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#1401 ibsenop

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Posted 12 May 2009 - 00:21

Another Bimmer brother - BMW 3000 CSL
Cutaway Artist: Bruno Betti

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#1402 Duc-Man

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Posted 12 May 2009 - 09:26

Here are two more.

BMW M1:
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and BMW 600:
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No idea about the artists. The pictures are way to small to read the names.
And also: the pictures came up with google picture search...

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#1403 alansart

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Posted 12 May 2009 - 09:51

and BMW 600:
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Could this be described as a "Dooropenaway" :)

The BMW's little brother

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#1404 DHFiallo

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Posted 12 May 2009 - 13:03

Very Nice! I got to see the Turbo 320i run at Daytona with David Hobbs at the wheel. It was very fast, but didn't finish. I had the chance to speak to Mr. Hobbs a couple years latter and he confirmed on what a nice car it was but that it was much too fragile; if I'm not wrong I think that later on it was the basis for the F1 turbo motor?
By coincidence, I have seen both the other two BMWs on the track this year. If anyone hasn't heard the scream of a M1 under hard acceleration they should consider themselves unlucky. They are one of the best sounding motors I've ever heard.

#1405 Tony Matthews

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Posted 12 May 2009 - 15:46

Another Bimmer brother - BMW 3000 CSL
Cutaway Artist: Bruno Betti

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Ibsen
http://public.fotki.com/ibsenop/

I always liked Bruno Betti's cutaways, 'traditional' brushwork and lots of shiney bits and reflections, but I could never understand why he felt it necessary to cut the glass, after all, you can see through it!


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Posted 12 May 2009 - 17:13

Hello after reading this tread for the past couple of days (I still have not read all posts) I just had to comment.
I am a huge fan of cutaways of Formula 1 cars and feel this is an icredible honour to being able to share a forum with a master like Tony but I also would like to say the same thing about many of the other posters. This is one of the first forums I joined where I am in such awe of the posters that I do not know what to say because I am afraid I will be making a fool of myself. (I am not an expert, just a motor racing enthusiast.) I have loved Tony's cutaways since I first saw them. But I also have to agree with Mr Matthews that Bruno Betti's are just amazing as well.

Markus Mueller

P.S: sorry but my english could use a little help.

Edited by Fendt936, 12 May 2009 - 17:14.


#1407 macoran

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Posted 12 May 2009 - 17:41

Another Bimmer brother - BMW 3000 CSL
Cutaway Artist: Bruno Betti

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Ibsen
http://public.fotki.com/ibsenop/


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Find the 500cc extra in this 3.5csl


#1408 Tony Matthews

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Posted 12 May 2009 - 17:49

Hello after reading this tread for the past couple of days (I still have not read all posts) I just had to comment.
I am a huge fan of cutaways of Formula 1 cars and feel this is an icredible honour to being able to share a forum with a master like Tony but I also would like to say the same thing about many of the other posters. This is one of the first forums I joined where I am in such awe of the posters that I do not know what to say because I am afraid I will be making a fool of myself. (I am not an expert, just a motor racing enthusiast.) I have loved Tony's cutaways since I first saw them. But I also have to agree with Mr Matthews that Bruno Betti's are just amazing as well.

Markus Mueller

P.S: sorry but my english could use a little help.


Your English is very good, Fendt! Thank you for your kind comments about my work, but I am glad that you mentioned 'the other posters' too, as I am just one illustrator, and there is a great deal of very fine work out there, you just have to see what macoran and ibsenop keep finding, plus the links that other posters have added. Glad you like it!



#1409 alansart

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Posted 12 May 2009 - 18:58

you just have to see what macoran and ibsenop keep finding, plus the links that other posters have added.


I'm amazed what they've found. There's excellent stuff out there that I never knew existed. I wish I'd seen this years ago. Things I missed that give inspiration for the next job!

There again I've always been a closet illustrator :)

#1410 Tony Matthews

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Posted 12 May 2009 - 19:48

[quote name='alansart' date='May 12 2009, 19:58' post='3639691'
There again I've always been a closet illustrator :)[/quote]

Alan, I can't wait to see your latest cutaway of a closet!


