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#9151 macoran

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Posted 05 June 2011 - 21:50

(A beautiful B.S.A Goldie engine by Stan Clinker, will have to remain on hold!)

oh come on !those last 5000 rpm on the gearbox output shaft won't damage anything !

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Posted 05 June 2011 - 22:14

oh come on !those last 5000 rpm on the gearbox output shaft won't damage anything !


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B.S.A Goldie. Late type. By Stan Clinker

In that case, Theo Page's Panther engine and Leonard Clow's 'Stink Wheel' cutaway, will now have to wa..... Never mind!

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Posted 06 June 2011 - 15:22

Alfa Romeo 155
Here is original scan from Autopista magazine:
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I tried to merge its using Photoshop...
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Oh, God ...

I love this Alfa Romeo!
Gentlemen please, post more cutways of 'La Mitica' Alfa Romeo 155.

Thanks a lot.
Regards,

#9154 Embers

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Posted 06 June 2011 - 16:00

just rewriting the url to make it clickable


Thanks. I'm a little unsure on my first image posting. What's the procedure so you don't have to rewrite it?

#9155 macoran

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Posted 06 June 2011 - 18:47

Thanks. I'm a little unsure on my first image posting. What's the procedure so you don't have to rewrite it?

When you right-click to copy the imageshack link, make sure you right-click only ONCE!....and copy it to the thread reply box.
When I look at your url you have removed and added some stuff because you have probably pointed your mouse and clicked
again which added some stuff,and removed other info.

Studied it again:
looks like you copied the http..........etc...............stuff and added the URL bit at the beginning and end yourself....DON'T.....just copy the imageshack link
integrally and paste it into the reply box

Edited by macoran, 06 June 2011 - 19:12.


#9156 macoran

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Posted 06 June 2011 - 21:03

A better and sharper version of the 2CV I posted a few posts back
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The 2CV Charleston,one of the last versions before production closed down, by Jiro Yamada.
Can't see if this already has the front disc brakes.
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also available in anthracite gra(e)y and black

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#9157 Embers

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Posted 07 June 2011 - 02:03

Studied it again:
looks like you copied the http..........etc...............stuff and added the URL bit at the beginning and end yourself....DON'T.....just copy the imageshack link
integrally and paste it into the reply box

I'll give it another try. Here's a cutaway of the Mustang 1 by Bob Thatcher from the November 1962 issue of Sports Car Graphic. My apologies for the holes in the image caused when I saved it in a 3-ring binder. I don't have the software (Photoshop?) to effect a repair.
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To try and make up for that I'll also attach an image of the Ford brochure that first introduced the car:
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Notice the wording on the cover: "...by Ford Engineers and Stylists". I was always a little sad that the engineers did not win this one, but I guess the front-engined, four-seat concept that the company did go with did O.K. They sold a few.

Here's a sort of "phantom view" of the exterior from that brochure, showing the relative location of the internal components:
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Posted 07 June 2011 - 04:45

I'll give it another try. Here's a cutaway of the Mustang 1 by Bob Thatcher from the November 1962 issue of Sports Car Graphic. My apologies for the holes in the image caused when I saved it in a 3-ring binder. I don't have the software (Photoshop?) to effect a repair.
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http://imageshack.us...ustang1962.jpg/

To try and make up for that I'll also attach an image of the Ford brochure that first introduced the car:
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http://imageshack.us...churecover.jpg/
Notice the wording on the cover: "...by Ford Engineers and Stylists". I was always a little sad that the engineers did not win this one, but I guess the front-engined, four-seat concept that the company did go with did O.K. They sold a few.

Here's a sort of "phantom view" of the exterior from that brochure, showing the relative location of the internal components:
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http://imageshack.us...urecutaway.jpg/


I added links (in blue) below your posting above to make the illustrations more easily accessible...

