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#10701 helioseism

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Posted 20 December 2011 - 18:06

Tony --

Way back on page 35 ibsenop posted a low-quality image of your Lotus 77 cutaway. Unfortunately you reported that you no longer had a higher-quality copy. I have just received a copy of "Rennwagen - Funktion & Technik In der Formel 1" by Eddie Guba, published in 1977, and it has a smallish black & white version from which I can probably make a decent scan. Is that OK with you?

The book also contains an unsigned Surtees TS19 which looks like yours as well, and which we have never seen. Is it yours? Do you have a good copy of that subject which you would be willing to share? Otherwise, I can do that one as well.

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Posted 20 December 2011 - 20:52

There was also an estate version called the Husky.

Making a reference back to an earlier (front engined) Hillman Husky I suspect?
Some wasted space behind the seats (an opportunity for long range fuel tanks?).


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Posted 20 December 2011 - 20:59

Tony --

Way back on page 35 ibsenop posted a low-quality image of your Lotus 77 cutaway. Unfortunately you reported that you no longer had a higher-quality copy. I have just received a copy of "Rennwagen - Funktion & Technik In der Formel 1" by Eddie Guba, published in 1977, and it has a smallish black & white version from which I can probably make a decent scan. Is that OK with you?

The book also contains an unsigned Surtees TS19 which looks like yours as well, and which we have never seen. Is it yours? Do you have a good copy of that subject which you would be willing to share? Otherwise, I can do that one as well.

Thanks!


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#10704 helioseism

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Posted 20 December 2011 - 23:19

Lotus 77 by Tony Matthews. Upgrade of the one on page 35.

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Posted 20 December 2011 - 23:20

Surtees TS19 by Tony Matthews.

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Posted 20 December 2011 - 23:22

Ligier JS5 by Serge Bellu. Upgrade (maybe) of the one on page 104.

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Posted 20 December 2011 - 23:25

My attempt at a big version of the Alfa-Romeo 33-2 Coda Lunga from the Fusi book.

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Posted 20 December 2011 - 23:32

My attempt at the Kieft 500cc on page 209.

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Posted 20 December 2011 - 23:35

Another version of the Alta-Cooper on page 208.

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Posted 21 December 2011 - 01:21

Tyrrell 016 by Jean Jacques François (from the Sport Auto poster - a little better scan of the already posted at page 85 by Macoran)

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Posted 21 December 2011 - 01:24

Lotus 77 by Tony Matthews. Upgrade of the one on page 35.


Thank you for this upgrade :clap: .


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Posted 21 December 2011 - 17:32

and it has a smallish black & white version from which I can probably make a decent scan.

Wow !!!!!! and you managed to make a 2.7 MB scan of it ?..............!!!!!!

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Posted 21 December 2011 - 17:42

Just in case some of you are away early for Christmas.............

Friends, Romans and cutawayfans !!!!

Have a Merry Christmas, enjoy the evenings with friends and family
Enjoy a good meal, and drink a tasty glass or two ! ha !!!! I'll have 3 !

Have a good Old/New Years night, and let's carry on posting in 2012.

Guys !! you are all great !!!



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Posted 21 December 2011 - 18:26

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Connaught 'A' series. A8. Artist, Redmill. Edit: fade corrected

Merry Christmas and a Happy New Year to all. :up:

(Especially you, Marc, with your current health troubles)

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Posted 21 December 2011 - 20:27

Merry Christmas and a Happy New Year to all. :up:

(Especially you, Marc, with your current health troubles)


Thanks very much Mark, it seems like ages, but I've only been off the fags for 9 weeks now, and happily I ain't missing them a bit.
Just hoping the missus and daughter will stop puffing the weed in 2012.


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Posted 21 December 2011 - 23:56

Since it is the festive season, I will just draw attention to a short anecdote, which appears in the autobiography of C.E.’Johnny' Johnson, Chief Draughtsman at Connaught. It describes an encounter with the cutaway artist, L.C.Cresswell. I’m sure this will warm hearts. :up:

“Leslie Cresswell made an excellent drawing of the ‘A’ Series for The Motor, and it is interesting because he came down, I showed him A1, he made some sketches and went away.

