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#8151 werks prototype

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Posted 06 March 2011 - 23:24

Second in the Shin collection of Saturday ... the update ... is the Porsche 911 GT1. I am showing this as a 1997 car.
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:up: Great stuff, Tom! (They are all great, but I particularly like this)

Did he do a Mercedes clk-gtr as well?



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#8152 werks prototype

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Posted 06 March 2011 - 23:31

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Found this piece on Theo Page in Autosport 2nd Jan 1997. Anyone know more about Theo ?

I think that Bruce Jones is in error in calling the main cutaway A BRM H-16. I think it is a '64 - '65 P261


Pretty darn unique stuff as usual, Marc. :up:

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Posted 06 March 2011 - 23:33

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Aston Martin chassis. 1932 'international' sports road car form. By Max Millar.

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Posted 06 March 2011 - 23:34

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Aston Martin DB2. By Artist unknown Harold Bubb. Thanks marlondylan.

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Posted 06 March 2011 - 23:34

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Aston Martin DB5, four seater, 4 litre, 1964. By John Ferguson.

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Posted 06 March 2011 - 23:52

Here be Shin Yoskikawa's Porsche Boxter.
Did that come off piratish?
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Aye!

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Posted 07 March 2011 - 05:56

Tom...shh....... it says 300SLR on the trunk (boot)



Ah ... what happens when trying to get those out and get moving for the day ...
Sorry about that. Obviously the 300SL based car.
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Posted 07 March 2011 - 05:58

I am wondering what Carlo Abarth's team could have done to make a Carrera go faster, is it really titled as such ?


Marc,
Yes, it certainly is. Think I have seen others along that line, but I am sure they did some extra tweaking of some sort, but not sure of what. Should have the feature on the car around somewhere, so if I find it, I will try to get the info for you.
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Posted 07 March 2011 - 06:00

:up: Great stuff, Tom! (They are all great, but I particularly like this)

Did he do a Mercedes clk-gtr as well?



If he has, I do not recall seeing it.
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Posted 07 March 2011 - 09:36

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Aston Martin DB2. By Artist unknown


This drawing was first published in "The Motor", the name of the artist included, this one coming from an Aston Martin publication.

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Posted 07 March 2011 - 10:08

This drawing was first published in "The Motor", the name of the artist included, this one coming from an Aston Martin publication.

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It looks great against the blue - one thing about a heavy shadow, you can always give it the 'spotlight' treatment. Very nice drawing, too.

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Posted 07 March 2011 - 10:30

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Penske PC27 working drawing detail. I had this out due to a small surge of interest, so thought I'd scan a bit of it.

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Posted 07 March 2011 - 10:52

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By contrast, the Williams FW18 from two years earlier. Ah, the Williams Renault series...

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Posted 07 March 2011 - 16:29

Aaah thank you, Mr. Matthews, for posting these two.
I do enjoy the fine detail of your exquisite working drawings.
I've spent quite some time studying these two... and have determined I need a larger monitor... :drunk:

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Posted 07 March 2011 - 17:50

... and have determined I need a larger monitor... :drunk:

Joe, you need to save the TM drawings as a .jpeg s
transfer it to your stand alone multi media HD
then show the pictures on your wide screen tv
sit down in your lazy chair
grab a beer
a bag of chips
drop your jaw
and stare at Matthews masterpieces one by one

better than anything they have on the telly nowadays !

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Posted 07 March 2011 - 18:11

This drawing was first published in "The Motor", the name of the artist included, this one coming from an Aston Martin publication.

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:up: Harold Bubb! Thanks very much for identifying that. I shall amend the original post.

Thanks again!

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Posted 07 March 2011 - 18:13

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By contrast, the Williams FW18 from two years earlier. Ah, the Williams Renault series...


I am completely out of superlatives. Instead, I shall take Marc's advice and just sit back and take these works in nice and slowly!

Beautiful and sublime work! :up:

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Posted 07 March 2011 - 18:44

Next up is the Toyota Sports 800 from Shin Yoshikawa.
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another Toyota Sports 800 - illustrator unknown
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Posted 07 March 2011 - 19:47

250GT SWB probably by Betti.

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Posted 07 March 2011 - 20:37

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By contrast, the Williams FW18 from two years earlier. Ah, the Williams Renault series...


Tony,
I have done these things for years, and seeing your working drawings like this make me feel like I have been doing something completely different than what you are doing. Thanks for continuing to provide that creative inspiration that you have done for many years. Again, great work.
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Posted 07 March 2011 - 20:49

Well, different vehicles Tom, what you have done in your field is superb. Thanks for the compliment. By the way, Jay Leno must be proud to have appeared in the same photograph as you!

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Posted 07 March 2011 - 22:02

Tony,
I have done these things for years, and seeing your working drawings like this make me feel like I have been doing something completely different than what you are doing....Tom West


This reminds me of the famous quote from golf legend Bobby Jones. When a young Jack Nicklaus won the 1965 Masters, Jones said NIcklaus “was playing a game with which I am not familiar".