#1411 Rancethebus

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Posted 12 May 2009 - 22:03

If it's BMW we are discussing then here are two more cutaways. The Brabham BT49C BMW Turbo by Piola and the engine that powered it, The BMW M12 by Niedermeier.
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#1412 ibsenop

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Posted 12 May 2009 - 22:30

Another Bimmer brother.
The same cutaway posted by Duc-Man but in higher resolution.
BMW M1 Procar
Cutaway Artist: Technical Art (I think). My copy don't have an artist signature.

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Ibsen
http://public.fotki.com/ibsenop/

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#1413 macoran

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Posted 12 May 2009 - 22:33

2 wheeled Bimmer for those who love cycling to work in the summer. BMW R100RS
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Edited by macoran, 12 May 2009 - 22:40.


#1414 macoran

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Posted 12 May 2009 - 22:35

you just have to see what macoran and ibsenop keep finding


I just dig up my attic every now and then, there is still a ton or so of paper to dig through.


#1415 macoran

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Posted 12 May 2009 - 22:55

BMW M1 Procar
Cutaway Artist: Technical Art (I tink). My copy don't have an artist sigbature.

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Ibsen


Yes Ibsen Technical Art, I have a very bad coffee..euh copy with a huge coffee stain.


#1416 macoran

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Posted 12 May 2009 - 23:04

Alan, I can't wait to see your latest cutaway of a closet!

:rotfl: :rotfl: :rotfl: :rotfl:

you should've been a stand-up comedian in your time off Tony!

Edited by macoran, 12 May 2009 - 23:06.


#1417 Fendt936

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Posted 13 May 2009 - 01:11

All this makes me wonder - which car was the subject of the most cutaway? We're up to five for the Tyrrell (alright, slightly different models, but to me, essentially the same vehicle - Peter may disagree!) and what's the betting that macoran comes up with more! There must be a Ferrari that's been 'done' several times...


I know that the Ferrari 126 C2 was done a few times. D'Alessio (a few versions) , Piola and Betti and maybe some others as well. By the way I think that this Ferrari was one of the best looking F1 cars ever. I will try to see how many different versions of this car I have in books.


#1418 alansart

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Posted 13 May 2009 - 06:42

Alan, I can't wait to see your latest cutaway of a closet!


:rotfl:



#1419 Rancethebus

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Posted 13 May 2009 - 08:31

I know that the Ferrari 126 C2 was done a few times. D'Alessio (a few versions) , Piola and Betti and maybe some others as well. By the way I think that this Ferrari was one of the best looking F1 cars ever. I will try to see how many different versions of this car I have in books.

Well let me be the first to post a 126C, a Piola.
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#1420 Duc-Man

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Posted 13 May 2009 - 09:07

It is a beautiful car but: where is the explaintaiton of the numbers? :confused:

#1421 Fendt936

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Posted 13 May 2009 - 09:23

Well let me be the first to post a 126C, a Piola.
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So far I have found 4 different versions.
the above version is that of the prototype/presentation car. D'Alessio did 2 different version (one early 1982 and one late 1982) while Betti did the late 82 version. If any of you know of a Betti early version (with the rocker arm suspension) please post it.


#1422 Andrew Kitson

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Posted 13 May 2009 - 09:34

That looks like pre Rotring pen. The days when it was paintbush and ruling pens - but it seems to have Letratone on it. Was that added later?


That Eagle is a lovely piece of work. It reminds me why I wanted to be an illustrator in the first place. I bet that's not Letratone, before that, probably Zippertone. I feel however it would look better with an ink blacked in shadow rather than tone, it would make the car stand out more. Lovely nevertheless.


#1423 alansart

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Posted 13 May 2009 - 12:39

I bet that's not Letratone, before that, probably Zippertone.


Crikey, Zippertone - that's a name from the past!. Heard of it, but never ever used it.

What I also like about that picture is you can still see some of the pencil work that's not been rubbed away. Seems to give it some extra style :)

#1424 DHFiallo

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Posted 13 May 2009 - 13:44

here's another Tamiya box cover and a related cutaway. I don't know the artist of either; does anyone else know?
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#1425 Tony Matthews

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Posted 13 May 2009 - 14:00

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This one might be by Stuart Spencer, possibly now deceased, one-time Jaguar employee. A very nice guy.

