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#1501 Paulo Coimbra

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Posted 23 May 2009 - 21:48

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#1502 macoran

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Posted 24 May 2009 - 10:33

Brabham BT52 BMW Turbo
Cutaway by Sergio Baratto from Autocollezioni Magazine #33 February 2006. A very expensive magazine here in Brasil.

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:up: Thanks for that !
I think I saw that in an issue of Autosprint as an A1 foldout poster. Because of the size it had become very pixelated, so it didn't come
over as a very pleasant work.

Here is a BT45 from an issue of Motor Oct 15 1977. It accompanied an article on BT45 by Mike Doodson, but isn't signed or credited in the story heading.
I believe it may be a Brian Hatton.
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#1503 Tony Matthews

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Posted 24 May 2009 - 14:44

Here is a BT45 from an issue of Motor Oct 15 1977. It accompanied an article on BT45 by Mike Doodson, but isn't signed or credited in the story heading.
I believe it may be a Brian Hatton.
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Marc, I remember seeing that cutaway when the car was current, and although I can't remember who the illustrator was it is definitely not Brian Hatton. BH changed his style quite frequently, I seem to remember, certainly later on, but I have never seen him work in this style. I think it had an Italian name under it...

#1504 macoran

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Posted 24 May 2009 - 19:09

Motor magazine published a series of cutaways years ago under the title "Circuit Classics".
I have five of them.
Nr.2 1936/1937 Auto Union Type C by Terry Collins
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Nr.3 Alfa Romeo 158/159 by Lawrence Watts
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Nr.4 Maserati 250 F by Tony Matthews '81
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Nr.6 1959 Cooper Climax by Tony Matthews '81
Nr.8 Mercedes W196 by Tony Matthews '82

So, only because Tony dated his cutaways do we have an indication when Motor published this series.

Have any of you kept copies of this series ? Do you know which cars the missing numbers were about?

Motor was a large magazine in those days A4+, so these cutaways (centrespreads) will be difficult to scan
properly, but I'll do my best.


Edited by macoran, 26 May 2009 - 18:12.


#1505 Rancethebus

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Posted 24 May 2009 - 22:29

Nr.6 1959 Cooper Climax by Tony Matthews '81

Does anyone have the Cooper-Climax?

#1506 Rancethebus

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Posted 25 May 2009 - 08:53

Motor magazine published a series of cutaways years ago under the title "Circuit Classics".
I have five of them.
Nr.2 1936/1937 Auto Union Type C by Terry Collins

Nr.3 Alfa Romeo 158/159 by Lawrence Watts
Nr.4 Maserati 250 F by Tony Matthews '81
Nr.6 1959 Cooper Climax by Tony Matthews '81
Nr.8 Mercedes W196 by Tony Matthews '82


Tony am I right in thinking that some of your illustrations in this series were made into jigsaw puzzles?

#1507 macoran

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Posted 25 May 2009 - 16:05

Nr.6 1959 Cooper Climax by Tony Matthews '81

Does anyone have the Cooper-Climax?


Quoting myself "I have five of them ".............................

The Cooper will be posted once the staple holes and the fold creases have been touched up.

Now does anyone have Nr 1, 5 and 7 of the series, and any others if there were more than 8 ?

Edited by macoran, 25 May 2009 - 16:11.


#1508 Fendt936

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Posted 25 May 2009 - 23:45

Does anybody have a cutaway of either the Williams FW07D or the Williams FW08B ?(the six wheeled Williams cars.)

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Posted 26 May 2009 - 10:34


Brian re M16C. Is it possible to send me a scan of that? I have not seen it before. I will reciprocate with a photo of a 1:1 scale model of the M16B.

Also can someone tell me where to find that M16B posted a while back? Regards, Aaron

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#1510 Tony Matthews

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Posted 26 May 2009 - 11:12

Beat you to it Marc, sorry! This was based on a James Allington cutaway, as I realised there was no way I could complete what 'Motor' had asked me to do and go on the family holiday! I paid him five times for the use of his artwork what he had originaly been paid to do it, much to his amazement. That is a crap sentence. Never mind, eh? I saw a Cooper somewhere, it might have been at Donington, and added a few details, changed the 'nibbled' cuts that were a JAA hallmark, and painted it in a very short time, finishing it just before loading the family wagon and heading off for a well-earned rest.