A week later he rang up. According to his drawing, the front shock-absorbers were not in line with each other – he made their centres one eighth of an inch out of alignment! Would I check – was it the car or was it his drawing?

I checked: he was absolutely right and the car was out. I have never forgotten this, and the incident increased my already considerable admiration for technical artists.

Cresswell later said that he had very little knowledge of the names of the various bits and pieces of a car – he just drew them” C.E. ‘Johnny’ Johnson. Chief Draughtsman. Connaught.


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Posted 22 December 2011 - 11:54

Since it is the festive season, I will just draw attention to a short anecdote, which appears in the autobiography of C.E.’Johnny' Johnson, Chief Draughtsman at Connaught. It describes an encounter with the cutaway artist, L.C.Cresswell. I’m sure this will warm hearts. :up:

Great story, in the late 60s I worked on the Technical Illustration section in the body drawing office of Rootes then Chrysler UK, part of the function was to check panel fit. VERY early days of computers which would do the job today.

#10718 Tony Matthews

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Posted 22 December 2011 - 12:06

A week later he rang up. According to his drawing, the front shock-absorbers were not in line with each other – he made their centres one eighth of an inch out of alignment! Would I check – was it the car or was it his drawing?

I checked: he was absolutely right and the car was out. I have never forgotten this, and the incident increased my already considerable admiration for technical artists.

Hmmm...

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Posted 22 December 2011 - 21:16

tyrrell 009 by Giorgio Piola
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Posted 24 December 2011 - 07:00

Well, we approach quickly upon another Christmas, and I want to wish all of you a wonderful holiday season. It is quite something to think of how involved we are at times with this group. I know that I really anticipate new posts, with illustrations or not. There is almost always some insight into the art, and that is something that is quite welcomed.
I feel like many of you have become friends outside of just the board, and want to thank all of you that already know you are very important and respected friends. I treasure the group, and those special individuals, and wish all of you a very Merry Christmas, and a fufiling and Happy New Year.
Having said that, I am going to put up a few newly scanned pieces to cover the automotive and aircraft categories. I had actually thought to do a Twelve Days of Christmas thing, but I never got started in time, so we get what we get ...
The first piece is one out of the RAF Yearbook from 1981, when Pilot Press was producing the book for them. This is the Airspeed Oxford Mark 2 under Mike Badrocke's Aviagraphica signature. i just did the first three in the file, which are all 2-piece scans assembled for the final version.
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Posted 24 December 2011 - 07:04

Our second piece for the evening is another from Mike Badrocke, this one under his own name, and done for Air International, May, 1995. The historic British airliner, the Armstrong Whitworth Argosy II. One of the various 3-engine designs that seemed to evolve between the wars.
Interesting to consider the open cockpit with the closed passenger compartment on one of the pioneers of air transportation.
Tom West

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Posted 24 December 2011 - 07:07

One of the classic bombers of all time was shown in this John Weal piece which was published here in the RAF Yearbook 1976. They used to publish as many as 7 cutaways in those '70s Yearbooks, from modern to classic. This one is the Avro Lancaster Mark III.
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Posted 24 December 2011 - 07:10

We switch over to a trio of the Giovanni Cavara pieces from the Italian Auto Club book which has been previously discussed. This one is the ATS 1500 Formula 1 car out of 1963.
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Posted 24 December 2011 - 07:12

Another F1 car out of the Giovanni Cavara collection for the Auto Club of Italy, this one is the DeTomaso 1500 Formula 1 as it ran in 1962. These cars were still morphing from the old technology of the 50s into the rear-engined monocoque cars that were quickly to follow.
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Posted 24 December 2011 - 07:17

I would feel like I was cheating a bit if I did not include a Ferrari in the cars from the Italian Auto Club, so this Ferrari 166S of 1947 will be the one from Giovanni Cavara. The reproduction was not all that hot, as most of the small details that appear to have been in the original seem to have been lost in the reproduction in the book. My original is maybe 120% of this file, and they just are not there in the book printing. Some of the older pieces in the book look a bit like this.
Again, I will wish everyone a very Merry Christmas. Hope everyone enjoys their time with the family and friends.
Best to all of you.
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Posted 24 December 2011 - 09:31

