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#10501 smarjoram

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Posted 28 November 2011 - 11:40

Some nice Lockheed Blackbirds here (i particularly like the exploded view)...

http://flaviendachet...1-cutaways.html

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Posted 28 November 2011 - 14:41

I received my copy of "Cutaway: The Automotive Art of David Kimble". Nice book. It reminded me that I prefer black and white line drawings over color. If Kimble is a commercial success some of the group members like Tony and/or Tom should consider a project. Either separately or together.

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Posted 28 November 2011 - 17:06

This is another Haynes cover for the Toyota Celica of 1979 by Terry Davey.
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A friend of my older brother had the 'normal' coupe version of that model when I was a teenager. I spend once some time in the backseat going to a rallye. That car was terrible tight, even for a young kid.

#10504 Tony Matthews

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Posted 28 November 2011 - 17:20

Some nice Lockheed Blackbirds here (i particularly like the exploded view)...

Just goes to show that they couldn't outrun every SAM fired at them!

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Posted 28 November 2011 - 18:11

QUOTE (smarjoram @ Nov 28 2011, 11:40) *
Some nice Lockheed Blackbirds here (i particularly like the exploded view)...

That drawing is from a series of books called "Look Inside Cross - Sections" the illustrations are credited to Chris Grigg and Keith Harmer,
here's some more.
Hawker Tempest V
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Drag Bike
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Dragster
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#10506 werks prototype

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Posted 28 November 2011 - 21:38

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Peugeot 203. Artist, unknown.

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Matchless vertical-twin, four-stroke. Artist, Vic Berris.



#10507 Tony Matthews

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Posted 28 November 2011 - 22:28

That drawing is from a series of books called "Look Inside Cross - Sections" the illustrations are credited to Chris Grigg and Keith Harmer,
here's some more.
Hawker Tempest V
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Drag Bike
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Dragster
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A very useful way of conveying information - I often thought that really I should do several cutaways of one subject to be comprehensive, but this would have been self-indulgent! Also, I liked the challenge of finding one viewpoint that would convey as much info as possible. Not always an option if the client determined that viewpoint! Cutaways, exploded illustrations, hybrids like these, all satisfactory in their way. I think these are slick and colourful, and 'suitable for a childrens' encyclopedia or How Things Work-type book' may sound like faint praise, but I don't mean that at all.

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Posted 29 November 2011 - 01:26

Some odds 'n' ends.

The GM Photo Store site has two cutaways for sale:

1899 Opel Lutzmann
1913 Opel 110 HP Race Car

The August 1989 issue of Popular Mechanics contains a fold-out cutaway poster of a Shelby Mustang GT350 by John Batchelor, according to this e-bay listing (which will disappear in about a week).

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Posted 29 November 2011 - 06:53

[quote name='werks prototype' date='Apr 25 2010, 14:42' post='4313442']

Ford Capri 1969 By Theo Page In its working context
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Here is a more easily usable version - i.e., without the distraction of the lines and annotation
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#10510 simplebrother

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Posted 29 November 2011 - 06:57

I found a few other things while I was searching around for that Nova.
A '56 Ford Thunderbird:
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Here is a larger version, along with the motor that was part of the same brochure...
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#10511 Tony Matthews

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Posted 29 November 2011 - 07:22

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I like the treatment of the vehicle art, simple but effective. The way the whole thing has been made to look shiney and glossy is cool - I used the little 'sunbursts' sometimes, they add a lot to a polished wheel rim or chromed widget, but I used them in moderation, being that sort of 'everything in moderation' type. Somewhere I still have a tube of Winsor & Newton 'Sunburst' gouache. You have to remember to replace the cap firmly or it goes cloudy...

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Posted 29 November 2011 - 16:33

Some odds 'n' ends.

The GM Photo Store site has two cutaways for sale:

1899 Opel Lutzmann
1913 Opel 110 HP Race Car

Like most official Opel cutaways they are done by one of the Betti brothers. Most likely Bruno.
Does anybody have a cutaway or a section of the Lutzmann engine? That is the weirdest thing I've ever read about and still have no clue how it works.

Tony 'being that sort of 'everything in moderation' type' sounds so much like me. :up:

#10513 werks prototype

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Posted 29 November 2011 - 23:39

Some bits 'n' bobs, to follow those odds 'n' ends. (These probably won't be of interest to everyone)

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Turbo-compound. (Curtiss-Wright in-house).

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Turbo-compound, system details. (Curtiss-Wright in-house).

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Turbo-compound. Torquemeter. (Curtiss-Wright in-house).

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Wright Turbo-compound. Artist unknown.

