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#51 alansart

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Posted 18 December 2007 - 12:06

Originally posted by Bonde
Brilliant, Alan!

Are you still on talking terms with your Mother, though?

Just out of curiousity, what racing car-related cutaways had you done?


Unfortunately my mother died many years ago, but we always had a good relationship :)

Most of my racing stuff was for my own personal use. I was racing F750 in early 80's and produced views of Dick Harvey's F750 Darvi. I was in a bit of a rut with my job at the time and was looking to go Freelance, so this and some sections of my own car were going were going to be used as bit of self promotion. I ended getting work in Germany (like Andrew Kitson) so my own stuff was put on the backburner.

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#52 rbm

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Posted 18 December 2007 - 15:45

Back in an earlier life I worked as a design draughtsman working in the defence industry. By my time we were using the CADDS 4x system, to produce wire frame models and intern the drawings from them. I remember producing a model and from it an iso view of a self propelled howitzer that looked similar to Alan’s tank - it was made up of just over 75000 entities (individual lines curves etc.) it took a very very long time.

#53 TooTall

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Posted 18 December 2007 - 16:27

I was also trained in technical illustration and worked in the US aerospace industry since 1978. Part of my coursework in college was airbrush illustration taught by a wonderful fellow named Sol Dember. Below is a piece I did as a semester project. The original is color, 20x30 inches, airbrushed watercolor on illustration board. It took me a very long time to complete. The basis for the work was a line drawing cutaway from a softcover book I had called "Ferrari Mondial". My instructor entered it in a state competition and it ended up with the top prize for student work.

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All of my professional work was in aerospace and I have no examples. Any work you did belonged to the company and they did not let you take anything home! In 1984, the company I worked for bought a computer system to do illustration and I ended up as the system manager. I have been in computers ever since. I do miss the pen and straightedge and still have most of my old tools. I keep thinking when i have the time I will take it up again for fun.

When I was working at North American Rockwell in the '80s, they cleaned out the tech library and were throwing away bins of old documents. Some of us who were enthusiasts saved some of the good stuff and then got a sympathetic manager to write us removal passes to get it home. One of the pieces I ended up with was a pilots handbook for an early P51 Mustang which included this wonderful cutaway.
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#54 alansart

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Posted 18 December 2007 - 17:06

Originally posted by TooTall
My instructor entered it in a state competition and it ended up with the top prize for student work.

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Very good :)

I do miss the pen and straightedge and still have most of my old tools. I keep thinking when i have the time I will take it up again for fun.


So do I. The computer stuff is just not the same :(

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Although if you make a mistake it can be easily corrected. I still try and get the old airbrush out occasionally. In fact I'm just about to do a friends helmet :)

I once painted a cutaway on the side of my car!

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#55 Bloggsworth

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Posted 18 December 2007 - 22:28

Originally posted by alansart



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Posted 19 December 2007 - 01:20

Originally posted by Arjan de Roos
Other favorites of me include also Cavara and G. Gedo. Does anyone have more info on them?



The Cavara soft cover book Raggi X now goes for about $500 IF you can find a copy!

#57 mariner

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Posted 19 December 2007 - 19:30

I too grew up on those great cutaways

Several people have mentioned the aero influence, Flight International has created a special archive here

http://www.flightglo...s/cutaways.html

It is a real treasure trove.

#58 alansart

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Posted 19 December 2007 - 19:39

Originally posted by mariner
It is a real treasure trove.


That's an understatement :)

Do any of the car mags have a similar archive.

About 15 years ago I coloured old cutaways for Classic Cars. They sent me black and white prints and I airbrushed colour over the top. The old drawings must exist somewhere.

#59 macoran

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Posted 19 December 2007 - 20:00

Originally posted by mariner
It is a real treasure trove.



Now why did you post that ???
I'll be wanting a 5 foot monitor for Christmas !!!

Brilliant stuff ! thanks for the link :up:

I am glad I still have my collection of Airplane by De Agostini, A4 threefold
colour cutaway in every issue.