#1426 Andrew Kitson

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Posted 13 May 2009 - 14:50

This one might be by Stuart Spencer, possibly now deceased, one-time Jaguar employee. A very nice guy.

Tony, not the same Stuart who now (like me) does paintings rather than illustrations?
The Stuart Spencer I speak of is still around and painting as far as I know, he also had stand space about the same time you and I did the Silverstone Coys shows...but he signs his paintings 'Spencer Trauts' ( 'Stuart' reversed ).


#1427 Tony Matthews

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Posted 13 May 2009 - 14:55

Tony, not the same Stuart who now (like me) does paintings rather than illustrations?
The Stuart Spencer I speak of is still around and painting as far as I know, he also had stand space about the same time you and I did the Silverstone Coys shows...but he signs his paintings 'Spencer Trauts' ( 'Stuart' reversed ).


Yes, Spencer Trauts! Do you know, as I was writing about his possible demise I though - he's bound to be alive still! And relieved I am to hear it. I met him a few times when my late friend Geoff Lawson joined Jaguar, but haven't seen him for probably 15 years. He did several Jaguar cutaways.


#1428 DHFiallo

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Posted 13 May 2009 - 15:59

Thanks Tony and here's a link I found for Mr. Spencer Stuarts
http://www.spencertrauts.com/

#1429 macoran

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Posted 13 May 2009 - 22:15

Discussed quite some time ago in this thread, and finally I have found it B Bennett's Surtees TS7
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edit....add in Bennett's TS8 F5000 to compare

Edited by macoran, 13 May 2009 - 22:18.


#1430 Tony Matthews

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Posted 13 May 2009 - 22:24

Discussed quite some time ago in this thread, and finally I have found it B Bennett's Surtees TS7
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edit....add in Bennett's TS8 F5000 to compare


Marc, you have the stamina of an Atomic Powerstation! I haven't seen the TS7 for a long time, and never seen the TS8, so thanks. More Zippertone/Letratone, too! I must say I have never heard of Zippertone, but there are many things that I have never heard of...

#1431 ibsenop

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Posted 15 May 2009 - 23:24

Wake up guys! Two days without posts in this thread.

LolaT 286 Cosworth
Cutaway artist: Bruno Betti

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Ibsen
http://public.fotki.com/ibsenop/



#1432 Tony Matthews

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Posted 15 May 2009 - 23:27

Wake up guys! Two days without posts in this thread.
Ibsen
http://public.fotki.com/ibsenop/



Uhh! Did somebody say something? What time is it?

#1433 Gregor Marshall

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Posted 16 May 2009 - 07:29

Uhh! Did somebody say something? What time is it?


Tuesday?

#1434 Duc-Man

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Posted 16 May 2009 - 08:51

Another Jag by Mr. Trauts:

@ Jag-Lovers

And no for something completely different: Not exactly a car but it still fits into the 'gear-head' context...

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BTW: This came up googeling 'cutaway drawing'. Does anybody know who did it?

Saturday...time flies.

Edited by Duc-Man, 16 May 2009 - 09:56.


#1435 macoran

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Posted 16 May 2009 - 09:47

LolaT 286 Cosworth
Cutaway artist: Bruno Betti
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Looks like NACA ducts to cool no rear brakes.


#1436 macoran

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Posted 16 May 2009 - 10:29

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BTW: This came up googeling 'cutaway drawing'. Does anybody know who did it?


I've got a clearer one and it is signed H BUDD or H Bubb......I think

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#1437 macoran

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Posted 16 May 2009 - 10:47

Found this, and will try and get in touch with the Bettis. Brother Bruno is still staff-artist at Quattroruote !!

http://images.google...ttp...=210&um=1

Edited by macoran, 16 May 2009 - 10:50.


#1438 ibsenop

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Posted 16 May 2009 - 10:51

Looks like NACA ducts to cool no rear brakes.


Rear brake on both sides of the gearbox. You can see them partially hidden by the coilover shocks and axle.

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#1439 macoran

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Posted 16 May 2009 - 11:24

I just dig up my attic every now and then, there is still a ton or so of paper to dig through.


