouds this afternoon. Weather much warmer the past couple days. Drove with the top down all day yesterday. :cool:
Hope I was able to help Bob.
I really need to figure out how to add a signature line... I'm off to do so.
Cheers.
Joe Kane
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Edit - Hey that signature line thing works... and retroactively as well!

Edited by JoeKane, 06 December 2010 - 22:54.


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Posted 06 December 2010 - 23:09

Sneaking in, hoping nobody sees me, will have to atone for the sin of staying away so long.
Have called in the help of Bob Thatcher and Theo Page to back me up.

Bob’s Lancia-Ferrari D50

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and his Scarab

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Theo Page’s Hewland LG 500 gearbox

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and his Citroen DS engine

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Oh, and not to forget Pierre Inconnu’s Panhard Dyna Z

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Anyone have some tech stuff on the Panhard ? I am intrigued by all tubes and semi cylindrical chassis members I see.


edit to say the Dyna Z has already been posted on page 102, this image is just a bit larger

Edited by macoran, 07 December 2010 - 00:46.


#7117 fnqvmuch

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Posted 06 December 2010 - 23:19

Sneaking in, hoping nobody sees me, will have to atone for the sin of staying away so long.

Anyone have some tech stuff on the Panhard ? I am intrigued by all tubes and semi cylindrical chassis members I see.


i for one forgive you immediately, and will fwd panhard links asap, meanwhile - check out the exhaust, it may be structural ...

Edited by fnqvmuch, 06 December 2010 - 23:25.


#7118 Tony Matthews

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Posted 06 December 2010 - 23:55

Sneaking in, hoping nobody sees me...

Anyone seen macoran recently?

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Posted 07 December 2010 - 00:02

Looking at an old CD file from a while ago, I came across this. Apologies for file size, it is as downloaded. Copyright unknown.
Skoda 1100 twin cam sports.
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Posted 07 December 2010 - 09:57

A premiere for this thread: the first Holdens!

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Holden Commodore VN-series. No signature but I guess it's a Betti or did somebody else also cut through the windows?

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Holden Commodore VB-series. No signature and no idea. Anybody?
Webfind.

Edited by Duc-Man, 07 December 2010 - 10:03.


#7121 fnqvmuch

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Posted 07 December 2010 - 10:43

A premiere for this thread: the first Holdens!
Holden Commodore VN-series.
Holden Commodore VB-series. No signature and no idea. Anybody?
Webfind.


not the foggiest - critically - VB (love one) kinda squiggly (RIP Mr Squiggle, btw) but ok, if we must,
(just too damn close to home)
whereas the VN looks either narrow all over or at least in the wheel track - Anybody?

#7122 yasmin

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Posted 07 December 2010 - 11:21

The VN was drawn by a Holden 'in-house' designer, Brett Patterson.

Mot sure who drew the VB

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Posted 07 December 2010 - 22:49

Alfa Romeo V8 1500 Turbo F1 engine by Sergio Baratto (Not a cutaway)

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Posted 08 December 2010 - 02:33

for those of you who are in Toronto and interested in cutaway drawings, there's an exhibition for cutaway drawing artist - Tony Cairoli - this Sunday.

http://www.transport...m/OpenHouse.pdf

#7125 ibsenop

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Posted 08 December 2010 - 19:28

Rombo Magazine Concept F1 1982 by Paolo D'Alessio

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#7126 macoran

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Posted 08 December 2010 - 23:01

1963 Cooper.....T66 I think...Cooperphiles please correct me if I am wrong
by James Allington
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published in November 1962 Road & Track with a really lovely metallic blue background
which a scanner just can't do justice to

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Posted 08 December 2010 - 23:10

Rombo Magazine Concept F1 1982 by Paolo D'Alessio

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Thanks Ibsen, I remember Rombo for being very good at the following year's "concept cars"
especially when regulation changes were in the air.

editted to add the whotsit...er apostrophe

Edited by macoran, 08 December 2010 - 23:11.


#7128 simplebrother

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Posted 09 December 2010 - 04:43

1963 Cooper.....T66 I think...Cooperphiles please correct me if I am wrong
by James Allington
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published in November 1962 Road & Track with a really lovely metallic blue background
which a scanner just can't do justice to


I'm not a Cooperphile but I believe this is a T60 - actually the same one that is on page 172, post 6861, but at a different angle and without the background.

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Posted 09 December 2010 - 16:39

The VN was drawn by a Holden 'in-house' designer, Brett Patterson.

Mot sure who drew the VB


I'd look forward to some rally cars by Sergio Baratto, like Lancia Delta or Ford Escort RS Cosworth Martini (you can see small images of them on his site) or the Abarth 1000!!!!! :love: :love: :love:

#7130 ibsenop

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Posted 09 December 2010 - 22:27

Williams FW15C by Bruno Betti

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#7131 Tony Matthews

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Posted 10 December 2010 - 00:39

Williams FW15C by Bruno Betti

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There's a coincidence!

#7132 TWest

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Posted 10 December 2010 - 01:29

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There's a coincidence!


Yes, this is a real dog-eat-dog world in the cutaways business. Had someone buy a cutaway for a dealership on a funny car, then flipped it and traced it with rather large markers so it looked pretty crude. And, since he "drew" it, it was his art, naturally. Never said a word about it.
I also had some guy approach me when I was at Revell trying to get instruction sheet work. He was touting his work, samples of which had been sent. He was talking about how familiar he was with all of this stuff, as I could obviously see from the future funny car proposal that he had drawn. I asked if he had used something else to build it from, and he said that he had used photos ... and I said that I also presumed that he had used a previous drawing. He was composing an answer, when he sort of said under his breath ... Tom West ... wait, Tom West .. you're Tom West. I had done the cutaway that it was based on, so he just sort of rambled around in flustration, and we finally parted ways on things.
Yeah, dog-eat-dog ...
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Posted 10 December 2010 - 10:38

Posted Image.....This was at the start or finish of the" Sculptures by the Sea" 2010.

