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#7751 Karabas

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Posted 30 January 2011 - 15:05

Ford Escort RS Cosworth by Terry Collins

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Damn!
Especially "with a magnifying glass" walked through the book - SHOLASTIC Inc. and USBORN Pub. did not mention Terry Collins NOWHERE!
What a piggish...

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#7752 JoeKane

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Posted 30 January 2011 - 15:57

I had a three t-shirts of some of my drawings done, just to see about the response. I finally actually had someone ask about getting one of them yesterday ... but he was a friend of Tommy Ivo, who was the subject of the drawing on the shirt I wore yesterday.
Tom West

Hmmm... Mr. West tell me more about these tee shirts. I'm interested in them. Feel free to e-mail me off line if you would rather.
I appreciate your insights into my dilemma with the prints.
Joe

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Posted 30 January 2011 - 17:16

Hmmm... Mr. West tell me more about these tee shirts. I'm interested in them. Feel free to e-mail me off line if you would rather.
I appreciate your insights into my dilemma with the prints.
Joe


Joe, the shirts are based on some of my cutaways and the layouts. I would have done them a bit differently, but they were printed on white and don't look too bad. The color one based on a photo (actually a painting modification in Photoshop) was supposed to have been a die sub process, but they just did a more standard process. Actually wore that shirt out there yesterday.
I only got the three with the cutaways ... one each of the John Force Funny Car, the Tommy Ivo Twin-Buick gas dragster and the Keith Harvey Pro Street Willys. They were just done as a sample run by a group that we ran into at the PRI Show in Orlando. They never came back and answered many of my questions after they realized that I wasn't going to jump in and try to merchandise them into something bigger.
I know there are ways to get things like that done fairly easily now, will have to look into it more, I think.
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Posted 30 January 2011 - 19:04

I know there are ways to get things like that done fairly easily now, will have to look into it more, I think.
Tom West

There is transfer film available.
Reverse (in your pc) the image you want to use, print onto the film and use it to iron the print onto your T shirt.

Edited by macoran, 30 January 2011 - 19:12.


#7755 Tony Matthews

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Posted 30 January 2011 - 19:35

There is transfer film available.
Reverse (in your pc) the image you want to use, print onto the film and use it to iron the print onto your T shirt.

Don't talk to me about ironing shirts, I've just done eight!

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Posted 30 January 2011 - 19:59

Don't talk to me about ironing shirts, I've just done eight!

Hang them up as you take them out of the drier !! No ironing here !

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Posted 30 January 2011 - 22:15

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Doble steam car boiler detail. By Barry Rowe.

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Daimler Double 6-50. Hydraulic centrifugal clutch. Fluid coupling. By Barry Rowe.

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Posted 30 January 2011 - 22:15

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Zeke 52. By Batchelor.

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Posted 30 January 2011 - 22:16

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Saab three cylinder. By Barry Rowe

Certainly a very loose style!

Edit: Page 39 of that psychedelic Bosch book yet again, I think Karabas!

Edited by werks prototype, 31 January 2011 - 22:21.


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#7760 Karabas

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Posted 30 January 2011 - 23:16

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Saab three cylinder. By Barry Rowe

Certainly a very loose style!

Edit: Page 39 of that psychedelic Bosch book yet again, I think Karabas!


Who is would could have imagined, looking at these rough, smelling of lubricating oil steel inwards, that this man once wins Pebble Beach Concours d'Elegance...
An amazing versatile talent!

#7761 werks prototype

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Posted 30 January 2011 - 23:23

Who is would could have imagined, looking at these rough, smelling of lubricating oil steel inwards, that this man once wins Pebble Beach Concours d'Elegance...
An amazing versatile talent!


:) :up: Very true!

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Posted 31 January 2011 - 07:37

That perfectly sums up the situation, Tom. This is why I don't get involved in prints, and do not think I will ever produce a book of any kind - if someone else is prepared to fund it, OK, but I am not in the situation where I can ride a big financial loss, and I'm not into vanity publishing. However, long may this thread continue!


