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#8951 macoran

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Posted 14 May 2011 - 02:06

I'm very confused looking at this: a DOHC 4 valve engine from GM? That must be a joke!

Why ? anything is possible for 2012.

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#8952 Duc-Man

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Posted 14 May 2011 - 10:47

The Tyrrell that never was.

In the latter half of 1971, the late Derek Gardner penned this car for the 1972 season. A monocoque was built and a full size mock up tested in the MIRA wind tunnel. It turned out to "unstable in yaw" as Derek put it.

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Drawing by Hatton for the Motor

Does anybody have a Photo from that mock up? What was this cars type number?

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Posted 14 May 2011 - 11:57

Does anybody have a Photo from that mock up? What was this cars type number?

I have the article which was published in Motor magazine...somewhere.
IIRC a Motor journalist and Brian Hatton had an interview with Gardner and Tyrrell.
Out of that interview the journalist wrote up what could be in the pipeline for a future Tyrrell design,
and Hatton drew a cutaway to suit.
I don't recall there really being a mock-up ever.
This cutaway should be seen more as being an artist's impression.
I'll have to find the article and scan it.


#8954 Tim Murray

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Posted 14 May 2011 - 12:07

Don't worry, Marc - job already done.

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Posted 14 May 2011 - 12:18

Don't worry, Marc - job already done.

Thanks a lot.
I still would really like to see a photo of the 'actual' car and I would love to see that thing on track.

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Posted 14 May 2011 - 19:46

Marc,
You made me feel guilty for having been "off" for a while again, so figured I would pull a few out of the scanned images ... of course, having to assemble them a bit to post.
Going aviation for three images today, starting with a fairly significant record breaker from around 60 years ago.
This is Mike Badrocke's version of the Bell X-1 Research craft, first to break the Sound Barrier, and making Chuck Yeager a fairly well-known name. I am showing that it flew first in 1947, which is a stunning realization when you think about what has happened since.
This is out of the December, 2007 issue of Air International, but was not a full two-page spread.
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Posted 14 May 2011 - 19:49

When I started looking into aviation cutaways in 1972, one of the guys who stood out in the Air Enthusiast issues of the time was John Weal. He was pretty prolific with the cutaways until Mike Badrocke and his Aviagraphica name showed up. Still a fairly impressive body of work. This is the Fairey Fulmar I that was published in the May, 2011 issue of Aeroplane. I did not notice the original publication date of the piece.
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Posted 14 May 2011 - 19:55

An interesting aircraft that was used widely around the world, this is an adaptation of the F-111 Ardvark Fighter-Bomber, originally conceived as a combination of all military air needs for the Army and Navy, and ended up with some widely varied tasks that it filled. One of the more successful applications of this swing-wing craft from Grumman-General Dynamics was as the EF-111 Raven, a countermeasures aircraft. Here you see Mike Badrocke's illustration of the EF-111 as published in Air International, October, 2008.
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Posted 14 May 2011 - 19:59

Thanks a lot.
I still would really like to see a photo of the 'actual' car and I would love to see that thing on track.



I am working from memory here ... so don't publish without backing it up ... but there was a very similar car designed by Maurice Phillipe for the Vel's-Parnelli Indy car team. They made a big splash with the V-Tail and various other similar approaches, but most of the unique features were removed and the car competed in a more Plain-Jane configuration. It certainly never got copied and taken into other active ventures that I saw. I had not seen this project when I first saw the Indy car, so it appeared to be pretty innovative. Interesting to see parallel development of a concept happening ... it is just time for something to seem logical, whether it proves to be or not.
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Posted 14 May 2011 - 20:29

I am working from memory here ... so don't publish without backing it up ... but there was a very similar car designed by Maurice Phillipe for the Vel's-Parnelli Indy car team. They made a big splash with the V-Tail and various other similar approaches, but most of the unique features were removed and the car competed in a more Plain-Jane configuration. It certainly never got copied and taken into other active ventures that I saw. I had not seen this project when I first saw the Indy car, so it appeared to be pretty innovative. Interesting to see parallel development of a concept happening ... it is just time for something to seem logical, whether it proves to be or not.
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Tom, I must presume you are referring to the Parnelli VPJ2 Iposted on page 38.
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Posted 14 May 2011 - 22:08