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Posted 29 November 2011 - 23:43

Not a Panavia Tornado dropping a bouncing Whittle.

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Panavia Tornado. Artist unknown.


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Whittle W1. Artist unknown. (Very very lo-res)


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Rolls-Royce Conway, turbofan. R-R In-house.




#10515 werks prototype

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Posted 29 November 2011 - 23:46

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Cyclaid. Artist, A.J.Fooks.

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Cyclemaster. Rear wheel 'clip-on'. Artist, unknown.

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Corgi cartoon (Circa-1948) Artist, Alex Oxley.

#10516 helioseism

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Posted 30 November 2011 - 00:49

Where do you find all this great stuff, Werks?

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Posted 30 November 2011 - 00:55

The Russian cutaway site is back up.

#10518 werks prototype

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Posted 30 November 2011 - 01:42

Where do you find all this great stuff, Werks?


I’m a bit of a bookworm, I think. And looking back, my posts do seem to reflect whatever it is that I am reading at the time.

Having said that, I’ve currently got ‘Sprint. Speed Hillclimbs and Speed Trials in Britain: 1899 – 1925’. By T.R.Nicholson. And ‘From Chain Drive to Turbocharger: The AFN story’ By Denis Jenkinson on the go. And I can tell you, there is barely a mention of the significance of the ‘auto-cycle’ phenomenon in either.


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Posted 30 November 2011 - 01:54

The Russian cutaway site is back up.



Yes, I had noticed that. No idea what happened, but they have gone away before, just never for this long. Actually glad to have them back, as they have a lot of interesting things that they have accumulated there.
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#10520 Tony Matthews

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Posted 30 November 2011 - 06:09

Perhaps they just put another ruble in the meter...

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Posted 30 November 2011 - 16:20

I think this might be a new one - can't find it in the index. Looks like a Ford mustang GTP by Fornander?

http://3.bp.blogspot...no0o2BtFyyB.jpg

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Posted 30 November 2011 - 16:43

I think this might be a new one - can't find it in the index. Looks like a Ford mustang GTP by Fornander?

http://3.bp.blogspot...no0o2BtFyyB.jpg


That car's body looks like a out of proportion Porsche 917/30 coupe.

Found the colour version of it!
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Posted 30 November 2011 - 17:15

Perhaps they just put another ruble in the meter...



Tony,
It just struck me that your post sounds like the title for the world's worst country song ... maybe it would be a Country-Eastern song ...
Just sayin' ...
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#10524 Tony Matthews

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Posted 30 November 2011 - 17:56

Don't start me Tom!

There seem to be two spelling choices, ruble or rouble, and ruble took precedence when I checked, but it doesn't look right! So:-

"Put your sweet lips a little closer to the phone,
I'll put a rouble in the meter, 'cos I'm alone.
I'll put the vodka in a snowdrift by the door,
And Valentina, you'll be mine for ever more..."




#10525 Tony Matthews

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Posted 30 November 2011 - 17:58

Breaker one-nine, looks like we got us a Konvoy!

#10526 TWest

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Posted 30 November 2011 - 19:14

Don't start me Tom!

There seem to be two spelling choices, ruble or rouble, and ruble took precedence when I checked, but it doesn't look right! So:-

"Put your sweet lips a little closer to the phone,
I'll put a rouble in the meter, 'cos I'm alone.
I'll put the vodka in a snowdrift by the door,
And Valentina, you'll be mine for ever more..."



See, I was right ...
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Posted 30 November 2011 - 19:22

See, I was right ...
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I think Tony will be going to bed with his spurs on tonight :)


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Posted 30 November 2011 - 19:31

That'll give Gwendolyn a shock. :eek:

#10529 TWest

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Posted 30 November 2011 - 20:47

I think Tony will be going to bed with his spurs on tonight :)



Somehow, I am sure that the lovely Gwendolyn will appreciate that.
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#10530 Tony Matthews

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Posted 30 November 2011 - 22:24

What with my spurs and Gwendolyn's whale-bone it could be an interesting night ahead in London's busy Mayfair, mews just off... Gwendolyn does enjoy a little role-play, but reserves it for the more coy and inhibited of her lovers, mostly from the Middle East, when tents, date palms and a yashmak can enliven the procedings.

Never sand, though. "Tony, dear, dear Tony, there are some persuites in which sand should play no part whatsoever, as you may have learned to your regret on those dreadful camping holidays in Suffolk that you told me about." "They weren't dreadful, Gwendolyn, just not your thing." "Well, so may it be, Tony dear, but believe me, beyond grinding Hispano Suiza valve seats there is never a need for grit!"