I had been speaking with a publisher about just such a thing with the History of the Hot Rod as the theme ... drag racing, Salt Flats, Indy, Street Rods, and all that other strange American stuff. They had a much simpler concept in mind .. like throw something out there smaller and lower priced and then do another ...
Just never got much enthusiasm for it, to be honest. Not sure it will happen, but it is one of those contributions to a major area of my life that I would like to give back to.
Just not sure how much I can afford to give to make it happen, as you indicate.
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Posted 31 January 2011 - 07:40

There is transfer film available.
Reverse (in your pc) the image you want to use, print onto the film and use it to iron the print onto your T shirt.


The "prototype" print shirts that were done were fairly standard, but were actually pretty nice. The color one was some sort of inkjet, I think, but done on that white vinyl underlay, so not the most permanent of processes. The black on the white shirts did seem to be holding pretty well.
Since there really did not seem to be all that much interest, it is another area of phenomenal wealth that I will be missing out on evidently, along with those cutaway themed publications ...
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Posted 31 January 2011 - 07:42

Don't talk to me about ironing shirts, I've just done eight!


Think you need that other guy's wife .. the one who dusts his containerload of books ...
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Posted 31 January 2011 - 08:20

Think you need that other guy's wife .. the one who dusts his containerload of books ...
Tom West

Tha did occur to me...

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Posted 31 January 2011 - 08:20

Good morning Gents. Here is link to latest peice of work 'Again' :drunk: thought I too was going bonkers with a whole load of posts missing.

Latest illustration

colours do look a tad bold and bright on screen but when printed they do get muted no matter what colour profile is used, 'down side to creating digital illustrations I suppose.

Am now trying to decide to draw 1989? Camel Lotus of Nakajima or a spare Judd engine for car. not cutaways but car was photographed with nose and engine cover removed and wheels off. Owner bought car last year now racing it in Historic F1 races and part of package was an unused Judd engine for it, so may just do a nice line illustration of that.

check out the link, the other end of the racing formula spectrum F1 Stockcars.

regards

Roy

Edited by scorerr770, 31 January 2011 - 10:02.


#7767 Tony Matthews

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Posted 31 January 2011 - 09:00

Latest illustration

colours do look a tad bold and bright on screen but when printed they do get muted no matter what colour profile is used, 'down side to creating digital illustrations I suppose.

Nice to see it back again Roy, Most things look slightly better on screen I think, like projected slides always look 'brighter' than prints.

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Posted 31 January 2011 - 14:53

Yes, indeed! And I even have his signed book - "Atmosphere and Light" № 802 of 1500. I did not have in mind that this is the same artist... Thanks, you opened my eyes!
That's what it means to deal mainly with aircraft. I must sometimes go down to the ground :)

Barry is a member of the Automotive Fine Arts Society with a lot of his work in Road and Track. He is a brilliant artist and great guy, I have met him a few times over recent years but he has never discussed his cutaway work, if I should meet him at one of the shows this year I will ask him.


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Posted 31 January 2011 - 22:28

Evidence of a missing Abarth!

http://www.hachette-...Collection2.htm

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Posted 01 February 2011 - 22:51

I don't recall seeing this, apologies if it has already been posted.

From Road & Track magazine April, 1962. The cutaway in this issue on pages 48-49 was of the Project 99 Ferguson.

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Posted 01 February 2011 - 23:36

I don't recall seeing this, apologies if it has already been posted.

From Road & Track magazine April, 1962. The cutaway in this issue on pages 48-49 was of the Project 99 Ferguson.

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What a thoroughly classy fellow!

And another great image of a master at work for the thread, to boot! :up:

#7772 Tony Matthews

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Posted 02 February 2011 - 00:10

I don't recall seeing this, apologies if it has already been posted.

From Road & Track magazine April, 1962. The cutaway in this issue on pages 48-49 was of the Project 99 Ferguson.

