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#9851 werks prototype

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Posted 28 August 2011 - 08:29

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Renault RE20. Artist, Patrick Grace/E.T.A.I. France.

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Renault RE20-30 Intercooler Installation. Artist, E.T.A.I. France.

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Renault RE20 Turbocharger Intercooler installation. Artist, E.T.A.I. France.

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Posted 28 August 2011 - 08:29

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1983 Renault RE40. Artist, Giorgio Piola.

#9853 Tony Matthews

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Posted 28 August 2011 - 08:39

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Triumph Dolomite. Artist Max Millar.

Lovely car, lovely drawing. If you rear-ended anyone in a Triumph Dolomite they would disappear in a shower of Castrol. Three gallon oil reservoir, for goodness sake!

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Posted 28 August 2011 - 09:21

Lovely car, lovely drawing. If you rear-ended anyone in a Triumph Dolomite they would disappear in a shower of Castrol. Three gallon oil reservoir, for goodness sake!


:) I think the oil reservoir was one of those special 'Elektron' jobs. (I do take your point though).

The car was concentration of exotica, I think. A special nickel steel frame. Hiduminium castings. Elektron tanks and steering box. Nitrogen-hardened iron cylinder barrels with a fuel system of armoured Petroflex tubing!



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Posted 28 August 2011 - 21:50

Something......something.....audefoy?

Or

Something......somethingau....defoy?

Is this any help? (It must be, surely)


Cleared it right up, werks. Thanks ...
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Posted 28 August 2011 - 22:47

Cleared it right up, werks. Thanks ...
Tom Something something ST
:)


:)

I did have a proper look as well.

But to no avail! :up:

(Someone will crack it)

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Posted 29 August 2011 - 05:42

Cleared it right up, werks. Thanks ...
Tom Something something ST
:)


looks like 'Gaudefroy'. A quick google search shows that Jean-Henri Gaudefroy is the author of a book on 'La perspective dans le dessin technique' published in 1970 - see here: http://www.rocbo.lau....php?article429 Could it be our man?

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Posted 29 August 2011 - 06:18

looks like 'Gaudefroy'. A quick google search shows that Jean-Henri Gaudefroy is the author of a book on 'La perspective dans le dessin technique' published in 1970 - see here: http://www.rocbo.lau....php?article429 Could it be our man?


Think you might have solved the puzzle for us. Thanks for the extra effort. i was not coming up with anything close, so really did not think to try partial words or anything, and I was missing Gaudefroy by a mile.
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Posted 29 August 2011 - 07:27

looks like 'Gaudefroy'. A quick google search shows that Jean-Henri Gaudefroy is the author of a book on 'La perspective dans le dessin technique' published in 1970 - see here: http://www.rocbo.lau....php?article429 Could it be our man?

Well done! I couldn't decide if the initial letter was a 'G' or an 'S', and Googled Saudefoy, only to get a load of gibberish. At that point I gave it a rest... I think you deserve the Legion d'Honneur, mon brave, and a flower-strewn cavalcade up the Champs Elysees, then back down again.

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Posted 29 August 2011 - 17:48

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Brabham-Ford BT49. Artist, Giorgio Piola.

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Brabham BT52, 1983. Artist, Giorgio Piola.

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Posted 29 August 2011 - 17:49

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1982 Marlboro McLaren Int'l MP4. Artist, Giorgio Piola.

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Posted 29 August 2011 - 17:49

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1985 McLaren MP4-2B. Artist, Bent Sorensen.

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McLaren MP4-4-Honda, general overview. Artist, Bent Sorensen.

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McLaren MP4-4-Honda, basic view of chassis components. Artist, Bent Sorensen.

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McLaren MP4-4-Honda, simplified view of aerodynamic layout. Artist, Bent Sorensen.

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Posted 30 August 2011 - 02:59

This should get everyone's juices flowing.......

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Posted 30 August 2011 - 14:19

This should get everyone's juices flowing.......

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Thanks for the link, helioseism! :up: :up: :up:

#9865 werks prototype

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Posted 30 August 2011 - 15:00

This should get everyone's juices flowing.......

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:) I can imagine that will!

Edit: I have had my eye on the Wimpffen book (Elva: The Cars, The People, The History) for a while now too.

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Posted 30 August 2011 - 20:03

This should get everyone's juices flowing.......

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Kimble !!
surprising number of what look like his work appearing on the Russian thread !!

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Posted 30 August 2011 - 20:04

This should get everyone's juices flowing.......

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Not only the juices - the cash as well! Thanks, Malcolm

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Posted 31 August 2011 - 12:24

Ferrari 166mm by F.W Beak ,i think;see the 166 page 159 ,the chassis and the motor are identical
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Posted 31 August 2011 - 19:41

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Lotus 99T-Honda, simplified layout of active suspension. Artist, Bent Sorensen.