To get the proper link for forums,
go to MY IMAGES in Image Shack
click on the Share It icon (a blue italicized i) for the picture that you wish to share - it is the top icon in the list of icons to the right of each picture
that will open a dialog box -
near the bottom of that box under the heading Thumbnail Size is a line beginning with Forums:
if you copy the address in the box to the right of the word Forums: label and paste it into your posting in the bulletin board you will get a thumbnail of the illustration that is a clickable link

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Posted 07 June 2011 - 09:34

I'll give it another try. Here's a cutaway of the Mustang 1 by Bob Thatcher from the November 1962 issue of Sports Car Graphic. My apologies for the holes in the image caused when I saved it in a 3-ring binder. I don't have the software (Photoshop?) to effect a repair.
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To try and make up for that I'll also attach an image of the Ford brochure that first introduced the car:
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Notice the wording on the cover: "...by Ford Engineers and Stylists". I was always a little sad that the engineers did not win this one, but I guess the front-engined, four-seat concept that the company did go with did O.K. They sold a few.

Here's a sort of "phantom view" of the exterior from that brochure, showing the relative location of the internal components:
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By the hand of photoshop
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#9160 tbolt

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Posted 07 June 2011 - 17:25

There are a lot more illustrations and cutaways like this, here
http://www.cyber-her....co.uk/cutaway/

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Posted 07 June 2011 - 19:21

There are a lot more illustrations and cutaways like this, here
http://www.cyber-her....co.uk/cutaway/

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it is true then that a lot of engineering takes clues from nature ...

#9162 macoran

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Posted 07 June 2011 - 19:38

Bugatti Type 59, bare chassis drawing, not a cutaway but interesting enough,signature reads R Jarraud
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#9163 macoran

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Posted 07 June 2011 - 19:39

BMW Alpina, a Betti ?
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#9164 MEI

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Posted 07 June 2011 - 20:39

Well done, Ibsen, post #9000!

We seem to have lost some early posts. Tony's post is currently showing as 8937 rather than 9001. Strange!
Thanks Tim for the explanation now given below.

Edited by MEI, 07 June 2011 - 20:59.


#9165 Tim Murray

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Posted 07 June 2011 - 20:45

It's due to temporary technical problems, as explained in this post in the Website Feedback forum:

Due to ongoing stability problems - for which we apologise - we have temporarily removed the first three million posts from the forum's database.

Some long running threads will begin in early Feb 2008, while any older threads that remain accessible will have no content.

This is a temporary measure to see if the root cause of these problems is the size of the posts table. All these posts will be restored when the result of running the forum in this way becomes clear.

Thanks for your understanding.



#9166 Tony Matthews

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Posted 07 June 2011 - 21:06

I wonder how Joe Kane is getting on with his archiving - it would be a shame to lose anything from this thread. Joe?

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Posted 07 June 2011 - 21:55

Thank you, Peter, for the tutorial, and thank you, CVA, for the Photoshop repair. This next one could also use some work.

This is Mickey Thompson's Harvey Aluminum Special, as prepared for the 1963 Indianapolis 500. The work is by Steve Swaja. I don't think I've come across other examples of his work, here. This was published in the June 1963 issue of Road & Track. The car wasn't particularly successful, but did introduce the racing world to the concept of the low-profile racing tire. It may have had more success if Firestone had continued to produce the softer-compounded tread instead of reverting to the harder rubber that the other competitors used. The car reminds me, also, of the circa-1970 Ferrari-Pininfarina Sigma concept for an F1 car.

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Edited by Embers, December 26, 2011: improved image.


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#9168 macoran

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Posted 07 June 2011 - 22:18

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I think I saw it on page 43
Ibsen :up:

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#9169 Embers

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Posted 08 June 2011 - 17:45

I think I saw it on page 43
Ibsen :up:


Yes, you're right, Post #1616. I thought I had searched the Index pretty well, but I missed or forgot that one. I'll try not to repost existing artwork, expecially when they are better that what I have.

The index doesn't list this example of the Shelby Cobra 289. Because this is apparently a cutaway of the 1962 prototype, it makes an interesting comparison with the Brian Hatton cutaway of the '65 version, Post #6659. Notice that the transverse leaf springs on the front and rear suspension of the earlier car have been replaced by coils by '65. The artist had a clever way of presenting his name.

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The image is from the August 1962 issue of Sports Car Graphic. The yellowish cast of the artwork seems to confirm that it was drawn from the car shown on the September 1962 issue of Road&Track:

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#9170 macoran

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Posted 08 June 2011 - 19:34

The index doesn't list this example of the Shelby Cobra 289. Because this is apparently a cutaway of the 1962 prototype, it makes an interesting comparison with the Brian Hatton cutaway of the '65 version, Post #6659. Notice that the transverse leaf springs on the front and rear suspension of the earlier car have been replaced by coils by '65. The artist had a clever way of presenting his name.