Still can't find a trannie of the W196, quite a few 5"x4" trannies have disappeared, hope they turn up!

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#1511 Henri Greuter

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Posted 26 May 2009 - 12:17

To Tony Mattews,

Please check your PM box, thanks.

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#1512 alansart

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Posted 26 May 2009 - 13:31

and painted it in a very short time, finishing it just before loading the family wagon and heading off for a well-earned rest.


My wife got incredibly pis.. sorry, fed up when I delivered work on the way to the airport. It used to happen quite a lot :)

Now I'm mostly computer based it's not so bad as I can send it by ftp. Mind you the last time I went on holiday, I'd shut down and hidden the computer in the loft only to get a phone call that the last artwork sent was corrupt. I had to retrieve said computer and resend new artwork while the luggage was being loaded in the taxi.

For some reason I wasn't very popular :rolleyes:

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#1513 Tony Matthews

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Posted 26 May 2009 - 14:28

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Ford Cosworth GAA 3.4 litre V6. This is what engines are suposed to look like - aggressive! I'll bite your legs! Not bland and boring like so many modern engines that look as if they were designed by Samsonite.

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#1514 Tony Matthews

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Posted 26 May 2009 - 14:43

My wife got incredibly pis.. sorry, fed up when I delivered work on the way to the airport. It used to happen quite a lot :)

Now I'm mostly computer based it's not so bad as I can send it by ftp. Mind you the last time I went on holiday, I'd shut down and hidden the computer in the loft only to get a phone call that the last artwork sent was corrupt. I had to retrieve said computer and resend new artwork while the luggage was being loaded in the taxi.

For some reason I wasn't very popular :rolleyes:


Nobody knows what we've been through, Alan! I remember when Jim Allington and his then agent David Phipps relied on the time difference between London and - I think New York, I'm not certain, but USA - when arranging for delivery of a cutaway for magazine use, on a regular basis. I always worked to the deadlines given to me by commissioning editors or agencies even after I found that they were covering their backs by reducing the actual time available in case I screwed up. I took it as a challenge, but the Cooper was one that gave me a real headache on timing.


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Posted 26 May 2009 - 15:28

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Ford Cosworth GAA 3.4 litre V6. This is what engines are suposed to look like - aggressive! I'll bite your legs! Not bland and boring like so many modern engines that look as if they were designed by Samsonite.


Awesome! :clap:


#1516 macoran

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Posted 26 May 2009 - 17:21

Beat you to it Marc, sorry!

Still can't find a trannie of the W196, quite a few 5"x4" trannies have disappeared, hope they turn up!..............................WE HOPE SO TOO !!!!!!


No problem Tony, I'll hurry along and clean up the staple holes and fold creases in the W196 then


#1517 macoran

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Posted 26 May 2009 - 18:12

And here is the Merc !

Motor magazine published a series of cutaways years ago under the title "Circuit Classics".
I have five of them.
Nr.2 1936/1937 Auto Union Type C by Terry Collins
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Nr.3 Alfa Romeo 158/159 by Lawrence Watts
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Nr.4 Maserati 250 F by Tony Matthews '81
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Nr.6 1959 Cooper Climax by Tony Matthews '81
Nr.8 Mercedes W196 by Tony Matthews '82
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So, only because Tony dated his cutaways do we have an indication when Motor published this series.

Have any of you kept copies of this series ? Do you know which cars the missing numbers were about?

Motor was a large magazine in those days A4+, so these cutaways (centrespreads) will be difficult to scan
properly, but I'll do my best.


Edited by macoran, 26 May 2009 - 18:13.


#1518 Tom Johnson

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Posted 27 May 2009 - 02:01

Beat you to it Marc, sorry! This was based on a James Allington cutaway, as I realised there was no way I could complete what 'Motor' had asked me to do and go on the family holiday! I paid him five times for the use of his artwork what he had originaly been paid to do it, much to his amazement. That is a crap sentence. Never mind, eh? I saw a Cooper somewhere, it might have been at Donington, and added a few details, changed the 'nibbled' cuts that were a JAA hallmark, and painted it in a very short time, finishing it just before loading the family wagon and heading off for a well-earned rest.

Still can't find a trannie of the W196, quite a few 5"x4" trannies have disappeared, hope they turn up!