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Williams FW11B-Honda, simplified layout of reactive suspension. Artist, Bent Sorensen.

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Posted 31 August 2011 - 19:42

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Honda Accord LS. Artist, Richard Burgess.

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Posted 31 August 2011 - 19:42

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TVR Speed 12 GT1. Artist, Richard Burgess.

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Posted 31 August 2011 - 21:24

You were not accused of anything. (Under your alter ego of 'calandarman') you were asked if the artwork on your site was all done by you. You replied in the affirmative, and your answer was accepted unreservedly. Here is the relevant exchange:

I just have to chime in here since my name was being used. I was inundated with requests from this guy to print my art on calenders and related crap. I was simply trying to find out if this guy was an artist or a calender company or what? That was all. And no you can't print my art.

#9873 Tim Murray

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Posted 31 August 2011 - 21:37

Thanks for the clarification. This is the second time that he has made false allegations against members of this forum, individually or collectively. It's a great shame, because if he was only willing to contribute positively, he would be a great asset to the cutaways community. :well:

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Posted 31 August 2011 - 22:15

Thanks for the clarification. This is the second time that he has made false allegations against members of this forum, individually or collectively. It's a great shame, because if he was only willing to contribute positively, he would be a great asset to the cutaways community. :well:

He himself contributed his Lotus 97T to the forum, then removed it
I will not criticize Ibsen for his diligence, but the post Lotus 97T by Mick Hill sjould be removed from the Index

#9875 Tony Matthews

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Posted 31 August 2011 - 22:18

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Honda Accord LS. Artist, Richard Burgess.

A substantial amount of guesswork going on there, I would suggest.

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Posted 31 August 2011 - 22:56

A substantial amount of guesswork going on there, I would suggest.

who am I to criticise/criticyse/criticize/criticyze...pff difficult word
but them driveshafts don't look like being them real ones for me


#9877 TWest

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Posted 01 September 2011 - 01:57

Denizens of Cutawayland,
I am not sure why that turmoil keeps bubbling up, but it seems obvious that Mr. Hill doesn't think that having his work included in the most extensive archive of technical art of which I am aware. His right and his loss. Anything else that gets into a he-said/he-said is just a bit disruptive, and they should take it elsewhere. We don't need everyone throwing gas on the flames.
Of course, I suppose I just sort of did that, didn't I?
So, by way of a bit of restitution, i am going to present two Oldsmobile cutaways for your dining and dancing pleasure.
OK, it isn't much in compensation, but neither were ever done elsewhere that I am aware.
I start with the big 1990 Oldsmobile, the full-sized B-bodied behemoth that would have been used for old folks in Florida, mainly because all that metal made them feel safer ... Sure could cause a mess running over a bus stop from what i have seen, however. Some guy drove a car through the Santa Monica Farmer's Market, speeding up. That really scrambled the area pretty quickly, too.
Ah, the memories out of the automotive past.
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Posted 01 September 2011 - 02:01

We add our second offering to the Oldsmobile gods ... both of these having been Haynes manual covers by Terry Davey ... sorry for not having mentioned that in my crash and burn comments on the first Olds.
This one is the 1980 Olds Cutlass, one of the best selling nameplates of the time. They used to switch between the Pontiac and Buick A-bodied cars for sales leadership during quite a stretch. Not the most innovative or spectacular cars ever built, but they were comfortable ... and smaller than a gunboat, so they were considered to be a sacrifice to room on the road ... everyone felt good and GM was fat and happy.
Think they got over that fairly quickly ...
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Posted 01 September 2011 - 08:22

who am I to criticise/criticyse/criticize/criticyze...pff difficult word
but them driveshafts don't look like being them real ones for me


I was about to write:
...and the driveshafts of that TVR don't look much better.
Then I noticed that the car is RWD. So that must be the steering. D-OOH!

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A car like this with a T-Top? Really?

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Posted 01 September 2011 - 10:50

Holden 48 215 1949 by a new artist:Riche
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Posted 01 September 2011 - 13:04

Two news works, aircraft modifications cutaways TheDassault Mirage F-1B start from Mirage F-1C, author unknow published in the book "An Illustrated Anatomy of the World's Fighters" and North American XF-107 start from work Aviagraphica F-100 cutaway of the "Enciclopedia Ilustrada de la AviaciĆ³n", none this fighter aircraft to haved cutaway drawing, modified by Motocar.

Dassault Mirage F-1B Cutaway

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North American XF-107 (Mockup) Cutaway

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Posted 01 September 2011 - 16:27

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Excelsior Spryt engine (As used by the Corgi). Artist unknown.

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Corgi Motorcycle Co Ltd, Civilian Corgi. Artist unknown.