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#60 macoran

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Posted 19 December 2007 - 20:25

Originally posted by dretceterini



The Cavara soft cover book Raggi X now goes for about $500 IF you can find a copy!


I hope so !!, mine has been in consignment to sell for a while.

#61 dretceterini

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Posted 20 December 2007 - 01:44

Originally posted by macoran


I hope so !!, mine has been in consignment to sell for a while.



OK, I'll bite. How much will you take for it, including air shipment to the US?

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Posted 20 December 2007 - 01:44

The James Allington Shell Oil 1967 LeMans posters were still available a couple of years ago, here's a link
http://www.autotrend.com/7010.html I bought a set in '67 that eventually got water damaged. My wife bought me a new set using this link. The new set looks like the originals, not a knockoff copy. To me these drawings are great art treasures. Merry Christmas!

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Posted 20 December 2007 - 13:36

What a great thread - I'm a big fan of exacting cutaway art - though it's Bob Freeman's drawings that are my favourites. I bought a print from him a few years back of a beautiful Jaguar V12 engine. We exchanged a few emails and I suggested that a book of his work would be fantastic. I have a nice leaflet that came with Supercar Classics that has lots of images and talks about his early life. It's a pity he's gone.

I had a play around with a 917 blueprint once - to see if I could combine it with a painterly rendering of the bodywork - I'm ashamed to say that I did use one of them new-fangled computerators...

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#64 alansart

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Posted 20 December 2007 - 15:30

Originally posted by smarjoram
What a great thread - I'm a big fan of exacting cutaway art - though it's Bob Freeman's drawings that are my favourites. I bought a print from him a few years back of a beautiful Jaguar V12 engine. We exchanged a few emails and I suggested that a book of his work would be fantastic. I have a nice leaflet that came with Supercar Classics that has lots of images and talks about his early life. It's a pity he's gone.


Bob Freeman was a genius! I had a part time lecturer called Jack Crawley who had a similar skill and style.

Some of Freeman's work is herehttp://www.bobfreema...ent/gallery.asp

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Posted 22 February 2008 - 22:46

I found this very cool and informative thread looking for info on the art of Tony Matthews. Does anyone know if there is a way to contact him about his archive of cutaway art? While I am here I will attach a link of my own site: http://www.hatchillu....com/index.html How do I attach images?

Thanks,
Jim

#66 macoran

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Posted 22 February 2008 - 23:42

Cool stuff there Jim

take a look here about posting, else hook someone and mail them to post for you :D

http://forums.autosp...&threadid=70638

#67 macoran

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Posted 22 February 2008 - 23:46

Originally posted by markmanroe
The James Allington Shell Oil 1967 LeMans posters were still available a couple of years ago, here's a link
http://www.autotrend.com/7010.html I bought a set in '67 that eventually got water damaged. My wife bought me a new set using this link. The new set looks like the originals, not a knockoff copy. To me these drawings are great art treasures. Merry Christmas!


Yes those are great, managed to get a hold of a 67 copy of Car & Driver at a market stall in Bangkok.
Had to scan and repair the centre divide to get good prints for my hobby room. But they are GREAT !!!

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Posted 24 February 2008 - 16:50

[i]Originally posted by 1996900sp How do I attach images? Thanks, Jim [/B]

In post 351 of this thread Ray Bell has given idiot proof instructions, which work
http://forums.autosp...y=&pagenumber=9
best of luck
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Posted 25 February 2008 - 00:24

Originally posted by macoran
Just a list of the cutaway artists I have works of in my collection.

Serge Bellu

Interesting that you list 'Serge Bellu', but not Jean-Jacques François.

One of my favourite cutaways (of a Ferrari 330P4 - goes without saying :rolleyes: ) appears in one of Serge Bellu's books - uncredited:

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It took me a little while to find out who the actual artist was .... until I purchased some back copies of the defunct French magazine, Auto Passion (issues 113 and 133) - where it was also published and credited to (dessin) Jean-Jacques François:

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#70 macoran

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Posted 25 February 2008 - 01:30

Originally posted by P4Replica
Interesting that you list 'Serge Bellu', but not Jean-Jacques François.