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Cool Cooper, Tony. I have not seen this. One thing I have always enjoyed about your renderings is the incredible accuracy of the Dunlop tire tread detail. Did you do the dark recessed part of the tread with a Rapidograph or was it with a brush?

Tom Out

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Posted 27 May 2009 - 06:26

Your illustration of the GA V-6 engine is brilliant Tony, Cosworth made a great engine out of one that was not highly regarded (IIRC Essex V-6)? Just as the Capris were taking it to BMW again, the fuel crisis and it became an F5000 engine.

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Posted 27 May 2009 - 08:23

...and it became an F5000 engine.

I read something like that before and thought it was a missprint. I don't understand why somebody would put a 3.4 V6 into a F5000 car. Normally you get as close to the maximum engine capacity as possible. Don't you?

#1521 Tony Matthews

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Posted 27 May 2009 - 09:16

I read something like that before and thought it was a missprint. I don't understand why somebody would put a 3.4 V6 into a F5000 car. Normally you get as close to the maximum engine capacity as possible. Don't you?


I remember being surprised to hear that it was going to be used in F5000, but I supose it was lighter than a bigger V8 - although I know the American engines are not heavyweights - and very powerful, so I think it was just down to a better power:weight ratio, and a nimbler car.

Another great Ford/Cosworth effort!

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Posted 27 May 2009 - 09:30

It may also have been because they were available and cheap, esp for a known power delivery. ISTR ads in Autosport in period for GAAs in crates for quite a while with one of the usual dealers.
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#1523 Tony Matthews

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Posted 27 May 2009 - 10:05

It may also have been because they were available and cheap, esp for a known power delivery. ISTR ads in Autosport in period for GAAs in crates for quite a while with one of the usual dealers.
Roger Lund


Wish I'd bought one!


#1524 sterling49

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Posted 27 May 2009 - 16:31

Can anyone name a car/driver that used one? I cannot be sure I know of any! I would guess Tom Walkinshaw?

#1525 Tony Matthews

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Posted 27 May 2009 - 16:45

Can anyone name a car/driver that used one? I cannot be sure I know of any! I would guess Tom Walkinshaw?


David Purley, can't remember the car, a LEC?

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Posted 27 May 2009 - 16:48

David Purley, can't remember the car, a LEC?


Chevron B30.

Alan Jones and Damien Magee also ran them in a March 75A's

Edited by alansart, 27 May 2009 - 16:50.


#1527 macoran

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Posted 27 May 2009 - 16:52

Can anyone name a car/driver that used one? I cannot be sure I know of any! I would guess Tom Walkinshaw?


Alan Jones in a Harry Stiller March 75A


#1528 sterling49

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Posted 27 May 2009 - 18:01

My memory is fading faster than I thought...............thanks guys, of course they did!

#1529 alansart

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Posted 27 May 2009 - 18:15

Others include:

Val Musetti - March 752
Guy Edwards - March 752
Bob Evans - Chevron B30
Evan Clements - Chevron B30


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Posted 27 May 2009 - 18:34

I read something like that before and thought it was a missprint. I don't understand why somebody would put a 3.4 V6 into a F5000 car. Normally you get as close to the maximum engine capacity as possible. Don't you?


I hope you will all forgive the intrusion of a long term lurker. My, possibly faulty, memory recalls that the Essex Ford V6 was allowed into the European F5000 series under a rule that allowed the use of engines homologated for FIA Group 2 touring car racing series such as the European Touring Car Championship. This was presumably in the belief that the V6's four valves per cylinder, higher revs and lighter weight would make up for its 1600cc displacement deficit relative to the Chevy V8s.

Marvellous thread....

#1531 sterling49

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Posted 27 May 2009 - 18:40

I hope you will all forgive the intrusion of a long term lurker. My, possibly faulty, memory recalls that the Essex Ford V6 was allowed into the European F5000 series under a rule that allowed the use of engines homologated for FIA Group 2 touring car racing series such as the European Touring Car Championship. This was presumably in the belief that the V6's four valves per cylinder, higher revs and lighter weight would make up for its 1600cc displacement deficit relative to the Chevy V8s.

Marvellous thread....