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Thanks for posting that, Brian, I have never seen it! Monique is not a Parisienne, however, but from a town not far from Le Mans, the name of which escapes me at the moment. The Lotus Elite was part-payement for work done, and was LH drive, which was quite exciting for me, and taught me a lot about overtaking distances before I learned to drive!

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Posted 02 February 2011 - 02:56

I don't recall seeing this, apologies if it has already been posted.
From Road & Track magazine April, 1962. The cutaway in this issue on pages 48-49 was of the Project 99 Ferguson.

Thank you B Squared for posting another great piece of history and especially for your care in documenting the source.
We should all do so well.
Unofficial cutaway art historian.
Joe

Edited by JoeKane, 02 February 2011 - 05:00.


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Posted 02 February 2011 - 08:32

Gentlemen, I got my hands on the november 1999 issue of Aeroplane Monthly, that has a 8 page article about aircraft (cutaway) artist Peter Endsleigh Castle.
I won't post it for obvious copyright reasons.
If anybody wants it: please send me a PM and I will mail you the article (total of 3.5mb).

#7775 B Squared

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Posted 02 February 2011 - 11:14

Gentlemen, thank you for the kind words. I don't have much to contribute to this subject, but I certainly enjoy looking in and learning from all who have invested so much time and effort into the cutaways.

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Posted 02 February 2011 - 11:40

ooh, married to a Parisienne eh?. Well I'm engaged to someone from Batley. Doesn't have quite the same ring to it does it? And how did I miss the opportunity of having a Type 35 before I was 33.

Great cutting though.

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Posted 02 February 2011 - 23:16

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Great - thanks. Here it is with the labelling etc removed and the signature (supplied by Ibsen) restored.
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Posted 03 February 2011 - 09:34

Great - thanks. Here it is with the labelling etc removed and the signature (supplied by Ibsen) restored.
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Great job, justice triumphed!
Unfortunately, I can not award you a cigar, only Tony Matthews has a license for distribution of tobacco products in this thread :smoking:
My gift to you is much modest. You like owls? Select any!

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Posted 03 February 2011 - 09:43

Great job, justice triumphed!
Unfortunately, I can not award you a cigar, only Tony Matthews has a license for distribution of tobacco products in this thread :smoking:
My gift to you is much modest. You like owls? Select any!

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Excellent! Many thanks. Unfortunately (or fortunately?) Google was unable to find a cutaway owl drawing for me! Malcolm

Edited by MEI, 03 February 2011 - 10:03.


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#7780 Karabas

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Posted 03 February 2011 - 10:40

Unfortunately (or fortunately?) Google was unable to find a cutaway owl drawing for me! Malcolm


Not exactly, but...
http://news.bmezine....wl-skeleton.jpg :)

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Posted 03 February 2011 - 11:13

Will that do it?
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#7782 MEI

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Posted 03 February 2011 - 11:29

Will that do it?
http://ny-image1.ets...ll.86218749.jpg

What have I started??

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#7783 werks prototype

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Posted 03 February 2011 - 13:06

What have I started??


An ornithological sub-specialism? :)




#7784 Karabas

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Posted 03 February 2011 - 13:52

What have I started??


Malcolm, you have opened Pandora's box. :)
But, before we close it, can I give a little remark?

I believe, that we all in this thread, consider cutaways as real fine art, not just a good drawing technique or funny pictures. If we look around, then we will see how many great artists have helped us see the unseen. Moreover, not only in the technical world, but in many, many other forms of our being: a wonderful illustrations of wildlife, beautiful architecture works, scientific sketches and much more. For example, when I received a medical education, I spent several years to deal with outstanding anatomical illustrations (I promise not to scare you, dear friends, putting some samples of these pictures :lol: ). It's also a kind of cutaway art. Right?
Years later, the deeper I dived into the world of illustration, the thinner became the line between animate and inanimate nature in the pictures for me. Eventually, everything depends on the mastery of the artist and his feelings toward to the subject, which he painted. Depends only from how professionally and aesthetically pleasing, painter allowed me to see the unknown, hidden from view.
IMHO, it does not matter THAT is drawn, but it is important HOW!