Tom, I must presume you are referring to the Parnelli VPJ2 Iposted on page 38.
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Ah, thought it had come up on the radar recently ... that would, indeed, be it.
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Posted 14 May 2011 - 22:09

Just added this to my MGB collection.
Still haven't got a hold of the Allingtons !!! :evil:

Here Dick Ellis' MGB 1800.....Softtop and/or cabrio were not in "schwung" terms those days.
This is from the Autocar 21st Sept 1962 intro article, and included a drawing of the
monocoque chassis/body and front suspension

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#8963 macoran

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Posted 14 May 2011 - 23:03

From another 1962 Autocar issue. w/e 26 October 1962
BRM P51 by Dick Ellis
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Posted 15 May 2011 - 08:20

Tom, I must presume you are referring to the Parnelli VPJ2 Iposted on page 38.
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I've seen pictures of that car. What I wonder is how they came up with such funny angled wings... :confused:

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Posted 15 May 2011 - 08:51

lotus eclat by Tony Divey
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#8966 macoran

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Posted 15 May 2011 - 11:18

I've seen pictures of that car. What I wonder is how they came up with such funny angled wings... :confused:

The age of aero experimentation I would suppose.
The dihedral wings actually housed some radiators.
The shadow of the left of the car shows wing shadow, the wing itself isn't there but you can see the radiator.

#8967 macoran

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Posted 15 May 2011 - 11:29

lotus eclat by Tony Divey
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Now that is a Lotus cutaway! :p

#8968 macoran

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Posted 15 May 2011 - 13:31

Ford Cortina by Vic Berris in Autocar 21 Sept 1962 launch article,
Article includes engine cutaway by Max Millar, and a drawing by A.N.Other of the "optional"
gearbox column change.
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#8969 macoran

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Posted 15 May 2011 - 18:42

Morris 1100 by Vic Berris,
sorry couldn't get it any better
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#8970 macoran

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Posted 15 May 2011 - 20:41

Tom West did a spit and polish job on the Morris for us
Thanks Tom !
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Posted 15 May 2011 - 23:43

I've seen pictures of that car. What I wonder is how they came up with such funny angled wings... :confused:


There a good explanation of the "whys" and "what happened" to the VPJ1 Indy car written by Alan Lis in the May 2011 issue of Racecar Engineering.

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Posted 16 May 2011 - 04:14

I dont understanding the new format, is very dificult my access to the forum.......
to excuse my poor english. Please help me......... Motocar

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Posted 16 May 2011 - 04:19

I dont understanding the new format, is very dificult my access to the forum.......
to excuse my poor english. Please help me......... Thanks Motocar

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Posted 16 May 2011 - 06:33

Hi Motocar, please could you try to explain why you are having difficulty. If we know what the problem is, we can try to help. I'm not aware of any new format here since the software was upgraded two years ago. :)

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Posted 16 May 2011 - 19:32

Hi Motocar, please could you try to explain why you are having difficulty. If we know what the problem is, we can try to help. I'm not aware of any new format here since the software was upgraded two years ago. :)



Thanks for commenting on that, Tim. I was wondering what new format was in place. Thought I missed something ...
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#8976 Tony Matthews

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Posted 16 May 2011 - 23:22

Perhaps he's being distracted by the nose-art!

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Posted 17 May 2011 - 04:40

Perhaps he's being distracted by the nose-art!



He would have to be getting inside to be able to see that ... don't think that is it.
But it is a humorous thought.
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Posted 17 May 2011 - 23:37

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Winged Whimsy. By Who Cares.


Apologies for this speculative winged 'whimsy'. It is neither cutaway nor serious design study. Nevertheless, lets just say it sprang to mind!