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Cool ! :up:

#9171 macoran

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Posted 09 June 2011 - 19:38

Citroen Ami 8, the largest bodied 2CV version, same platform chassis and drivetrain.
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Posted 09 June 2011 - 19:39

Citroen BX, composite body panels which had trouble retaining their colour and gloss. Hydropneumatic suspension gave it tenacious road gripand fabulous roadholding.
I just loved roadtesting them after the maintenance jobs.
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Posted 09 June 2011 - 19:41

Audi Avant RS2.artist unknown......question is.... is it drawn or a computer rendering? Has something Betti about it, but as Tony frequently points out, NO cut glass !!!
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Posted 09 June 2011 - 21:18

Citroen BX, composite body panels which had trouble retaining their colour and gloss. Hydropneumatic suspension gave it tenacious road gripand fabulous roadholding.
I just loved roadtesting them after the maintenance jobs.

one rarely sees bumpers that match now but which panels Mac? and would you prefer one of these to a an as-new GS? ( a dream car IMHO, just love that boxer - apart from the exhaust system)
steven

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#9175 macoran

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Posted 09 June 2011 - 21:43

one rarely sees bumpers that match now but which panels Mac? and would you prefer one of these to a an as-new GS? ( a dream car IMHO, just love that boxer - apart from the exhaust system)
steven


Bonnet and bumpers were the worst for discolouration and loss of gloss.

GS? hmmm just loved the GSX3, we didn't sell many but I had to have one at the time,
That was during my karting days, so I had tickled the engine a bit.I think I got it up to 95 DIN bhp in the end (about 65 was factory spec)
Also mucked around on the lathe to re-size the ports in some of the suspension units.
Would you believe I could get it to oversteer flooring it through some corners ?

Funny enough all my fwd cars could get to oversteer when floored through a corner,
I must have been a suspension madman !



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Posted 09 June 2011 - 21:59

... tickled the engine a bit.I think I got it up to 95 DIN bhp in the end (about 65 was factory spec)
Also mucked around on the lathe to re-size the ports in some of the suspension units. ...


want to pick your brain now. i could look at GS's all day - really subtle lines. Indonesia assembling them last Bali had some fantastic examples - kept seeing things i thought were like prototypes or mules unless looking closely so came back from honeymoon and bought one we still miss badly now.
steven
(would just like to have enough of them to make myself both an SM bread-van and a 3-wheeler though...)

#9177 macoran

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Posted 09 June 2011 - 22:16

We stuffed an SM drivetrain in a GSA for rallycrossing........
behehehehe...........that was a blast
It could shit Bimmers and Sierra Cosworths for breakfast !!!


P.S. the GSA engine that then became available was shoehorned in to a 2CV !!

Edited by macoran, 09 June 2011 - 22:18.


#9178 badQ

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Posted 09 June 2011 - 22:38

Fiat X1/9 (1972)
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#9179 Tony Matthews

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Posted 09 June 2011 - 23:00

Audi Avant RS2.artist unknown......question is.... is it drawn or a computer rendering? Has something Betti about it, but as Tony frequently points out, NO cut glass !!!
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:up: :) I would say not computer-drawn, but not by a Betti either!

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Posted 10 June 2011 - 04:52

Here's a cutaway of the Lola Mk 6 GT by Gordon Bruce. It was identified in the article in the May 1963 issue of Sports Car Graphic written by John Blunsden as the "Ford Fairlane Lola GT", referring to its motive power. The original is superimposed on a green band which, I suppose, represented the car's color in that year's LeMans race. I converted the scan to black and white and increased the contrast to even out the white background.