Quite right you are !!
I had only listed cutaways I had as complete "poster" size ones.
I haven't even got finished to looking at all the cutaways from magazine articles.
I should have this series of Auto Passion somewhere.

Nothing near as good, but you may appreciate this rendering from a teenaged macoran
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the same nr 21

#71 P4Replica

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Posted 25 February 2008 - 02:18

Originally posted by macoran
I should have this series of Auto Passion somewhere.

Scans of the missing issue #113 should be in your email inbox by now, Marc.;)

Originally posted by macoran
Nothing near as good, but you may appreciate this rendering from a teenaged macoran .... the same nr 21

Very good indeed, considering it was drawn by a 'teenaged macoran'. :up:

In fact, Marc - I had your drawing 'on file' already. :cool:
Seems that fellow P4 enthusiast Staffan Berggren (who frequents the T.N.F. far more regularly than I do :blush: ) ....
must have emailed me a link to it, some time ago - from when you possibly posted it on here, somewhere previously. :confused:

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Posted 25 February 2008 - 09:54

Many thanks P4Replica :up:

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Posted 25 February 2008 - 10:23

As mentioned earlier in the thread, we shouldn't overlook the (often anonymous) cutaway artists who graced the pages of The Motor and The Autocar during the Fifties. The drawings they produced - often against tight time-schedules for a new model launch - were often much more informative than a mere photograph could be. We'd better not get into the discussion of whether the readership then was more capable of digesting such information than today's audience ...

As for current cutaway artists, we surely can't ignore Shin Yoshikawa who not only concentrates on the 'right sort of cars' (my interpretation!) but also has the knack of making the factually correct look beautiful. He now has a website http://www.kaiartintl.com/ (usual disclaimers, just a more-than-satisfied customer of his work).

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Posted 25 February 2008 - 15:56

Originally posted by macoran


Yes those are great, managed to get a hold of a 67 copy of Car & Driver at a market stall in Bangkok.
Had to scan and repair the centre divide to get good prints for my hobby room. But they are GREAT !!!


Which Issue of C&D ?

Thank you,

Ross

#75 macoran

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Posted 25 February 2008 - 19:44

Originally posted by rl1856


Which Issue of C&D ?

Thank you,

Ross


I have been digitalizing my magazine library, and have got ridden of a couple of hundred kilos
of paper recently, so I don't have the original any longer. I only scanned in the cutaways,
not the whole pages, so I cannot refer.
I think it was the 1967 Yearbook

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Posted 27 February 2008 - 11:13

Marc.
Further to our offline discussions, I found another cutaway of a Ferrari P4:

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It was published (uncredited) in an article by Geoff Willoughby in the Winter 1976/77 issue of UK Ferrari Owners' Club magazine.

Although it was printed in that article in B&W, from the overall style, I'd suspect it was copied from a Bruno Betti colour illustration - previously published in Quattroruote magazine, presumably. :confused:

Anybody got a better (colour) version, or can confirm my suspicions about the artist ?

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Posted 27 February 2008 - 21:12

Originally posted by P4Replica
Marc.
Further to our offline discussions, I found another cutaway of a Ferrari P4:

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It was published (uncredited) in an article by Geoff Willoughby in the Winter 1976/77 issue of UK Ferrari Owners' Club magazine.

Although it was printed in that article in B&W, from the overall style, I'd suspect it was copied from a Bruno Betti colour illustration - previously published in Quattroruote magazine, presumably. :confused:

Anybody got a better (colour) version, or can confirm my suspicions about the artist ?


Bruno Betti's were usually much more detailed, even though the pic legend credits him, I wonder if it
really is a B.Betti. It must have been a weekend doodle he did .
Could even be one of his brother's, but gosh I'll have to dig up the attic really deep !!!

Anyway places it above the Cavara rendering in my ranking, maybe on par with Yoshikawa

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Posted 28 February 2008 - 08:55

Originally posted by macoran


Bruno Betti's were usually much more detailed, even though the pic legend credits him, I wonder if it
really is a B.Betti.