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Bondi Beach in the background.

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#7134 fnqvmuch

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Posted 10 December 2010 - 12:04

love this sort of thing - but most especially (oh, if someone could direct me to a better image of ...) this:
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1954, it said ...

Edited by fnqvmuch, 10 December 2010 - 12:05.


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Posted 10 December 2010 - 18:00

Something that goes along the same lines:the Opel CD concept at the second public presentation since 1969 at the Schloß Bensberg classics this year.
And before its restauration two years ago:
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Those three pictures were taken at the classic car restauration and storage building inside the Opel factory in Rüsselsheim. Excuse the low light.

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Posted 11 December 2010 - 15:13

Dodge Viper V10 engine by David Kimble

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#7137 ABG

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Posted 11 December 2010 - 15:16

Williams FW15C by Bruno Betti

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Are we sure this is an FW15C. Without the name and number on the car I would be far more inclined to see an FW14B than an FW15C. Look at the nose, front wings, brake ducts and rear body treatment. Given that it is an FW15 something and lacks the full complement of sponsor logos
could this be a pre season early development car?

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#7138 Tony Matthews

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Posted 11 December 2010 - 15:49

You may be right - I haven't got time to dig out the necessary files, but my initial reaction still stands for now, an FW15 - but I may be wrong!

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Posted 11 December 2010 - 16:13

You may be right - I haven't got time to dig out the necessary files, but my initial reaction still stands for now, an FW15 - but I may be wrong!


Tony
I agree that it is an FW15, it has Proust's name and number on it. I just don't think that it is an FW15C. I'm probably wrong but I assume that the FW15C is third in the the FW15 series development sequence.
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#7140 Tony Matthews

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Posted 11 December 2010 - 16:21

I have to admit that I don't know the difference between an FW15, 15B of 15C - I only saw the car I drew! I'd be interested to know.

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Posted 11 December 2010 - 17:27

Both (Mr.Betti and Mr. Matthews cutaways) have the same hidraulic (?) hidropneumatic (?) active suspension. Or very close.
Here is the magazine text. Quattroruote Speciale Sport 1993.

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Posted 11 December 2010 - 17:56

I'm sure subscribers to this forum are familiar with the automotive artwork of Shin Yoshikawa - here's small selection:

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BMW 3.5CSL by Shin Yoshikawa
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Ford GT40 by Shin Yoshikawa
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Ferrari 360 Modena by Shin Yoshikawa
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Porsche 917 KURZ by Shin Yoshikawa
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Lancia Stratos by Shin Yoshikawa
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Datsun 240Z by Shin Yoshikawa
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More here: Kai Art International (K.A.I) even some prints for sale too!!


But this spritely old gent is also fairly handy with a hammer and metal fabrication. Here he is knocking up a door skin.

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I'm in awe of the aluminum bodied Toyota 2000 GT project he's leading. For the full story visit: Studio Time Capsule (S.T.C.)

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It's amazing to see the coach work built like this today from a by gone era...

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Posted 11 December 2010 - 18:37

it has Proust's name and number on it.


Please trust me when I say I am not taking a cheap shot at a mis-spelling, but what a wonderfully apt mis-spell for The Nostalgia Forum.
Proust wrote the volume "A la recherche du temps perdu", which in English goes as "In search of lost time", which is what this place is all about. It is an almost Freudian slip. Just wonderful.
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Posted 11 December 2010 - 19:15

Please trust me when I say I am not taking a cheap shot at a mis-spelling, but what a wonderfully apt mis-spell for The Nostalgia Forum.
Proust wrote the volume "A la recherche du temps perdu", which in English goes as "In search of lost time", which is what this place is all about. It is an almost Freudian slip. Just wonderful.
Roger Lund


I know. Comes from proof reading your posting after submitting it. Had hopes of slipping it by without calling attention to it by making a flip edit. Ah well, at least they're both French.

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Posted 11 December 2010 - 19:26

Austin Bantam engine, 1930 USA.

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#7146 Tony Matthews

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Posted 11 December 2010 - 21:13

I know. Comes from proof reading your posting after submitting it. Had hopes of slipping it by without calling attention to it by making a flip edit. Ah well, at least they're both French.

Al

I noticed it, but in the spirit of Christmas, decided to let it lie!

#7147 eldougo

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Posted 12 December 2010 - 02:00

[quote name='KarlKarlson' date='Dec 12 2010, 02:56' post='4756151']
I'm sure subscribers to this forum are familiar with the automotive artwork of Shin Yoshikawa - here's small selection:

BMW 3.5CSL by Shin Yoshikawa
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#7148 macoran

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Posted 12 December 2010 - 19:34

No cutaways, but you'll find the 2010 F1 technical analysis here, with race by race Giorgio Piola drawings.
http://www.f1-info.cz/wiki/::ID::2654

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Posted 12 December 2010 - 20:15

Dodge Viper RT10 by David Kimble

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#7150 macoran

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Posted 12 December 2010 - 20:50

Skoda 110R Coupe by Vaclav Kral. you know..the guy who designed the Tatra MTX V8 (a Czech Lamborghini Diablo clone)
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