The Welbike design emanated from 'Station IX'. The 'Corgi' is the civilian version of the Welbike. The Welbike was designed by John Dolphin and Harry Lester, essentially to provide the Parachute Regiment with an 'expendable means of rapid movement on landing'. It is definitely worth trying to track down a photograph of the Welbike, complete with drop container, in the hands (literally) and/or pockets, of British Army paratroopers. Apparently, it was a 'Wobbler'.

Eventually a 'sidecar' option was even made available to the civilian version. :eek:

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Posted 01 September 2011 - 16:30

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Triumph 2000. Artist unknown.

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Triumph 1,998cc engine (As used in the 2000). Artist unknown.

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Posted 01 September 2011 - 22:56

Holden 48 215 1949 by a new artist:Riche
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Great image, thanks... we have seen Riche once before (post 8281, page 208 - 1952 HWM F2)
Below is another image Riche image - Velocette motorcycle engine - 1939 KTT (not the one on page 223)
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Posted 02 September 2011 - 01:50

I was about to write:
...and the driveshafts of that TVR don't look much better.
Then I noticed that the car is RWD. So that must be the steering. D-OOH!



A car like this with a T-Top? Really?


I believe that would have been correct for their "sport" model .. if you don't mind not stopping all that well, being underopowered and overweight, and very little cornering ability. Other than that, those suckers were pretty racy.
This would have been the same body style as the Hurst Olds, which was built on this plan.
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Posted 02 September 2011 - 18:48

Lionheart drawn by Chris Bladon

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This "Budweiser Rocket" lookalike from the mid 80's was the Bill Fredrick designed car that it was hoped would not only break the sound barrier, but would go on to achieve 1000mph, this drawing is from the Peter J.R. Holthusen book "The Land Speed Record, To The Sound Barrier And Beyond" the author was also the proposed driver.

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Posted 02 September 2011 - 20:19

if you don't mind not stopping all that well, being underpowered and overweight, and very little cornering ability.

I've seen people like that...


Lionheart drawn by Chris Bladon

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This "Budweiser Rocket" lookalike from the mid 80's was the Bill Fredrick designed car that it was hoped would not only break the sound barrier, but would go on to achieve 1000mph, this drawing is from the Peter J.R. Holthusen book "The Land Speed Record, To The Sound Barrier And Beyond" the author was also the proposed driver.

Thanks tb, I have always been very interested in the LSR vehicles, but as illustrations, the long thin ones are a bit disappointing, especially for someone who wanted to FILL THE PAGE with stuff!

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Posted 02 September 2011 - 21:38

the long thin ones are a bit disappointing,


Maybe Tom saw a short fat one at Bonneville recently ?

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Posted 02 September 2011 - 23:27

Maybe Tom saw a short fat one at Bonneville recently ?