That was just my captioning of the image, based on supposition. Marc.;)

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Posted 17 March 2008 - 12:28

What a wonderful thread!

I'd like to add another British name to the list, Terry Collins. He started as an army cartographer, later worked for Hayward & Martin and then found himself at the famous Temple Press Ltd where he did drawings for Motor Cycling and The Motor. Since 1965 Collins acted as a freelancer, although his name is often linked with Ford Europe because it was he who drew most of the ghosted pics for them. I think he produced cutaways of all the Benetton-Fords from 1987-1994 period. Maybe Stewart-Fords too? I don't know.
In 1996 I (a schoolboy then) saw colour drawings of Michael Schumacher's Benetton-Ford B193B and Miki Biasion's Ford Escort Cosworth XR3i, both made by Collins. This was apparently not the first time that I saw a cutaway drawing, but the first that impressed me so much. It wouldn't be exaggeration to say that those artworks made me understand what lies behind the ''technical aesthetics'' term.
Now Terry would be just under 70. I contacted Ford PR department to learn more of his fate but they appear to be less informed than me...

This is the last Terry's drawing I'm aware of, the 1994 Benetton-Ford B194 of Michael Schumacher.

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#80 Pavel Lifintsev

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Posted 17 March 2008 - 12:30

A few more names of the cutaway artists:
Harold Bubb (The Motor)
Dick Ellis (The Autocar)
Patrick Grace (E.T.A.I.)
Lofthouse (The Motor)
Robert J. Roux (Matra)
R. J. Way (The Motor)

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Posted 17 March 2008 - 13:15

Mark Whitelock's book 1 1/2 litre Grand Prix Racing 1961-1965 has a lot of Cutaway Drawings of the Grand Prix Cars and Engines they raced then!!
Great book!
PcH

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Posted 20 March 2008 - 01:46

Can anybody help me with known cut-away of Goldenrod drawn by C.O. LaTourette. I am researching multi engined LSR and drag cars

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Posted 20 March 2008 - 03:54

KB: Is this it?

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Posted 20 March 2008 - 04:21

Originally posted by helioseism
KB: Is this it?


Frank I had found that particular one earlier, thank you. However the detail is lost when I expand the illustration. Because I am very interested in how Summers Bros connected to the transfer cases running down the left side as the engines are inline on the right. So I'm seeking a drawing in more explicit detail.

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Posted 20 March 2008 - 06:14

KB - Have you seen this site ? The photo section has a shot (#5) of one of the transmissions, and a picture looking backwards at the chassis without engines in it (#7). The caption for #7 describes the drive train layout.

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Posted 20 March 2008 - 06:51

Frank, Thanks that certainly puts me a lot further ahead than this morning. Simple in concept though the engineering side must have caused a few sleepless nights. :)

#87 Tom Johnson

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Posted 03 June 2008 - 01:50

Hi,

I just came accross the discussions on technical Artists and thought I'd introduce myself. I have been working with illustrator David Kimble for 19 years but will soon break out on my own. I did an air-brush cutaway of Wilbur Shaw's 1939 Maserati 8CTF Indy car and will soon do the 1957 Maserati 250F. Also recently did a cutaway of the Pitts Model 12 bi-plane.

I have been working in the commercial field mainly but want to give a go at doing technical cutaways (all by hand) as more of a fine art endeavor. Just have to see if there will be enough interest in such an adventure to make it work.

I want to post a sample of my work but can't figure out how to do it. Any suggestions??? Excuse my ignorance but I'm pretty green on this computer stuff.


Cheers,

Tom

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Posted 03 June 2008 - 02:07

Whoops! I just replied to the thread you started.

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#89 bradbury west

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Posted 03 June 2008 - 08:59

Originally posted by Tom Johnson
I want to post a sample of my work but can't figure out how to do it. Any suggestions??? Excuse my ignorance but I'm pretty green on this computer stuff.Cheers,Tom [/B]

Tom, with the directions given by the ever-patient TNFer Ray Bell in post 351 on this thread
http://forums.autosp...y=&pagenumber=9
you cannot go wrong. So easy even I can use it.. They also appear elsewhere on other threads
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#90 Tom Johnson

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Posted 07 June 2008 - 16:57

I was going through my closet and found some prints that may be of interest to people. They all came in a package and are prints of racing subjects by artists Inimoto, Peter Helck & Walter Gotschke. They are all 14" X 20". The set isn't complete but what is there is very nice. Anyone interested?