Merry Christmas for the cutaway land
My present for this feast day:3 Robert Roux of course,but 3 particular Robert Roux.For this 3 cutaways Robert Roux has used parts of drawing resulting of other artists (with their authorizations i think)
lotus 27
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original by Theo Page
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porsche 356
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frame draws by Siegfried Werner
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i have not the original by Theo Page

thank's Tom for the Cavara's

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Posted 24 December 2011 - 09:48

and now it's the time of the letter for the Santa Claus:
Dear Santa Claus,
For my Christmas i would like one or several of this cutaway drawings
osca 1100 by LaTourette,alfa romeo 6c grand sport by G Betti,maserati 250f by J Allington,porsche 917 by M Badrocke,honda ra 273 by V Berris,matra ms84 and mc laren m7a by D Ellis,honda ra 301 by Fujimoto,chevrolet corvette gs and honda ra 273 by Y Inomoto,mazda 787 by T Jufuku,honda ra 271 and lola t280 by Tony with the surtees ts19 in colour version,abarth ot 2000 by M Ouchi........................................

Merry Christmas
Christian

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Posted 24 December 2011 - 15:18

Ford GT40 by Takashi Jufuku

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Merry Christmas!
I wish you a pleasant, relaxing holiday and even more great 2012!



#10729 Tony Matthews

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Posted 24 December 2011 - 15:25

Happy Christmas to one and all in Cutawayland, another great year nearly over, another in the breech, so to speak.

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Posted 24 December 2011 - 16:36

Merry Christmas to all "Cutawayers" and big thanks for all the postings this year, there's been some amazing illustration work on display. Let's hope the New Year brings many new offerings :)

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Posted 24 December 2011 - 21:33

A bit late in sending this - granddaughter caught a bug from her great grandmother that slowed all of us down for a bit - fortunately all are feeling much better.

First is a kit car from the '50s, the Sorrell Engineering SR 100 - artist unknown
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The next vehicle was produced from 1996-99, a Tatra 700, by an artist with whom I am unfamiliar - Sumberas(?)
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Last is a vintage illustration from 1908 produced by Rogers & Co. - vehicle and actual artist unidentified
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May each of your minds be at peace, your souls be at rest, and your hearts filled with the Joy of the season.
May grace filter all that flows to or from you - have a blessed Christmas and 2012...

Peter

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Posted 24 December 2011 - 21:49

Last is a vintage illustration from 1908 produced by Rogers & Co. - vehicle and actual artist unidentified
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Very best wishes, Peter, and it's good to hear that everyone is on the mend.

Isn't the Rogers artwork something else? Amazing!

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Posted 25 December 2011 - 00:23

Isn't the Rogers artwork something else? Amazing!


I thought so too - not sure how it was done, but I find it fascinating...

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Posted 25 December 2011 - 17:38

Surtees TS19 by Tony Matthews.

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Played with the image a bit and came up with this.

http://imageshack.us...ts19edited.jpg/

Not good by any measure but shapes and planes are better defined. With more information and less noise might have come up with a legible signature.

Al

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Posted 26 December 2011 - 15:47

A couple of Betti's (I think)
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1979 Fiat 127 'Sport' (Not great quality)

I always knew I still had the 127 Sport brochure with the G Betti cutaway in it somewheres.

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Posted 26 December 2011 - 17:20

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Lancia Thema 8.32
32 valve V8 2927 cc engine Ferrari 328 QV based (cross-planed crank instead of a flat-plane crank) .
At first marketted non- catalysed 215 bhp@6750 rpm / 285Nm @ 4500 rpm
Later marketted catalysed 205 bhp @6750 rpm / 263 Nm @5000 rpm
Engine cutaway looks like it could be a Betti, but the car…….Franco Rosso maybe ?

Edited by macoran, 26 December 2011 - 17:20.