Let us see what the night holds in store...

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Posted 30 November 2011 - 23:36

Some bits 'n' bobs, to follow those odds 'n' ends. (These probably won't be of interest to everyone)


Au contraire, Werks, very much au contraire.
Is that the turbo-compound setup as for the 3350's fitted to Constellations and other a/c ? - I had the idea there was some sort of fluid coupling between the turbo and the drive to crankshaft/supercharger. Happy to be proven wrong, though ... :up:

#10532 werks prototype

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Posted 01 December 2011 - 01:01

Au contraire, Werks, very much au contraire.
Is that the turbo-compound setup as for the 3350's fitted to Constellations and other a/c ? - I had the idea there was some sort of fluid coupling between the turbo and the drive to crankshaft/supercharger. Happy to be proven wrong, though ... :up:


You may wish to feast your eyes upon the following documents, onelung. :up:

http://www.enginehis...-3350Int&Ex.pdf

http://www.enginehis...ht/TC Facts.pdf

Edited by werks prototype, 01 December 2011 - 01:16.


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Posted 01 December 2011 - 23:28

You may wish to feast your eyes upon the following documents, onelung. :up:

http://www.enginehis...-3350Int&Ex.pdf

http://www.enginehis...ht/TC Facts.pdf


In thoroughly appreciating the material therin contained, I have to admit to feeling more than slightly anoraky. Dammit anyway: wonderful stuff, and yes, it makes admirable sense to have the fluid couplings placed after the speed reduction, 16 to 18,000 rpm being just a bit much. BTW, re your autowheel/cyclemaster cutaway - years ago I had one such, and have often referred to it as having by far the highest noise to power ratio I've ever experienced.
Thanks - Geoff.

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Posted 02 December 2011 - 00:27

First for this evening is a Honda/Acura Integra (3rd generation - produced from 1983-2001) and its 4-cylinder, dohc, 1797cc VTEC (B18c) engine. It comes from an article in the 9/1993 edition of Automotive Engineering that was written by Jack Yamaguchi - if the artist is different than the author, he/she is not mentioned.
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Posted 02 December 2011 - 00:33

Next come a series of Volkswagen buses - a 1959 21-window, followed by a 1969 11-window, followed by a 1982 Wesfalia camper
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someone may have larger images to share...
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Posted 02 December 2011 - 00:47

Next is what I believe is a replacement of part of post 4079 (p102) - Jim Hall's original front-engined 1961 Chaparral. The index indicates that entries for it can be found on both pages 96 and 102 - I couldn't find one on pp95-97 (but the 2F that first appeared on p95 appears again on p96) and the images are removed from the post on p102. The first is from its magazine debut, the latter a more sterile version.
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Posted 02 December 2011 - 00:55

Last are a few recent web finds...

1998 Reliant Scimitar SS1 drawn by Paul Willetts
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1953-57 Lloyd LC400 - artist unknown
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General Dynamics F16 Fighting Falcon by Mike Badrocke
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Posted 02 December 2011 - 11:55

http://www.secretpro...ch=143867;image

HMS Queen Elizabeth; more of a sliced model than a cutaway, but interesting.

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Posted 02 December 2011 - 16:18

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Lola GT Mark VI. Artist, Theo Page.

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Lola T70 Spyder. Artist, Theo Page.

Both of these have been posted previously by Ibsen on Pages 45 and 47. Slightly different context here.

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Posted 02 December 2011 - 16:21

http://www.secretpro...ch=143867;image

HMS Queen Elizabeth; more of a sliced model than a cutaway, but interesting.

Paul M


I've seen the sheds in which a 'small' part of this class of ship is currently being constructed at Portsmouth. They are like football stadiums.

I think they have been testing that snazzy radar (And developing the ships low radar signature) for years, as well, atop of Portsdown hill. (That radar testing site has recently been demolished I believe)





http://www.youtube.c...feature=related

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Posted 02 December 2011 - 16:26

BTW, re autowheel/cyclemaster cutaway - years ago I had one such, and have often referred to it as having by far the highest noise to power ratio I've ever experienced.
Thanks - Geoff.


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Posted 02 December 2011 - 19:37

General Electric J79 Turbojet artist unknown
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Posted 03 December 2011 - 20:10

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Renault 760-cc, 4CV minicar, engine mounting. Artist, H.C.Lovell.

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US developed Chadwick centrifugal blower. Artist, L.C.Cresswell.


