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#1351 Tony Matthews

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Posted 02 May 2009 - 16:12

At first glance I thought it might be Lotus 49, but it isn't, however, there is a shot of the front of 1966 Ferrari that is a close thing, including the air-scoops either side of the radiatior, in DCN's History of the Grand Prix Car, p31, but it's not that either! It may not even be an actual car, just a schematic, but I'm sure someone is going to pin-point it! I'm suposed to be gardening...

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#1352 ibsenop

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Posted 02 May 2009 - 17:01

Williams FW09 Honda
Cutaway by Takashi Jufuku

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Ibsen
http://public.fotki.com/ibsenop/

Edited by ibsenop, 18 February 2012 - 11:19.


#1353 M Needforspeed

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Posted 02 May 2009 - 17:25

wonder if any of you experts out there can advise me. I n amongst a load of artwork that I purchased from Hazleton publishing many years ago was the attached diagram. I think it is a grand prix car from the sixties but I could e very wrong. Please could someone advise meas to what it is? My own guess is a Mclaren M4A.

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that ' s well a sixties racing car, but the Eagle AAR 103

Edited by M Needforspeed, 02 May 2009 - 17:28.


#1354 PeterElleray

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Posted 02 May 2009 - 18:05

that ' s well a sixties racing car, but the Eagle AAR 103



yes, originally in a feature on the eagle in Motor, w/e august 20th 1966, credited to Brian Hatton and John way

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#1355 Tony Matthews

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Posted 02 May 2009 - 18:40

Williams FW09 Honda
Cutaway by Takashi Jufuku

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Ibsen
http://public.fotki.com/ibsenop/


That's nice, Ibsen, thanks for posting it.


#1356 macoran

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Posted 02 May 2009 - 22:25

that ' s well a sixties racing car, but the Eagle AAR 103

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Yes, this Page cutaway and a Hatton drawing of the tub show enough others details as well.
Page cutaway was shared with me by bradbury west.

Edited by macoran, 02 May 2009 - 22:26.


#1357 ibsenop

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Posted 02 May 2009 - 23:16

Eagle AAR 103 1967
Cutaway by Bennett

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Ibsen
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Edited by ibsenop, 18 February 2012 - 11:21.


#1358 ibsenop

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Posted 02 May 2009 - 23:20

And to remember Senna

Mclaren MP4-5B
Cutaway by Hideo Mizokawa

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#1359 macoran

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Posted 03 May 2009 - 11:16

Eagle AAR 103 1967
Cutaway by Bennett
Ibsen


Thanks Ibsen, I was going to ask, my copy is very unclear and small


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#1360 Tony Matthews

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Posted 03 May 2009 - 11:45

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This is nearer full-size, a lot of Bill's artwork was done quite small, if you measure the steering wheel on it's minor axis, i.e., on the centre-line of the steering column, it should be 30mm. I think one's own monitor size influences this, it is one of many things I am not sure about - like how many beans make five, for example.

Edited by Tony Matthews, 03 May 2009 - 12:36.


#1361 Tony Matthews

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Posted 03 May 2009 - 11:56

I posted this scan taken from the original artwork quite big as I expected the image to be reduced to a default size which could be enlarged by clicking on the appropriate bar. Now I find that all the images are being shown full-size. What's going on? I thought the default thing was a good idea - but then I also liked the white corner to indicate that you had contributed to a thread!

#1362 alansart

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Posted 03 May 2009 - 12:07

I posted this scan taken from the original artwork quite big as I expected the image to be reduced to a default size which could be enlarged by clicking on the appropriate bar. Now I find that all the images are being shown full-size. What's going on? I thought the default thing was a good idea - but then I also liked the white corner to indicate that you had contributed to a thread!


I think a few people complained and it's been put back to how it was. I've noticed the Quote/Reply has gone back to the old style as well :)

Edited by alansart, 03 May 2009 - 12:08.


#1363 ibsenop

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Posted 03 May 2009 - 15:49

Hi Tony,

Could you post the rear part of the Bennett Eagle cutaway?
Much clean and crisp than mine. I'll join the parts together.

Ibsen
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#1364 alansart

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Posted 03 May 2009 - 16:30

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That looks like pre Rotring pen. The days when it was paintbush and ruling pens - but it seems to have Letratone on it. Was that added later?

#1365 ibsenop

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Posted 03 May 2009 - 17:03

Hi Tony,
Leaving the furnace.

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Ibsen
http://public.fotki.com/ibsenop/

Edited by ibsenop, 18 February 2012 - 11:22.


#1366 Tony Matthews

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Posted 03 May 2009 - 19:38

That looks like pre Rotring pen. The days when it was paintbush and ruling pens - but it seems to have Letratone on it. Was that added later?