Most recent diggings this past week have uncovered 30 cutaways I thought I had lost.
I will never move house again !!

Speaking of lost......I lost out bidding on a Matthews on E-bay.

But I bought a wrecked Auto Zeitung at a Queen's day rummage sale and look what was inside .....
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#1440 Tony Matthews

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Posted 16 May 2009 - 11:46

Looks like NACA ducts to cool no rear brakes.



At first, Marc, I thought you were answering a question that hadn't been asked! Yep, inboard brakes, very fashionable for a time. It's a very nice cutaway, I envy the Betti's in being commisioned to produce colour cutaways long before I made the change, and to still be commisioned!

No British magazine was interested in using my work over a long term, Autosport, and Autocourse, even turned down the opportunity of FREE cutaways - that's the difference beteween British publishing and - mostly - the rest of the World, no appreciation of artwork, especially technical art. As my great friend Gwendolyn Syrup said only the other day over a cup of Earl Grey and a cucumber sandwich, "Tony, dear, dear Tony, you are better off without them, it's pearls before swine, if anyone deserves the 'flu it's those plebeians!" She can be rather forceful when the Press is mentioned, mainly, I think, due to what she considered to be the very harsh treatment that the News of the World gave Honoria, when the rumours started about the many marriages that collapsed in the Conservative Cabinet due to her alleged fondness for Ministers.

Gwendolyn's actual word was 'appetite' but I felt that 'fondness' was kinder, Honoria's heart is in the right place, it's just that the right place happens to be in her - to quote Joseph Heller - divine fulcrum.

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#1441 Rancethebus

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Posted 16 May 2009 - 12:09

I've got a clearer one and it is signed H BUDD or H Bubb......I think

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That would be Harold Bubb. He used to work for "The Motor" magazine as well.

#1442 Rancethebus

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Posted 16 May 2009 - 12:11

Most recent diggings this past week have uncovered 30 cutaways I thought I had lost.
I will never move house again !!

Speaking of lost......I lost out bidding on a Matthews on E-bay.

But I bought a wrecked Auto Zeitung at a Queen's day rummage sale and look what was inside .....
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Was that a Matthews original?

#1443 macoran

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Posted 16 May 2009 - 12:58

Was that a Matthews original?


LAT publishing 30 x 20 print

#1444 Duc-Man

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Posted 16 May 2009 - 14:55

A Zakspeed Capri... :rolleyes:
I remember seing one of those at a race of the german hillclimb championship in the early '80s.
Must have been Herbert Stenger with this car:
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Posted 16 May 2009 - 17:00

@ Jag-Lovers

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Perhaps it may be useful to post it on the Bluebird thread also, in case Steve Holter et al do not look regularly at the Cutaway thread
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#1446 ibsenop

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Posted 16 May 2009 - 18:43

Ford Capri RS2600 Cosworth
Cutaway artist: Bruno Betti

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#1447 Tim Murray

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Posted 16 May 2009 - 19:05

Gwendolyn's actual word was 'appetite' but I felt that 'fondness' was kinder, Honoria's heart is in the right place, it's just that the right place happens to be in her - to quote Joseph Heller - divine fulcrum.

Tony, Tony, Tony - do you have any idea of the dreadful effect Miss Syrup's revelations about her great-niece is having on my young chum Bingo? He had always believed that she was as pure as the morning dew on a lovely English rose, but now . . . he is quite off his oats and has taken to the bottle. What am I to do?


#1448 macoran

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Posted 16 May 2009 - 22:16

Larger version

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I just thought I'd give Tony's M23 some company

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#1449 Fendt936

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Posted 17 May 2009 - 00:46

I just thought I'd give Tony's M23 some company

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Thanks for these
Who is the creator of the middle one ?

#1450 ibsenop

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Posted 17 May 2009 - 01:37

I just thought I'd give Tony's M23 some company

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Never saw these before. Many thanks.

First cutaway - Artist: Hostler?
Second cutaway - Artist: Bruno Betti
Detail drawings - Artist: Werner B├╝hrer

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Edited by ibsenop, 17 May 2009 - 02:00.