Blimey! Welcome Tyre Iron, you should contribute more often if you can remember little gems like this! Welcome, quit lurking :up: :wave:


#1532 bradbury west

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Posted 27 May 2009 - 19:16

The reverse notion of a stock block option
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#1533 Rancethebus

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Posted 27 May 2009 - 19:24

Others include:

Val Musetti - March 752
Guy Edwards - March 752
Bob Evans - Chevron B30
Evan Clements - Chevron B30


Val Musetti - March 752

There's a name that brings back memories. I think I am correct in saying that that his day job was as a stunt driver.


#1534 Tony Matthews

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Posted 27 May 2009 - 22:22

Cool Cooper, Tony. I have not seen this. One thing I have always enjoyed about your renderings is the incredible accuracy of the Dunlop tire tread detail. Did you do the dark recessed part of the tread with a Rapidograph or was it with a brush?

Tom Out


Brush, Tom, and I mean to give a full and detailed description of my method as soon as I have time to collect and collate the relevant info. for he who may be remotely interested. Bear with me. By that I do not mean that I am in the company of a Brown, Grizzly, Kodiak or Spectacled member of the family Ursidae, just that I'm a little busy replacing various windows and doors.


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Posted 28 May 2009 - 00:03

Ford Cosworth GAA 3.4 litre V6. This is what engines are suposed to look like - aggressive! I'll bite your legs! Not bland and boring like so many modern engines that look as if they were designed by Samsonite.


Same engine - Terry Collins cutaway

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#1536 Tony Matthews

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Posted 28 May 2009 - 09:03

Same engine - Terry Collins cutaway

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Ibsen


It's a long time since I saw that Ibsen! First time was after I had finished my version, and I was relieved to see we had chosen different view-points!


#1537 Tyre Iron

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Posted 28 May 2009 - 14:24

Did anyone ever produce an illustration of the Ford P68 F3L of 1968 or its Honker Can-Am equivalent?


Yes they did. This Theo Page cutaway was part of Ford's publicity material for the launch of the F3L in 1968

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#1538 macoran

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Posted 28 May 2009 - 20:24

Believe it or not !!!! Another Sharknose !!!
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The story behind it.
I recently managed to retrieve the library I had left in France a few years ago, and started a quick rummage through it.
Years ago, late 90's the French arm of De Agostini publications, came out with a bi-weekly on Ferrari. called “Ferrari la Passion”
The magazine covered everything that had a beans worth to do with Ferrari.
Of course I had to have them, so arranged with a local newsagent in my place of work to keep the issues as they came and I would pick them up every once a month I was over.
Road Cars / Race cars / Driver biographies / Famous Races / Model Ferraris / stuff Technical / fashion things Ferrari-ish / very famous owners…you name it, it was covered.
The run lasted a good two years, so a total of 50 odd issues A4 size 24 page magazine and a 10 page
A3 size poster/photo supplement.
Numerous cutaways, good, very good, and some downright nearly passable to a fan. Side views and some paintings
The only credits given to photographers and artists is in the colofon on the front inside cover page .
Under drawing credits, the following names are listed:
Silivana Ghioni, Alberto Ipsilanti, Jimmy Rubin and Marco Vinelli.
So one of them is the artist of the above rendering.
I will also scan the D50, and as Tony Matthews posted a cutaway of the Benetton wind-tunnel, I'll scan the Ferrari one as well.

Edited by macoran, 28 May 2009 - 20:26.


#1539 Tony Matthews

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Posted 28 May 2009 - 20:55

The super-sleuth does it again! Marc, congratulations!

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#1540 macoran

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Posted 28 May 2009 - 21:02

Alan Jones in a Harry Stiller March 75A


Remember the light blue Thursdays March well, yelping along like a doggie wanting to take the fight to the thundering Chevs.

from this site:
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The GAA victories............
31/03/1975 Brands Hatch Shellsport F5000 Great Britain David PURLEY Chevron B30 Ford GAA V6 3.4 LEC/Southern Organs F5000 Brands Hatch 117,4 km (59) Shellsport European chp.

25/08/1975 Brands Hatch Shellsport F5000 Great Britain Alan JONES March 75A Ford GAA V6 3.4 Thursdays RAM Racing F5000 Brands Hatch 119 km (60) Shellsport European chp.