I don't know how much Rotring is involved here Alan, and what there is is mostly free-hand. And I'm not certain what is brush and what is mapping pen. Bill's work was much looser than mine, looser than Jim Allington's too, and has a rally nice feel. However, I get the impression that there were times when he lost interest a little, that he just wanted to get the job finished. Hence the Letratone, where he otherwise used ink. As far as I can make out the Letratone is original, added at the time the drawing was done. I'm not sure when Letratone became available, but I used it at Luton Tech. on an illustration of a gas boiler, and that would have been in the mid-'60's!


#1367 275 GTB-4

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Posted 04 May 2009 - 09:41

it is one of many things I am not sure about - like how many beans make five, for example.


Tony old son...just remember...2 beans plus two do not make 5...remember that and it will be smooth sailing all the way :wave: :up:


#1368 Tony Matthews

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Posted 04 May 2009 - 12:14

Tony old son...just remember...2 beans plus two do not make 5...remember that and it will be smooth sailing all the way :wave: :up:


Where I come from GTB there are several answers to the perennial question - 'How many beans make five?' - two of which are - 'Four, two in each hand,' or 'One and a half bean, half bean, whole bean, two bean.' So there!

#1369 ibsenop

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Posted 04 May 2009 - 23:58

Hi Tony,
Is this cutaway yours?
I can't read the signature.
Small and very bad print.
Scanned from italian magazine "Auto Sport" number 15 - may 1977.
If positive, can you post a better copy of this cutaway. (Much better I hope).

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#1370 ibsenop

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Posted 05 May 2009 - 00:12

Can someone identify this cutaway artist. No credits.
Mclaren M16.
Scanned from the same italian magazine "Auto Sport" Nº 15 May 1977.
Missing rear part.

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Ibsen
http://public.fotki.com/ibsenop/

#1371 Tony Matthews

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Posted 05 May 2009 - 01:10

Hi Tony,
Is this cutaway yours?
I can't read the signature.
Small and very bad print.
Scanned from italian magazine "Auto Sport" number 15 - may 1977.
If positive, can you post a better copy of this cutaway. (Much better I hope).



Ibsen
http://public.fotki.com/ibsenop/


I'm sure it's mine, Ibsen, but it was obviously many years ago, a very quick cutaway, not much information, and I don't have the artwork, or a transparency, or even a print!

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Posted 06 May 2009 - 14:30

I have no idea if that's been posted here before:
http://www.cartype.c...0/car_cut-aways
I found it by coincidence looking for something completely differend.
It's kind of a cutaway haven...

#1373 ibsenop

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Posted 06 May 2009 - 22:59

Cutaway Artist: Hideo Mizokawa
Nissan R89C Tamiya 1/24 kit box cover.

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Ibsen
http://public.fotki.com/ibsenop/

Edited by ibsenop, 05 July 2010 - 12:20.


#1374 Bonde

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Posted 06 May 2009 - 23:01

Thanks for the link, Duc-Man.

I particularly like the rendering style of Studio Parsons used by GM - very crisp. I wonder what rendering software is used there?

#1375 Amaroo Park

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Posted 07 May 2009 - 03:01

Any more Touring Car cutaways Tony?

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Posted 07 May 2009 - 07:10

Fantastic thread !

Being a designer myself ( not cars ) drawings always call my attention and when I bumped into this thread I was delighted with all the drawings posted.
Cut away drawings have always captivated me and I would like to thank Tony Matthews for sharing his work / time with us.

If it helps, some time ago I found a web about cut away drawings ( planes, ships, cars, etc. ) where there is a list of race car models, the artist who did the drawing ( many by Tony Matthews ) and where it was published. If it helps, this is the site :

http://www.xs4all.nl...ay.htm#racecars


At this page, there are also some nice cut away drawings : http://usuarios.lycos.es/eduardomacri/



P.S. Muito obrigado Ibsen.

Edited by WHITE, 07 May 2009 - 07:12.


#1377 DHFiallo

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Posted 07 May 2009 - 18:11

Thanks for the post on the Tamiya Art. They had some beautiful art on their box covers, and especially the group C cars. You wouldn't have anymore? :)

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Posted 07 May 2009 - 21:01

Having looked at the list and especially at Tony's work that is listed, would there be any chance of Tony posting a copy of his Beatrice THL 2 Ford. I think I must have missed that one along the way. I would also very much like to see his Honda RA271.

Fantastic thread !

Being a designer myself ( not cars ) drawings always call my attention and when I bumped into this thread I was delighted with all the drawings posted.
Cut away drawings have always captivated me and I would like to thank Tony Matthews for sharing his work / time with us.