Cheers, Tom

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Posted 07 June 2008 - 17:28

Don't know if this has been mentioned before, but the British boys' paper, Eagle, had lots of good cutaways of road and race cars in the late 50's. "Fisher" was the artist on the race cars, eg, Auto Union, Cooper Monaco, and others that I still have, while Roy Cross did some road cars. I just had a quick glance, so don't know if there were other artists involved too.

Vince H.

#92 Tony Matthews

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Posted 05 September 2008 - 17:50

A big shout going out, as an annoying youth used to say on Capitol Radio, to all of you who have commented on technical illustration, particularly regarding competition cars - all very interesting. I'm also happy to announce that , yes, I am still alive, living in Hitchin, Herts, U.K., just finishing a kitchen and bathroom extension for a customer, still got 90% of my artwork, including all the Motoring News stuff, when I have more time I will re-read your comments and if necessary answer any queries. I am surprised to find that, fired by so many positive comments about the art, I am still passionate about it. TTFN

#93 MCS

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Posted 05 September 2008 - 18:01

Wow. Welcome to TNF Tony. You will be very much amongst friends here.

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Posted 05 September 2008 - 18:54

funilly enough, I was clearing a wardrobe out today and found a set of motoring news cutaways from 1972.

approx A3 size, they include Mick Hills Capri, Lola T280, Chevy Cosworth (engine) Tyrell 005, Surtees TS9B and Ferrari 312P - original price £1 for the set.

will try to take a photo of each and post them.

#95 Tony Matthews

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Posted 05 September 2008 - 20:19

That is some rare set you have there, the year before MN released a set of 7 F1 cars (I think it was all F1) in a plastic wallet and magenta insert on which was a vastly enlarged portion of the Lotus 72 cutaway, this also was £1! Yours, I seem to remember, is blue, and was so badly over-inked that I let Mr J W Tee, owner of Teesdale Publishing, (MN,Motor Sport et al) know what I thought, but his response was that they'd sell anyway! Many complaints and refunds later we were left with a pallet-load which probably went to a land-fill.
An American contact told me a few years ago that he was delighted to have found a set (magenta) at the Historic Silverstone Autojumble for ONLY £70. Even I don't have a blue set....

#96 Mistron

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Posted 05 September 2008 - 21:20

That's right, blue cover and in a clear wallet. Funnily enough, I bought them a few years ago from a friend (and automobilia specialist), and I managed to convince him that it would be, if not illegal, certainly unjust to charge me more than the stated price....... :)

I think he also had a set of the '71 drawings, but for some reason I didn't shell out another pound for them (typical scot - £2 in one transaction? easy tiger!) or perhaps he was just trying to make a living.

That might not have been my best move it seems. Oops

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Posted 06 September 2008 - 19:57

Does anyone have access to a copy of the cutaway drawing of the Bugatti T251 GP car, which I believe was published in Auto Italia after the car first appeared ? I am especially interested in the front suspension layout. Any other drawing or diagram of the car's layout would also be welcome.
Roger Lund

#98 Bonde

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Posted 06 September 2008 - 23:13

Can anyone here think of a more fitting artist to grace this thread (and this forum) with his presence than Tony Matthews! I can't!

Welcome to the TNF, Tony!

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Posted 07 September 2008 - 02:25

I have seen Tom Johnson's aircraft work and it is stunning. He did a large color cutaway of the 1932 GeeBee R2 which has been on my office wall for several years. In my opinion it is the equal of David Kimble's Miller cutaway, which is my all-time favorite.
If Tom does more race car work, it will be worth having !

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Posted 07 September 2008 - 03:27

One of my favorites was Laurie Watts.

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