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Posted 03 December 2011 - 20:44

BMW 2000CS by Siegfried Werner
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Posted 03 December 2011 - 20:57

sunbeam alpine by Robert Roux
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Posted 03 December 2011 - 21:49

sunbeam alpine by Robert Roux
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I have always rather liked the Robert Roux artwork, most of his subjects have been of great interest. This one brought up a point for me, as I have been wondering this with regard to many of the Terry Davey pieces that I have been fixing; why are you going to do a cutaway then have the hood open? You are looking through the hood, open or closed, and this makes the car look like you photographed it broken down on the side of a highway. The only thing of interest would be that the hood hinges in the front, and that hardly seems to be all that unusual. I know that most cars would tend to look similar if you did not do things like this on occasion, but moving upward with the view point would seem to be much more effective.
Have any of you ever been instructed to open doors or hoods for an illustration ... not for Tony, who tended not to illustrate cars with doors ...
I have just never seen the point of doing this, so was just curious about other's view on the matter.
Thanks for your consideration.
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Posted 03 December 2011 - 22:03

I did a few with doors, Tom, but you are right, not many. I feel the same way, what is the point, except to show how to open the hood, and that should be on page 1, 2 or three of the manual anyway. I don't know if Robert Roux's drawing was for a manual or not, but my philosophy was always to keep the overall shape of the vehicle intact.

Some time ago we had a discussion about aircraft, if yoy showed them in flight mode - tail up - the prop should be spinning, but should the landing gear be up? If it was, then the prop had to be turning!

As for vehicles, I'm not at all sure that even putting some lock on the front wheels works. The exception would be on a vehicle with more than one steering axle, and if the commission stated that this should be shown! And I've just noticed that the Sunbeam Alpine has some lock on too... Hush my mouth.

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Posted 03 December 2011 - 23:01

I did a few with doors, Tom, but you are right, not many. I feel the same way, what is the point, except to show how to open the hood, and that should be on page 1, 2 or three of the manual anyway. I don't know if Robert Roux's drawing was for a manual or not, but my philosophy was always to keep the overall shape of the vehicle intact.

Some time ago we had a discussion about aircraft, if yoy showed them in flight mode - tail up - the prop should be spinning, but should the landing gear be up? If it was, then the prop had to be turning!

As for vehicles, I'm not at all sure that even putting some lock on the front wheels works. The exception would be on a vehicle with more than one steering axle, and if the commission stated that this should be shown! And I've just noticed that the Sunbeam Alpine has some lock on too... Hush my mouth.


Tony,
I agree with your point, and will take it a step further ... how do you have the landing gear up and the prop spinning and leave out the pilot. For a car, you are talking about an in-motion vehicle that would be driverless. I did one illustration with the driver where we actually raised the nose of the car to extend the front suspension, opened the injector plates and put everything where it would be on a run, including the wrinkles in the tires (drag racing, you know). I still have people tell me it is their favorite of my drawings, although the driver hides so much that it was a bit counterproductive .. and I did not really want to draw through the driver as it had rather gory overtones to that thought.
On the turned wheels, I sort of like the more aggressive position that it seems to give the car, and am doing one (when I am doing it) that has turned front tires on a dragster. Considering that the car is highly out of shape if it would be on the track like this, it gives rather aggressive overtones to the piece, I think. Of course, I love doing those wire cycle wheels on these things ... always among my favorite parts to have to draw.
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Posted 04 December 2011 - 00:36

I'd forgotten the pilot! However, it makes propellor-driven 'planes more difficult to cut away in a realistic fashion - if any cutaway is realistic - than a wheeled vehicle. Drivers are a bit difficult in that they hide quite a lot, and I only put a driver in a car on two occasions, both Robby Gordon, and both at the behest of Valvoline. I think they worked well but I it is still not my choice. There is - I have - a tendency to be a bit pedantic, and really one should chill a bit, I think.

It was brought home to me at Indy in 1983 that not everyone realises that the driver of a formula car is not sitting upright with his knees bent, as I overheard an elderly couple puzzling about a mechanic working on the front of a Penske tub, up to his elbows inside the car. I told them that he was working on the pedals, and they were astonished to learn that the pedals were right at the front of the car! They had no idea that the driver was virtually lying down. So, if an illustration is not just for petrol heads and knowledable fans it is only right to include stuff that might be considered fairly elementary.

I think drawing a dragster in action is a great idea, especially as the fans will recognise what is going on, and it is fairly dramatic! I've always liked the look of the huge wrinkles in those rear tyres, static or spinning.

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I feel sure I've posted this before, so apologies, but it shows The Driver...

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Posted 04 December 2011 - 18:15

For Tom and Tony, another cutaway of Robert Roux with the hood open
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see page 176 the same car drawing by Theo Page with the hood open also