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Posted 07 March 2011 - 22:04

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Penske PC27 working drawing detail. I had this out due to a small surge of interest, so thought I'd scan a bit of it.

Tony, these are beautifully thought through and drawn :up:

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Posted 08 March 2011 - 06:16

This reminds me of the famous quote from golf legend Bobby Jones. When a young Jack Nicklaus won the 1965 Masters, Jones said NIcklaus “was playing a game with which I am not familiar".



Yeah, what you said.
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Posted 08 March 2011 - 06:18

Boarders ...
I am going to post a few more Shin Yoshikawa pieces this evening, leaving two more batches of 6 to go.
Will start with his Alfa Romeo TZ1 coupe.
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Posted 08 March 2011 - 06:21

And, number two for your dining and dancing pleasure this evening will be the Shin Yoshikawa rendition of that little tune called the Ferrari 550 Muranello.
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Posted 08 March 2011 - 06:23

And number three is the Shin Yoshikawa illustration of the Fiat Abarth 1000 TCR. Someone asked about how they made the Porsche any quicker ... bet you won't have the same point to make here.
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Posted 08 March 2011 - 06:24

Fourth we have an unusual subject for Shin Yoshikawa, a Formula one car ... the Lotus 33.
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Posted 08 March 2011 - 06:27

The fifth Shin Yoshikawa piece for the evening is the Porsche 904 GTS.
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Posted 08 March 2011 - 06:30

And we close our look at the Shin Yoshikawa collection for the evening with the Porsche 911 Carrera (996). Hope you are enjoying this trip back to the day of the line drawing cutaways. Since I never felt like I had the talent to move out of it, this is more the stuff I can relate to actually doing.
Thanks for playing along, your mileage may vary.

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Posted 08 March 2011 - 07:19

And we close our look at the Shin Yoshikawa collection for the evening with the Porsche 911 Carrera (996). Hope you are enjoying this trip back to the day of the line drawing cutaways. Since I never felt like I had the talent to move out of it, this is more the stuff I can relate to actually doing.
Thanks for playing along, your mileage may vary.

Tom West

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Thanks for posting these in a larger format - it is greatly appreciated as it is easier to see the detail of the line drawings.
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Posted 08 March 2011 - 07:50

Thanks for posting these in a larger format - it is greatly appreciated as it is easier to see the detail of the line drawings.
Peter


I wish that someone had said something. I just noticed that my ImageShack had set itself to scale to a smaller size, so I reset it to do not scale. All of those things that I had been putting up were supposed to be larger than they must have been coming through ... never looked at a download of them.
Not sure about going back and reloading all of that stuff ... would drive Ibsen nuts redoing the entire index ...
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Posted 08 March 2011 - 09:13

Not sure about going back and reloading all of that stuff ... would drive Ibsen nuts redoing the entire index ...

Don't worry about it Tom, it's not a big deal - the illustrations are still a good size, just not as massive as earlier! I'm more than impressed with your work-rate, you are one of the core that supplies all these cutaways, you only have to check your total posts on this thread to see how busy you've been in such a short time.

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Posted 08 March 2011 - 09:16

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Penske PC27 working drawing detail. I had this out due to a small surge of interest, so thought I'd scan a bit of it.


Tony, are the springs (more specifically, the lower one) as they should be? My eyes seem to be playing tricks on me when I look at them.


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Posted 08 March 2011 - 09:48

Tony, are the springs (more specifically, the lower one) as they should be? My eyes seem to be playing tricks on me when I look at them.

No, you are absolutely right! The far (LH) spring is OK, the near one is OK at the rear coil, but then they got away from me, only by the thickness of an ink lline or a little more, but they are wrong. The point of a working drawing is not to be super-accurate, but get things in the right place, and to have an idea of how the finished job will look.

I now have to check the finished artwork and see if I got that right! Coil springs are one of those items that, if you don't get them right, everyone notices. I've seen so many engine cutaways with rows of valve springs looking like finned drums, no helix at all.

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Well, a bit better, but not perfect! I have to hold my hand up, but it's too late now, the original has gone, and I'm not fiddling with the working drawing, that seems a bit unethical - it will have to stay, warts and all.

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Posted 08 March 2011 - 10:06

250GT SWB probably by Betti.

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Beautiful - thanks. I always think this is one of the finest, most puposeful looking cars ever. Malcolm

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Posted 08 March 2011 - 10:12

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Well, a bit better, but not perfect! I have to hold my hand up, but it's too late now, the original has gone, and I'm not fiddling with the working drawing, that seems a bit unethical - it will have to stay, warts and all.

Perfect by the standards of us lesser mortals! Malcolm

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Posted 08 March 2011 - 10:17

Perfect by the standards of us lesser mortals! Malcolm


indeed it is - at least Tony will see that we all study his work attentively, and look forward to whatever he will make available for us to view.