If it helps, some time ago I found a web about cut away drawings ( planes, ships, cars, etc. ) where there is a list of race car models, the artist who did the drawing ( many by Tony Matthews ) and where it was published. If it helps, this is the site :

http://www.xs4all.nl...ay.htm#racecars


At this page, there are also some nice cut away drawings : http://usuarios.lycos.es/eduardomacri/



P.S. Muito obrigado Ibsen.



#1379 Tony Matthews

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Posted 07 May 2009 - 21:11

Having looked at the list and especially at Tony's work that is listed, would there be any chance of Tony posting a copy of his Beatrice THL 2 Ford. I think I must have missed that one along the way. I would also very much like to see his Honda RA271.



Never did the RA271, Rtb, but I can stick the Beatrice Ford on if I haven't done it before on this thread - I'll have a quick check...

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#1380 Tony Matthews

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Posted 07 May 2009 - 21:27

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Not the best, scanned from an old print, not a trannie, so a bit wan-looking.

Edited by Tony Matthews, 07 May 2009 - 21:29.


#1381 ibsenop

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Posted 07 May 2009 - 23:09

Beatrice THL2 Ford cutaway
Tony Matthews posted it at higher resolution on the Hass Beatrice thread

http://img293.images...atricef1ef9.jpg



Cutaway Artist: Hideo Mizokawa
Sauber C9 Mercedes Tamiya 1/24 kit box cover

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Ibsen
http://public.fotki.com/ibsenop/

Edited by ibsenop, 18 February 2012 - 11:23.


#1382 Tony Matthews

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Posted 08 May 2009 - 07:35

Beatrice THL2 Ford cutaway
Tony Matthews posted it at higher resolution on the Hass Beatrice thread
Ibsen


Tony Matthews had a good idea that he'd posted it somewhere other than this thread, but forgot where. That's Tony Matthews for you...helpful but forgetful.

#1383 macoran

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Posted 08 May 2009 - 20:16

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A Dick Ellis and Brian Hatton Shadow DN1. There is another one out there, and it is Tony Matthews'.
So here is tempting Tony to show us his.

Edited by macoran, 08 May 2009 - 20:20.


#1384 Tony Matthews

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Posted 08 May 2009 - 22:58

A Dick Ellis and Brian Hatton Shadow DN1. There is another one out there, and it is Tony Matthews'. So here is tempting Tony to show us his.



I did it earlier, Marc, post #899! Great to see the others, I haven't seen them before. How different is the DN1 to the DN1A? Was it the following year's update?

#1385 ibsenop

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Posted 08 May 2009 - 23:08

Hi Marc,

Tony posted his Shadow DN1 cutaway at the page 23 of this thread.

Thanks R, I really enjoyed doing the Ibec, very different from anything I had done before - I don't think the Lotus Seven that I did whilst working for Jim Allington really counts as he had a big input, and a Seven is a very simple chassis - or since. All my MN and MS cutaways were done the old way, working drawing done on board, then inked over, so lost, lost for ever!

The difference was that the cutaways done in both B&W and colour were based on the same working drawing, done in thin ink line and photographed, the ink rubbed out nearly completely and painted over, while a full-size print was done and this inked over to give the B&W version.

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Hi Tony,
Could you post the front and rear part of this cutaway,please.

Ibsen
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Posted 08 May 2009 - 23:18

Had anyone know the following website?

http://beaudaniels.com/
http://www.technical...trations.co.uk/

I think the drawing is excellent.


#1387 macoran

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Posted 09 May 2009 - 00:19

I did it earlier, Marc, post #899! Great to see the others, I haven't seen them before. How different is the DN1 to the DN1A? Was it the following year's update?

Ow oke, I thought it was missing bits

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Posted 09 May 2009 - 00:47

Had anyone know the following website?

http://beaudaniels.com/
http://www.technical...trations.co.uk/

I think the drawing is excellent.


I agree with you. Excellent drawings. Fantastic.

Ibsen
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Posted 09 May 2009 - 01:32

Hi, :wave:

I am newbie here :)

I wonder where I can start to learn drawing like that Posted Image and how many years to spend so that I can be expert in drawing like many images in this forums? :up:

I am in dreaming to do this!

Cheers Posted Image

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Posted 09 May 2009 - 17:20

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Not the best, scanned from an old print, not a trannie, so a bit wan-looking.


Thanks for the Sauber Ibsen; another lovely Group C car and thanks for the Image Tony. I truly love the art that you do. :up:

#1391 Tony Matthews

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Posted 09 May 2009 - 22:28

Any more Touring Car cutaways Tony?