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Posted 27 December 2011 - 17:15

Just thought that I would let you know that I ended up with the Kimble book as a Christmas gift from my son. That thing is really spectacular, even if you do not like the line-work and color-stacking approach to their execution. I would say that my only complaint is that the pieces tend to be very dark, so a lot of the details are a bit hidden but I think that is from the transparencies that these were probably taken. I have had a few of those in my hands over the years, and they have all been a bit underexposed to my eye, but that is possibly the way that David sees this stuff.

The interesting thing was that it was only my second favorite gift book ... my daughter put together an Apple book for me and her mom, showing her life as a kid and talking about how good a life we gave her over the years. I have to consider this to be very much of a personal treasure.

Hope you all had a wonderful Christmas, and that you have saved a few empty calories for involvement in New Year's festivities. Hope you all have a great New Year for you and your family.

Tom West

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Posted 28 December 2011 - 00:26

Just thought that I would let you know that I ended up with the Kimble book as a Christmas gift from my son. That thing is really spectacular...

The interesting thing was that it was only my second favorite gift book ... my daughter put together an Apple book for me and her mom, showing her life as a kid and talking about how good a life we gave her over the years. I have to consider this to be very much of a personal treasure.

Tom West


So true. I received the Kimble book for my birthday in late October (actually a bit late as they didn't ship as early as indicated) and it is exceptional - and yet, a portrait of three of my grandkids from one of my daughters this Christmas is a better gift.

Like you, I think the illustrations are a bit dark, but since I am scanning them (I find them much easier to view on my large monitor than on a book page) the exposure (brightness/contrast) can be altered to my individual taste.

Glad you had a good Christmas.

Peter

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Posted 28 December 2011 - 18:08

So true. I received the Kindle book for my birthday in late October (actually a bit late as they didn't ship as early as indicated) and it is exceptional - and yet, a portrait of three of my grandkids from one of my daughters this Christmas is a better gift.

Like you, I think the illustrations are a bit dark, but since I am scanning them (I find them much easier to view on my large monitor than on a book page) the exposure (brightness/contrast) can be altered to my individual taste.

Glad you had a good Christmas.

Peter



Peter,
Thank-you for confirming my view of the dark printing. I hate to make comments on art from any of the top artists, all of whom work in color, when I really do all of my illustrations in linework. I do not really feel qualified to comment, but I know what I like. As I said, the transparencies I have seen have always been pretty dark, so I think that may be the problem with those pieces. Also, they are done on clear film, with the colors being applied in reverse order on the back of the film, so it gives a different rendition than working on artboard as a reflective surface.
I had actually gone through some articles about his technique to learn how to do the couple of color pieces that I did, and had to really hold back on the ink coverage to keep them relatively lighter, as I tend to want the pieces a bit more open looking. Kimble also seems to wind up doing very dark backgrounds. That is why his earlier classic cars are among my favorite of his illustrations.
This is a bit of splitting hairs here, and the book is phenomenal, and I am very happy to have it. Gather they are probably sold out now ... on to the e-bay sales ...
Have a great New Year, guys.
Tom West

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Posted 28 December 2011 - 19:02

the Kimble book

The interesting thing was that it was only my second favorite gift book ... my daughter put together an Apple book for me and her mom, showing her life as a kid and talking about how good a life we gave her over the years. I have to consider this to be very much of a personal treasure.



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the Kimble book for my birthday in late October (actually a bit late as they didn't ship as early as indicated) and it is exceptional - and yet, a portrait of three of my grandkids from one of my daughters this Christmas is a better gift.





Peter


It took me a few seconds to realise that you were both talking about the Dave Kimble book, as I misread it as Kindle!

I have had numerous heartaches in the past with printing and printers - sometimes due to no-one bothering to cantact me to check! The most prestigeous/expensive book I was ever involved with was Chris Nixon's tome on the Aston Martin v Ferrari battle, for which I did cutaways of the AM DBR1, Testa Rossa and TR250. The book launch was in the Orangery in Knightsbridge, little ol' London Town, and quite an event for which I wore my one and only suit and felt pretty cool. However, on seeing a copy of the book, and finding the illustrations, I nearly threw up - they were so badly over-inked (I think is the expression) that I hardly recognised them. All that effort, all that sweat and worry, and they were ruined. Simply because no one had let me see some proofs, even though I had asked if this would be possible. The printing was done in Italy, and ended in a bit of a rush - no surprise there - so perhaps there wasn't time, but whatever, the result was appalling. However, I don't suppose any one else noticed anything wrong!