Oh, and I agree completely on the beauty of the F250

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Posted 08 March 2011 - 16:25

I wish that someone had said something. I just noticed that my ImageShack had set itself to scale to a smaller size, so I reset it to do not scale.
Not sure about going back and reloading all of that stuff ... would drive Ibsen nuts redoing the entire index ...
Tom West

Tom, I vote for reloading in the larger format as I found myself frustrated with fuzzy detail. (Easy for me to say as I'm not the bloke having to do it!) Actually I don't think it's that far back that it changed. Perhaps you can update them on ImageShack in the same file location. I have seen a couple folks edit an image and seem to retain the original location, but not sure how they accomplished same. They may have edited their original post with the new location link. Doing so would not affect Ibsen's wonderful index. I do enjoy the larger format and scaling has not been a problem for me. As an aside I'm planning on installing a large screen in the new shop so I can show slide shows of this wonderful art and automotive movies as well. All are welcome to stop by for a glass of wine...

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Posted 08 March 2011 - 16:57

Tom,
The change is file sizing appears to have first ocurred at your post #7806 on page 196. Easy for me to say that isn't all that many as it isn't me doing the work!
Joe

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Posted 08 March 2011 - 17:01

Few cutaways from back issues of Autocar & Motor

Max Millar the car is unknown :confused:
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Vic Berris Jaguar E-type
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Terry Collins Aston Martin DBR1
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Laurence Cresswell Lotus Elite
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Brian Hatton Rolls-Royce Silver Cloud
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Lofthouse(?) Lotus Elan
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And I also vote for Shin Yoshikawa collection reloading... If possible, of course.

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Posted 08 March 2011 - 18:14

Few cutaways from back issues of Autocar & Motor

Max Millar the car is unknown :confused:
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Benz Victoria?


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Posted 08 March 2011 - 18:24

Few cutaways from back issues of Autocar & Motor
Laurence Cresswell Lotus Elite

Lofthouse(?) Lotus Elan

Karabas,
Thanks for posting this trove of treasure.
Is Laurence Cresswell different than Leslie Cresswell? Does appear to be the same style.
I believe the Lotus Elan would be by Tony Lofthouse.
Joe

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Posted 08 March 2011 - 18:39

Don't worry about it Tom, it's not a big deal - the illustrations are still a good size, just not as massive as earlier! I'm more than impressed with your work-rate, you are one of the core that supplies all these cutaways, you only have to check your total posts on this thread to see how busy you've been in such a short time.


Tony,
Thanks for that comment, but I am willing to repost the larger files without having them reduced to 800x?.
Actually, these are pretty quick to do, as they are nicely printed, so I can scan them quickly and they take almost no correction.
As to Ibsen and the Index, I will bow to his decision on the larger file since he is the one who has to keep track of this stuff.
Told someone here that none of us are involved here without a touch of OCD going on ...
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Posted 08 March 2011 - 18:46

Is Laurence Cresswell different than Leslie Cresswell? Does appear to be the same style.
I believe the Lotus Elan would be by Tony Lofthouse.
Joe


Excuse me, here I am almost a complete profane. My range of interests centered mainly in aviation.
But I'm always happy to share here my humble findings in a related field. :)

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Posted 08 March 2011 - 18:46

Perfect by the standards of us lesser mortals! Malcolm


Completely agree. I always approximate coils with a combination of four segments for top and bottom of the coil (generally) using different ellipse guides to make it work. Never exactly correct, but the stuff is never reproduced large enough where any problem tends to show. The effect is there, and nobody takes dimensions from this stuff anyway. If you want to do that, you can go to my modelkit or diecast part drawings ... those are pretty close most of the time.
Always have to allow a little wiggle room there ...
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Posted 08 March 2011 - 18:56

Tom,
The change is file sizing appears to have first ocurred at your post #7806 on page 196. Easy for me to say that isn't all that many as it isn't me doing the work!
Joe


Well, Joe. Sounds like you have been keeping track ...
Will go back and redo them, but should probably dump the Imageshack "small" files then. Of course, that leaves a bunch of holes in the earlier posts, so maybe I will just re-post them.

Thanks, guys, no problem. My bad.
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Posted 08 March 2011 - 20:12

OK, I am going to sort of take this sucker over for a bit and repost all of those silly "reduced to fit" images that I had inadvertently sent everyone. Sorry for the inconvenience, but at least I know what to look for now. If you guys see me putting out those small files again, just let me know and I will correct the situation more quickly.
Will start with a couple of my own, which will be larger than what I had been saving here previously. You should see a bit more in these thllan on the earlier pieces, so let me know if this works better.
The details will be included in the illustration.
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Posted 08 March 2011 - 20:30

Next group of the larger files, the Terry Davey material coming for a little while here ...
First is the Honda Civic 1500 from 1976.

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Next up is the Datsun 240ZX out of 1972.

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And the Datsun 280ZX from 1980.

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Another Datsun, the 1980 Datsun 810.

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Hope this is working.
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Posted 08 March 2011 - 20:39

Another group of four from the Terry Davey covers from Haynes Manuals.
Tom West

Starting with the 1980 Datsun Violet.
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The 1980 Dodge Colt, one of the Mitsubishi/Chrysler cars.
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This one is the 1981 Ford Fairmont.
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And finally the 1981 Ford Mustang.
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