06/09/1975 Oulton Park Gold Cup Great Britain David PURLEY Chevron B30 Ford GAA V6 3.4 LEC/Southern Organs Racing Team F5000 Oulton Park 133,5 km (50) Shellsport European chp.

28/09/1975 Silverstone Shellsport F5000 Great Britain Alan JONES March 75A Ford GAA V6 3.4 Thursdays RAM Racing F5000 Silverstone 117,4 km (25) Shellsport European chp.


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Posted 29 May 2009 - 15:22

Some days ago I found some magazine-photos of my teenager time.
In those years I was a kind of marabunta-ant, I was cut out all the pics that I was finding in the magazines and I was stick or glue them in the walls of my room (from 1976 until 1980)
Everything ended when dad, mom, sister and me move to another house... The walls of my room remained completely ruined and my parents prohibited me to continue with my "decorative practices"...
Well, between the old papers that survived of those years I found a Lotus 80 cutaway. It was very damaged by the years and the glue... hard work with the Photoshop to turn the original into something presentable.
Sorry, I don't know in what magazine was published...

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#1542 macoran

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Posted 29 May 2009 - 18:31

Some days ago I found some magazine-photos of my teenager time.
In those years I was a kind of marabunta-ant, I was cut out all the pics that I was finding in the magazines and I was stick or glue them in the walls of my room (from 1976 until 1980)
Everything ended when dad, mom, sister and me move to another house... The walls of my room remained completely ruined and my parents prohibited me to continue with my "decorative practices"...
Well, between the old papers that survived of those years I found a Lotus 80 cutaway. It was very damaged by the years and the glue... hard work with the Photoshop to turn the original into something presentable.
Sorry, I don't know in what magazine was published...

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Author? :confused:

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Welcome Clint !!!, I hope you find a lot more good stuff from the mid 70's to 80's to post.
If you give us an idea where you are from, where you may have bought the magazine, some of us
may be able to narrow down who the artist might be.

Anyway....a jewel of a find !!! I didn't know the 80 was ever subject of cutaway until this post of yours !

Oh!!! I hope you and mum and dad are still on speaking terms ?

Edited by macoran, 29 May 2009 - 18:33.


#1543 macoran

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Posted 29 May 2009 - 19:06

I hope you will all forgive the intrusion of a long term lurker. My, possibly faulty, memory recalls that the Essex Ford V6 was allowed into the European F5000 series under a rule that allowed the use of engines homologated for FIA Group 2 touring car racing series such as the European Touring Car Championship. This was presumably in the belief that the V6's four valves per cylinder, higher revs and lighter weight would make up for its 1600cc displacement deficit relative to the Chevy V8s.

Marvellous thread....


Welcome..............to use my favourite expressive............stop "buggering about " lurking !!! Join us and post away with your gems of memory and knowledge.


#1544 Mick144

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Posted 29 May 2009 - 19:27

Hi Everybody

Very interested in this topic of cutaways, sorry to just barge in but new to this kind of thing so if it the wrong way to join in sorry, still to work out this forum thing. I am a technical illustrator infact it was Mr Matthews who inspired me 30 years ago. (sorry to mention the tim e factor) I still produce cutaways of cars mainly for my own pleasure, sorry to say

#1545 macoran

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Posted 29 May 2009 - 20:07

I still produce cutaways of cars mainly for my own pleasure, sorry to say


Welcome !! but if you carry on doing things for your own pleasure here, you'll be labelled an egotist !
Come on Mick....POST !! and show

#1546 Mick144

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Posted 29 May 2009 - 20:24

Still trying to work out how to reply cant see any reply button

Next will be trying to get a sample on to this bear with me

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Posted 29 May 2009 - 20:25

Next will be trying to get a sample on to this bear with me

while I,m trying you could look at my website www.freelancetechnicalillustration.com

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#1548 macoran

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Posted 29 May 2009 - 20:36

Still trying to work out how to reply cant see any reply button



The reply button is here Mick >>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>> \/

Edited by macoran, 29 May 2009 - 20:38.


#1549 Mick144

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Posted 29 May 2009 - 20:41

The reply button is here Mick >>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>> \/

I know I know I'm getting there . cant work out how to post something! any clues?

#1550 Tony Matthews

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Posted 29 May 2009 - 20:47

I know I know I'm getting there . cant work out how to post something! any clues?


No. You're on your own! :)