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Notice that Bruce's rendition features the roof top NACA inlet that Tony Matthews mentioned in Post #1616 regarding the cutaway of the same car from the same perspective by Vic Berris. Is it likely that Berris missed this feature? Considering that his image appears more detailed and includes the notch in the bulkhead/firewall to permit passage of the duct from the inlet, I believe the answer is "no". The Bruce artwork shows other details that differ from the Berris work: Knockoff nuts on the disc wheels rather than hexagonal nuts. The pictures in the Blunsden article clearly show the inlet and the knockoffs. A picture from the September '63 issue of the same magazine shows the car during the LeMans race, and it is using the hex nuts on its wheels as do pictures of a restored Mk 6 to be found at Ultimatecarpage.com. The angle of the race photograph makes it hard to tell if the roof inlet is there or not, but what is visible are flank inlets below the quarter windows, ahead of the rear wheels. These are indicated in the Berris image. The Bruce cutaway represents the car at introduction and the Berris cutaway, the car as raced. It was apparently discovered that NACA inlets don't work very well in areas of expanding flow, as experienced aft of the windscreen, and another means of feeding air to the engine was provided.

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Posted 10 June 2011 - 11:33

Having a huge interest in physical and illustrated cutaways this thread has kept me busy for quite a while. I have made a great start on reading some of the posts but i still have plenty to keep me busy here. Thankyou to the member who introduced me to this forum and to everyone else here keep the cutaways coming. Some really great artists and some fantastic illustrations!

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Posted 10 June 2011 - 20:22

Notice that Bruce's rendition features the roof top NACA inlet that Tony Matthews mentioned in Post #1616 regarding the cutaway of the same car from the same perspective by Vic Berris. Is it likely that Berris missed this feature? Considering that his image appears more detailed and includes the notch in the bulkhead/firewall to permit passage of the duct from the inlet, I believe the answer is "no".


The story behind the Lola Mk6's disappearing NACA duct is that the car was initially rejected by the Le Mans scrutineers (tech inspectors) on the grounds that the internal ducting below it obstructed the driver's rear vision. Fortunately Peter and Dave Jackson of Specialised Mouldings had travelled to Le Mans to act as the Lola signalling crew, and they reworked the engine cover with new side air ducts and a new perspex rear screen which was passed by the scrutineers second time around.

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Posted 10 June 2011 - 20:33

Here is some 'potentially' interesting material.

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Avia Easter. Artist, Jiri Rames


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Posted 10 June 2011 - 20:34

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Delfin 1100. Artist, Nejedly

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Avia AE 3. Artist, Jiri Rames

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Posted 10 June 2011 - 20:35

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MTX 1-04 KIN

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MTX 1-03. Artist Vaclav Kral

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MTX 1-01. Artist Vaclav Kral

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Svazarm Junior. Artist unknown.

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ESO-500 F2. Artist unknown. Possibly a variation of the 'Kral' moniker? (don't call me Moniker)

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Posted 10 June 2011 - 20:40

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Experimental Safety Car. Circa 1970. Artist unknown

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RAF 86 Artist unknown, possibly Rames.

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Skoda F3. Artist Vaclav Kral

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Tatra Monopost.

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Posted 10 June 2011 - 20:43

Has a section of the thread recently been consumed by earthquake or something?

#9196 macoran

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Posted 10 June 2011 - 21:21

Here's a cutaway of the Lola Mk 6 GT by Gordon Bruce.

Welcome Embers, as well as the other new posters, you guys are adding good stuff.
Embers, you have a very good eye for detail, it's what we like over here !

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Posted 10 June 2011 - 21:27

Has a section of the thread recently been consumed by earthquake or something?

Yeah Mark it all fell in a big hole in the ground
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#9198 werks prototype

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Posted 10 June 2011 - 21:41

Yeah Mark it all fell in a big hole in the ground
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:p


I've read back a bit now, I'm afraid I was guilty of skimming a bit there.

Those sinkholes are weird though, especially that Guatemala City example. Lets just say it's extremely circular.

Someone, somewhere is clearly testing an energy weapon! :stoned:


#9199 Tony Matthews

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Posted 10 June 2011 - 22:36

Someone, somewhere is clearly testing an energy weapon! :stoned:

Yeah, sorry about that! You too, Guatamala - I had an itchy trigger finger!

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#9200 werks prototype

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Posted 10 June 2011 - 22:48

Yeah, sorry about that! You too, Guatamala - I had an itchy trigger finger!


That's no excuse. What with the crop circles as well, appearing left, right and centre, you are making a right mess with that damn thing!