I'm afraid - it will be the beginning of the absolute and endless offtopic. Therefore, without regret, I close this bottomless box. :)

Edited by Karabas, 03 February 2011 - 18:32.


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Posted 03 February 2011 - 20:25

An ornithological sub-specialism? :)


Wasn't there an old Owl modelkit from Renwal, the Visible Owl or something. They had grasshoppers, dogs ... everything but a badger, I think, so they must have had an owl ...
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Posted 04 February 2011 - 06:32

Is this what happens when a Cutaway is used for manufacture?

From Big Lorry Blog, a 1975 ERF

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Posted 04 February 2011 - 08:15

Wasn't there an old Owl modelkit from Renwal, the Visible Owl or something. They had grasshoppers, dogs ... everything but a badger, I think, so they must have had an owl ...
Tom West


I'm not too familiar with those kits Tom, however a quick search reveals, the 'visible series', and a sort of cut-away Polaris Submarine. I have found an image of the 'Visible' Dog kit. I bet they did produce a 'visible' Badger kit, but that it is difficult to find, during the day.

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Posted 04 February 2011 - 08:18

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British Leyland four-cylinder transverse engine. By Barry Rowe.

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Posted 04 February 2011 - 13:00

The new RedBull RB-7 position driver and other tehcnicals drawings come directly from the Red Bull press materials - images explaining the new RB7 changes, Gizmag web
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Posted 04 February 2011 - 15:50

The new RedBull RB-7 position driver an other tehcnicals drawings come directly from the Red Bull press materials - images explaining the new RB7 changes, Gizmag web
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Blimey! Even having had the good fortune of a trip round the factory, I have never seen such a graphic illustration of just how prone the drivers sit nowadays!

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Posted 04 February 2011 - 15:56

Today I found on Ebay a great lot: CALENDAR OF GM ENGINES BY DAVID KIMBLE

http://i.ebayimg.com/02/!CEwh99!BG...3lgJV,g~~_3.JPG
http://i.ebayimg.com/19/!CEwh+fwCGk~&a...3loEwUw~~_3.JPG


Unfortunately, the seller does not send a parcel to my country. But maybe someone wants to buy? Looks very tempting and the price is reasonable (second similar sale of almost 20 times more expensive!!). :up:

Edited by Karabas, 04 February 2011 - 15:59.


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Posted 04 February 2011 - 16:06

Is this what happens when a Cutaway is used for manufacture?

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Early British air conditioning system, surely? :)



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Posted 04 February 2011 - 19:07

Is this what happens when a Cutaway is used for manufacture?

From Big Lorry Blog, a 1975 ERF

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That shot reminds me of vehicles that one would see sitting on the side of the road in New York City .. except they would have no seats or tires left.
And, it would be done on side of the freeway .. and might sit for a year without ever being moved.
Those guys could strip an automotive carcass like buzzard would a dead cow. Wonderful place to live, in case you were wondering ... Just the grafitti artwork and the broken antenna on your car gave a unique flair to any automotive subject in the area.
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Posted 04 February 2011 - 19:13

I'm not too familiar with those kits Tom, however a quick search reveals, the 'visible series', and a sort of cut-away Polaris Submarine. I have found an image of the 'Visible' Dog kit. I bet they did produce a 'visible' Badger kit, but that it is difficult to find, during the day.


Werks,
Renwall did a cutaway Polaris sub, as did Revell. They were both based on a provisional drawing that was published in Mechanics Illustrated, or some other such highly secret publication that was in most workshops in the country at the time. Congress made fools of themselves talking about the audacity of the modelkit business in putting out this secret material for our enemies to just steal, not knowing that it was a lift of incorrect material from some other source.
The exact same thing happened in the '80s when Testors did their "Stealth Fighter." which was based on a painting in a Bill Gunston book, and was nothing near what the real aircraft was to be. Same big furor and they all blustered over a fake marketing gimmick to sell modelkits.
Assume that you have such similar fools around the world ... we can't be the only ones with these dolts thinking they are qualified to run anything that they chose, whether they have done anything previously .. and I mean anything ...
OK, sorry for the political twist there ...
Tom West