Hi AP, I don't know if you've had the stamina to read the whole of this thread, but I posted a cutaway of the 199something BTCC Honda Accord, one of my better illustrations, some time ago. and I don't think I should duplicate it. So that's it, Honda and Toyota. I would have liked to do more, I was always interested in production cars modified for racing, it's that combination of standard structure and the racing bits, the roll-cage, different suspension and all the bits and pieces! Also, most of my racing experiences and memories are of the Tom's Toyota and various Special Saloons over the years.

WHITE, thanks for your kind comments, and the links - very interesting!

Thank you to DHF too!.

Marc, I'll re-post the DN1A in two parts ASAP.

Edited by Tony Matthews, 09 May 2009 - 22:31.


#1392 ibsenop

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Posted 09 May 2009 - 23:54

Cutaway Artist: Technical Art
BMW 320i

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Ibsen
http://public.fotki.com/ibsenop/

Edited by ibsenop, 18 February 2012 - 11:24.


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Posted 10 May 2009 - 11:25

Cutaway Artist: Technical Art
BMW 320i

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Ibsen
http://public.fotki.com/ibsenop/


I know the BMW 320 is attributed to Technical Art but does anyone know who the actual artist would be? For the record I think it is very good and I like the quality of the cutaway.

#1394 macoran

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Posted 10 May 2009 - 19:19

How different is the DN1 to the DN1A? Was it the following year's update?


I am not really sure Tony.
I actually always thought the car was designated DN1..and the the individual chassis were called 1A.2A.3A etc.
I'll check some period race reports.

I remember seeing your cutaway being offered by LAT for sale as "UOP Shadow DN1/1A"


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Posted 10 May 2009 - 19:47

I actually always thought the car was designated DN1..and the the individual chassis were called 1A.2A.3A etc.

Yes indeed. Full chassis details on the Shadow page of Allen Brown's site.


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Posted 10 May 2009 - 20:30

I know the BMW 320 is attributed to Technical Art but does anyone know who the actual artist would be? For the record I think it is very good and I like the quality of the cutaway.


Answer to my post #699 on the McLaren M26 cutaway.

Marc,

Technical Art was (is?) primarily the work of German Norbert Schäfer - another artist who was one of my early favourites and source of inspiration. I've mostly seen German cars from Schäfer's hand, so I'm a bit surprised to see an M26 from him, and in the original (prettier, IMO) version without the nose oil cooler. I suspect it may originally have been published in a German publication like Rallye Racing or German Sport Auto. Was it actually ever raced in that configuration? ISTR that by the 1977 racing season the front oil cooler had appeared.

So he may be the artist for this Bimmer as well.
I've got a Porsche 911 "Whaletail" by Technical Art somewhere I can dig out of my files.

http://www.technical....htm............ this is all I can find about him on the internet

Edited by macoran, 10 May 2009 - 20:34.


#1397 Tony Matthews

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Posted 10 May 2009 - 20:41

Yes indeed. Full chassis details on the Shadow page of Allen Brown's site.


Well, that's interesting! I've checked my 'Little Black Book' - actually brown - and it appears that I visited UOP in Northampton on the 12th Jan. 1973 and again on the 15th, but also, it seems, Silverstone on the 16th! It says UOP and has the job number and hours, but both have been crossed out - very odd. Anyway, it would seem that the chassis I saw and illustrated was DN1/1A, and the drawing was finished on the 7th February.

I still can't remember going to Silverstone to see the car, but I have vivid memories of the Northampton trips, although they have blended seamlessly into one event!


#1398 macoran

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Posted 10 May 2009 - 21:11

Well, that's interesting! I've checked my 'Little Black Book' - actually brown - and it appears that I visited UOP in Northampton on the 12th Jan. 1973 and again on the 15th, but also, it seems, Silverstone on the 16th! It says UOP and has the job number and hours, but both have been crossed out - very odd. Anyway, it would seem that the chassis I saw and illustrated was DN1/1A, and the drawing was finished on the 7th February.

I still can't remember going to Silverstone to see the car, but I have vivid memories of the Northampton trips, although they have blended seamlessly into one event!


Pfffff, what a time schedule you must have worked on getting all your detail of the tub and the rivetting done.
In comparison it looks like the two other esteemed gents took their task a lot more leisurely.


#1399 jayson martinez

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Posted 11 May 2009 - 06:22

> www.saillustrations.com

Lot of great automotive illustration too, not sure if it's a cutaway drawing or not but
I think the image quality is great.
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Edited by jayson martinez, 11 May 2009 - 06:25.


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#1400 macoran

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Posted 11 May 2009 - 22:12

Cutaway Artist: Technical Art
BMW 320i

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Ibsen


Brother Bimmer IMSA 320i Beast
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Edited by macoran, 11 May 2009 - 22:14.