I'm delighted that you both had even better gifts in the form of images of your children - I'm in the process of scanning thousands of photos of my two, and eventually they will get everything I have on DVD, which they can install, print from, whatever, but they will have a record!

Happy New Year to everyone, keep the cutaways a'coming!

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Posted 28 December 2011 - 20:44

Alfa Romeo 33 1.5 Quadrifoglio Oro '1983
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Posted 29 December 2011 - 17:14

Greetings and Merry Christmas to all my best wishes for the upcoming 2012

sorry for the long absence but I solved technical problems and had outside the forum, new tracks soon.

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Posted 29 December 2011 - 17:45

Yakolev Yak-28 Firebar cutaway, the soviet fighter, armed wich two missiles AA-3 Anab, author unknow and modified by Motocar

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Bell X-1B, the rocket aircraft author Mike badrocke and modified by Motocar

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Grumman FT-9F Cougar the training aircraft author Aviagraphica and modified by Motocar

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Shenyang JT-6 cutaway, Chinese trainer fighter, author WEAL and modified by Motocar in tanden crews version

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#10744 Tony Matthews

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Posted 30 December 2011 - 02:17

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Posted 31 December 2011 - 01:42

It took me a few seconds to realise that you were both talking about the Dave Kimble book, as I misread it as Kindle!


You didn't misread it, Tony - I didn't realize my typo until I read Tom's response to my reply and then I fixed it immediately, but you obviously saw it before that and Tom's response records the error for posterity - oh well - fortunately I never claimed anything close to perfection.

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Posted 31 December 2011 - 06:26

You didn't misread it, Tony - I didn't realize my typo until I read Tom's response to my reply and then I fixed it immediately, but you obviously saw it before that and Tom's response records the error for posterity - oh well - fortunately I never claimed anything close to perfection.

Peter


Peter,
Very sorry to have locked that into the group for you. I had noticed it but ignored the typo as something we all do on occasion, although it did read rather interestingly that way. We knew what you meant, believe me.
I want to again wish everyone the best of holidays for New Year's Day, and for the entire year behind it. This has been a great pleasure to be included in this group, and to take part in the process here. It is certainly one of the more worthy efforts of this type that I have ever seen, and I am proud to be a small piece of the activities.
Happy New Year.
Tom West

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Posted 31 December 2011 - 19:56

Yakolev Yak-28 Firebar cutaway, the soviet fighter, armed with two missiles AA-3 Anab, author unknown and modified by Motocar
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Bell X-1B, the rocket aircraft author Mike badrocke and modified by Motocar
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Grumman FT-9F Cougar the training aircraft author Aviagraphica and modified by Motocar
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Shenyang JT-6 cutaway, Chinese trainer fighter, author WEAL and modified by Motocar in tanden crews version
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For those who like to examine drawings to see the differences, here is the Yak 28 (artist unknown) before modification by Motocar
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Mike Badrocke's Bell X1 (the drawing modified by Motocar to illustrate the X1b) has already been posted on page 225, post 8961.

Mike Badrocke's AviaGraphica F9 original is included below for comparison to the modified trainer.
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John Weal's MiG19 original (modified for the Shenyang JT6 trainer) is, I believe, somewhere in this thread, but the index doesn't have a page indicated, so it is attached for comparison.
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Some of the drawings were taken from other publications than those illustrated above, as evidenced by reversed views, but examinations of the legends (or numbers for legends) will verify the parentage. Enjoy (or, if seeking differences is not your thing, ignore).

Peter



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Posted 31 December 2011 - 23:00

HAPPY NEW YEAR !!!!!

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Posted 01 January 2012 - 00:50

Same to you Marc, and everyone in Cutawayland!