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Posted 04 February 2011 - 20:19

Werks,
Renwall did a cutaway Polaris sub, as did Revell. They were both based on a provisional drawing that was published in Mechanics Illustrated, or some other such highly secret publication that was in most workshops in the country at the time. Congress made fools of themselves talking about the audacity of the modelkit business in putting out this secret material for our enemies to just steal, not knowing that it was a lift of incorrect material from some other source.
The exact same thing happened in the '80s when Testors did their "Stealth Fighter." which was based on a painting in a Bill Gunston book, and was nothing near what the real aircraft was to be. Same big furor and they all blustered over a fake marketing gimmick to sell modelkits.
Assume that you have such similar fools around the world ... we can't be the only ones with these dolts thinking they are qualified to run anything that they chose, whether they have done anything previously .. and I mean anything ...
OK, sorry for the political twist there ...
Tom West


Yep, very true. And another example reminiscent perhaps of the 'tactical' technical alterations and deliberate obfuscation sometimes necessarily employed by the great flight cut-away artists of yesteryear. Your description of, shall we say, a mis-placed bureaucratic intervention, regarding both the Polaris and the stealth fighter model kits :stoned:, brings to mind also a certain historical case, associated with Jim Swearingen's pattern drawings produced for one of the early Star Wars space craft,

"In March 1978, Beverly Hills, California, patent attorney Peter Eicher sent 20th Century Fox Film Corp. a "VERY URGENT" (excuse the capitals) letter. He informed studio lawyers that the federal government had suspended a request for a foreign design patent on Luke Skywalker's X-Wing Fighter "until a review requested by both NASA and the Air Force....on the basis that the application contains subject material that appears to be of interest to National Security."

I think there, it was either a case of too much imagination! Or too little!

Rest assured, I'm sure such politicking, is a global phenomenon. :up:

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Posted 04 February 2011 - 20:26

Looking for this thread's index among these loads of pages :confused: Can anyone share the exact link to it?

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Posted 04 February 2011 - 20:35

Perhaps this is better posted in the Ebay discoveries thread, but the item is of special interest for the afficionandos here.

K.L.G.SPARK PLUG ADVERTISING TRANSART CUT AWAY DRAWINGS

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Posted 04 February 2011 - 20:53

Looking for this thread's index among these loads of pages :confused: Can anyone share the exact link to it?

I find that it usually shows up fairly quickly if you enter 'TNF index' into the 'Search Topic' box at the bottom left of the thread page. Current latest versions are here (Part A) and here (Part B).

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Posted 04 February 2011 - 20:56

Thank you! :)

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#7800 TWest

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Posted 04 February 2011 - 22:25

Yep, very true. And another example reminiscent perhaps of the 'tactical' technical alterations and deliberate obfuscation sometimes necessarily employed by the great flight cut-away artists of yesteryear. Your description of, shall we say, a mis-placed bureaucratic intervention, regarding both the Polaris and the stealth fighter model kits :stoned:, brings to mind also a certain historical case, associated with Jim Swearingen's pattern drawings produced for one of the early Star Wars space craft,

"In March 1978, Beverly Hills, California, patent attorney Peter Eicher sent 20th Century Fox Film Corp. a "VERY URGENT" (excuse the capitals) letter. He informed studio lawyers that the federal government had suspended a request for a foreign design patent on Luke Skywalker's X-Wing Fighter "until a review requested by both NASA and the Air Force....on the basis that the application contains subject material that appears to be of interest to National Security."

I think there, it was either a case of too much imagination! Or too little!

Rest assured, I'm sure such politicking, is a global phenomenon. :up:


Well, we are talking about lawyers and politicians now .. always a fount of creativity from what I have seen.
No offense to any of either who might have wandered astray and gotten loose in Cutawayland. That comment was intended only for the furtherance of a private conversation, and was not intended to characterize any individual or group ... not too much anyway.
Tom West (although I may be someone else ...)