Good call, T.
I shot photos on the Tom Hanna-built Maro Special, a blown fuel line for Bobbie Moore. They got it up over 300, and broke the shaft on the Bob Creitz engine that acted as the drive for the fuel and oil pumps. Rather an essential piece generally. Creitz just passed away this week, to make note of the connection. The 309 or so was about as fast as they got, although George Poteet got his 'liner (called Speed Demon) up to around 429, but was not able to back it up. Think they actually did better with it last year, in the 430s if I remember. The record, for interest, stays with Al Teague, long-time Flats racer with his new record of 416 of a couple of years back.
All of this is wheel-driven, of course. There were no thrust cars in attendance this year.
I did not really do my normal coverage of every car in the facility because my hip was really being nasty, so I was probably lucky to do the shoots with the two cars that I did for my cutaways. The third will be shot down here in a couple of weeks, maybe 20 minutes from my office. And I drove up to Utah to do this stuff.
Got something like 300+ shots of the Hanna car, and a few less on the rear-engined Modified Roadster. We did do a shoot with that car out on the salt with the 16-year old granddaughter of the guy who commissioned me to do the illustration ... nothing crazy. Her mother was actually shooting over my shoulder and told me that she was amazed at what I was doing (in a good way) .. had to at least have one shoot with a female involved ...
On the Rocket cars, I had done a complete shoot on the track at Orange County International (major drag strip out here) of the drag version of the Courage of Australia, also a Bill Frederick project. The big LSR version never really did anything, if I remember. Frederick followed with the Budweiser car, which did set the record. We had set up to do a modelkit on the thing, prototyped it and introduced it for Toy Fair around 1981 or so. We set up with Frederick to go shoot the car out in the San Fernando Valley, he kept it at his house out in the North Valley, which seemed a little strange for a car that long. We got there after he told us that the car was all there ... which it was. He just neglected to tell us that it was in boxes. We had wanted to do it with access panels so you could see all of the components and that sort of thing, as a model of a red cigar with a stabilizer was probably going to have limited appeal. There was nothing that we could do with what he had for us, unfortunately, as it would have made an interesting project for a cutaway, if a bit small for the detail bits.
Wonder if this might even be the same chassis that was used on that car. It can't be all that much different, can it?
By the way, we had the Prototype in the Hobby show in Anaheim to introduce it, and that show always fell on Super Bowl weekend. The only people left on the floor of the show was sales guys who were required to hang with their booths. So ... I thought that we would have a little fun, so I brought over one of the models who was with another group (Super Glue, if I remember correctly). She had been Miss Nude USA in some contest or other, so I put her into a rather small but conformal top, with a really cheesy saying about our modelkit brand (MPC). I think the sales guys felt much better after that.
As an aside, just to show that the world of cutaways is not as boring as most people think ... while we were doing our photographs (including the one that everyone remembers of her posing the car as if she was going to put that long red rocket in her mouth ...), one of the guys grabbed her T-shirt out of our Video booth where she changed. When she came out and very sweetly told me that she was going to get in trouble for losing her shirt, not easy to explain at a Hobby Show, I went directly to the guy that i knew had done it. I gave him some incentive to bring it back, no questions asked, and, Voila, about three minutes later I told her to go see if it had been replaced, which it had.
Go to about six months later, my bribe to get her shirt back was some prints of her in the booth. Sent it to the sales guy, who would jump just about any female within reach, with this one being probably the only one he got close to that he didn't do anything with. He was carrying them around in his briefcase ... and, his wife needed something out of his Checkbook, going into the briefcase to find it. He returned home from tennis or whatever to find his briefcase open, and with about a dozen color prints of Miss Nude USA whatever torn up and thrown around on the floor of his office. The next contact that he had from her was actually her lawyer contacting him to say that she was filing for divorce ... and, for the only woman that he hadn't made a play for ...
Irony, eh?
You guys didn't know that the modelkit business was so exciting, did you?
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Posted 03 September 2011 - 02:56

It has been a long time since I posted, but do not think that I have not been appreciating the contributions of others. I did have something meaningful to add. A company called "The Motorsports Collector", is offering for sale a new book entitled....drum roll.. "Cutaway: the Automotive Art of David Kimball". I believe they are signed copies of a new book to debut in October. I am pretty certain that if you search the internet that company will be pretty easy to find.

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Posted 03 September 2011 - 06:06

I am pretty certain that if you search the internet that company will be pretty easy to find.

... or use the link posted by Helioseism in post 9868.

#9892 Tony Matthews

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Posted 03 September 2011 - 08:13

You guys didn't know that the modelkit business was so exciting, did you?
Tom West

Nice post, Tom!

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Posted 03 September 2011 - 11:19

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Posted 03 September 2011 - 11:20

Another set of Tatra drawings.

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Tatra, plan views. Artist unknown.

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Posted 03 September 2011 - 11:21

And another couple of Triumph 'lumps'.

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Triumph 2500TC engine. Artist, T.J.Loakes.

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Triumph Stag V8 engine. Artist, T.J.Loakes.

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Posted 03 September 2011 - 18:49

Nice post, Tom!



Thank-you, Tony. Beware of me when I am in an expansive mood. I can use up a bit of bandwidth with stories like that. Note how I am able to combine beautiful and less-than-fully clothed women with modelkits or technical illustration. Keeps both a bit fresher, don't you think?
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Posted 03 September 2011 - 19:53

We obviously have similar quantities of testosterone circulating, Tom.

Edited by Tony Matthews, 03 September 2011 - 20:03.


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Posted 04 September 2011 - 17:38

We obviously have similar quantities of testosterone circulating, Tom.



You have seen my Profile on that other mass-market Social Network, so I must assume that there is a bit of crossover interest.
I must say that I had never quite put it into that unique context ... never thought about your testosterone, to be honest.
Just recognize a kindred spirit when I see one ...
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Posted 05 September 2011 - 04:57

Thought that it was about time to throw in a couple of aircraft pieces, so I have two from the latest issues of Aeroplane. The first is from the September, 2011 issue, but was originally published in the September 28, 1945 issue of the magazine. This is the Blackburn Firebrand TF.IV Torpedo bomber. The version represented in the Leslie Cresswell illustration is the second Centaurus-engined version, which replaced the troubled Napier Sabre version. Never was considered to be a particular success in service.
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Posted 05 September 2011 - 05:00

Our second Aeroplane offering for the evening is the high-altitude fighter, the Westland Welkin F.1. From the August, 2011 issue, this Mike Badrocke illustration is very clean, and typical of that Badrocke style. Developed toward the end of World War II, the Welkin was going obsolete more quickly than its problems were overcome, so it never did enter service except for testing.
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