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Posted 17 May 2011 - 23:39

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Another version of the 4WD Spyker, as originally posted by Macoran, way, way back on page 43. A slightly different context, including also a plan silhouette.
By Brian, (for some strange reason I always feel the urge to type, Derek) Hatton.

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Posted 17 May 2011 - 23:40

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Alfa Tipo 160.
2.5-litre 1952 4WD design study. Giovani Cavara.

Edited by werks prototype, 20 May 2011 - 08:47.


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Posted 17 May 2011 - 23:40

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Bugatti T53 4WD Hillclimber. By Mir.

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Posted 17 May 2011 - 23:41

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Kenz Streamliner. Rex Burnett.

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Posted 17 May 2011 - 23:41

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Gulf-Miller cutaway-profile. Artist unknown.

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Posted 17 May 2011 - 23:42

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Bentley MK VI Chassis. By John Ferguson.

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Cosworth 4WD and McLaren M9A 4WD, by Brian Hatton, again, originally posted by Marc on page 64. (This time, less the annotative numbering).

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Posted 17 May 2011 - 23:43

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'The truth laid bare' MG EX 182 by Theo page and accompanying cartoon, by French artist, Heljy.

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MG EX-179. By Theo Page. An alternative to the link given at page 112.

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Posted 17 May 2011 - 23:44

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Trident. Artist unknown (Looking suspicioulsy like a coloured version of that first posted on page 216)

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Gloster Meteor. Artist unknown.

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Douglas A4D Skyhawk. Artist unknown.

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Posted 17 May 2011 - 23:45

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Hovercat Mk.2. By Ira Epton

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Posted 17 May 2011 - 23:46

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Rolls-Royce Silver Cloud III. Artist unknown. In-House catalogue.

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Rolls-Royce 'modified' 6.230 c.c. V8. (Compare with version posted on page 177). By Vic Berris.

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Rolls-Royce Silver Shadow and Bentley 'T' series rear axle. Artist unknown.

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Posted 18 May 2011 - 05:26

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Westland Wyvern. Artist unknown.


Wyvern appears to be by Roy Cross...
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Posted 18 May 2011 - 14:49

Local Motors Spearhead concept. See this website for more images.

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Posted 18 May 2011 - 15:02

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Winged Whimsy. By Who Cares.


Apologies for this speculative winged 'whimsy'. It is neither cutaway nor serious design study. Nevertheless, lets just say it sprang to mind!


If that would have a red/black paint job I'd say it is a 'Leader' out of a Michel Vaillante comic...

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Posted 19 May 2011 - 00:25

Lola T160 by Brian Hatton

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TNF Cutaway Index - updated - page 220 - post 8766 => part A - post 8767 => part B

Edited by ibsenop, 19 May 2011 - 00:31.


#8996 Tony Matthews

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Posted 19 May 2011 - 06:12

Well done, Ibsen, post #9000!

#8997 Duc-Man

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Posted 19 May 2011 - 16:39

Well done, Ibsen, post #9000!

Thanks god I didn't ruin it with my post...

#8998 Tony Matthews

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Posted 19 May 2011 - 16:48

You couldn't ruin anything, Duc-Man! :)

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Posted 19 May 2011 - 17:15

The Bristol Pegasus X and the Gypsy Twelve by James Clark, from the 1938 Temple Press publication Power and Speed.
Sorry about the wobbly stitch near the Marconi harness, after 6 attempts I decided it was as good as I could get it.

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Posted 19 May 2011 - 17:16

The active group here is quite a tight little circle, especially for an art that is relatively outdated by technology. There is still nothing better than realizing that someone has looked inside a particular car or aircraft and can share that with everyone.
No offense to the general artist, but it is like listening to rock music used to be .. get a second-hand guitar, learn a couple of chords and you are a rock star. Don't see that happening in the cutaway field.
To hit 9000 responses, and have the number that we have of them actually post fresh material is quite stunning. Takes a lot of time on both ends of the note, but it is worth it.
Thanks to everyone for their contributions ... onward to 5-figures ...
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