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#2001 Duc-Man

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Posted 23 July 2009 - 13:12

Post #2000? ...sorry for not paying attention. :|

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#2002 Tony Matthews

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Posted 23 July 2009 - 13:20

Post #2000? ...sorry for not paying attention. :|

That's OK, just keep a look-out for #3000! ;)

#2003 seasalt

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Posted 23 July 2009 - 15:41


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#2004 macoran

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Posted 23 July 2009 - 18:49

Ha ha! I was waiting for Bonde to get post #2000, I don't know if anyone else was! Oh well, D-M, it's yours now, and interesting, thanks.

It could be a case of - 'You got a bunch of guys here about to turn blue...'!


blue....hmmmm....I even mailed AB to post, so he probably buggered off on holiday without telling us.
blue.... I am so p.....off I am actually purple
I mailed Ibsen and said we'd just exchange stuff waiting for AB to post the 2000th
AB 'll probably turn up tomorrow and say Hi chaps I didn't know nuthing.

Just realized, a poster could turn up and wonder what the blazes this AB stuff is about,
I'll blow a gut then !

let's continue

Not a cutaway, but to thank Tony and Vadim for the DN1
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I collect and really appreciate Bührer's work.

BTW this wouldn't be the annotated work referred to a few posts ago.
I think not, because I have work of another artist whose name escapes me for the moment..........
worse even more is..........his work escapes me ...I can't find it.... and I am sure I have his Blower Bentley and his BRM V-16.

but... you chaps know me...I'll find it somewhere, somehow, some time... come wotsit or high water.

Edited by macoran, 23 July 2009 - 19:04.


#2005 Tony Matthews

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Posted 23 July 2009 - 19:13

blue....hmmmm....I even mailed AB to post, so he probably buggered off on holiday without telling us.
blue.... I am so p.....off I am actually purple
I mailed Ibsen and said we'd just exchange stuff waiting for AB to post the 2000th
AB 'll probably turn up tomorrow and say Hi chaps I didn't know nuthing.

Just realized, a poster could turn up and wonder what the blazes this AB stuff is about,
I'll blow a gut then !


So it wasn't just me then! The weird thing is that on the Forum home-page the number of posts per thread is one behind - unless I've missed something. Ho hum.



#2006 Andre Acker

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Posted 23 July 2009 - 19:23


Not a cutaway, but to thank Tony and Vadim for the DN1

I collect and really appreciate Bührer's work.

BTW this wouldn't be the annotated work referred to a few posts ago.
I think not, because I have work of another artist whose name escapes me for the moment..........
worse even more is..........his work escapes me ...I can't find it.... and I am sure I have his Blower Bentley and his BRM V-16.

but... you chaps know me...I'll find it somewhere, somehow, some time... come wotsit or high water.
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Hi "macoran" !

Is it possible to have more (as much as you have !) Bührer's works ?

They are FANTASTIC !!!

Many thanks, best regards.
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#2007 macoran

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Posted 23 July 2009 - 19:57

as much as you have........?!!

since they are not cutaways, I suppose they should be posted elsewhere

so

pm me your e-mail and I'll send you a slight overdose

#2008 macoran

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Posted 23 July 2009 - 20:01

So it wasn't just me then! The weird thing is that on the Forum home-page the number of posts per thread is one behind - unless I've missed something. Ho hum.


I think the home-page doesn't count the first post, or the last...or....euhm
let me think
why bother...
my Finkbrau is cold
Cheers

Me

I am a lucky man, my favourite postman will be by soon.

#2009 macoran

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Posted 23 July 2009 - 20:07

Tony I have just checked.
The Forum home=page seems to count the opening post as just that, and then registers and lists the number of replies.
So, AB opened the thread, 2009 responses make 2010 posts.
AB wouldn't have been the 2000th poster on the home page register anyway


As you can see I am busy attacking 3000>>

hmm, how many cutaways do I still have to scan ?

Fresh Finkbrau please, and my pills.

Edited by macoran, 23 July 2009 - 20:15.


#2010 ibsenop

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Posted 24 July 2009 - 00:13

Maserati Tipo 61 Birdcage
Who is the artist? I can't read his signature.

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#2011 Tony Matthews

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Posted 24 July 2009 - 07:59

Maserati Tipo 61 Birdcage
Who is the artist? I can't read his signature.

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Makoto Ouchi, Ibsen, if you check Kevin Hulsey's web site the 'Birdcage' is M Ouchi's introductory illustration. I'll see if I can provide a link, just to show I am still capable of learning!

http://www.khulsey.c...he_cutaway.html

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#2012 Duc-Man

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Posted 24 July 2009 - 08:22

Mark, thanks for that DN1. I have two of Bührer's drawing in the Brooklands Book 'Can-Am Racing Cars 1966-1974'. It's the McLaren M8F and the Lola T260. Awesome work.
A place to post stuff like that: there is somewhere around here a thread about race/car paintings going on.

I found it! Historic F1, Rally & Sportscar drawings

#2013 IrishMariner

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Posted 25 July 2009 - 05:31

I have just found this thread and am genuinely sitting here with a smile on my face.

As en ex-engine designer, my personal favourites were the beautiful paintings I recall seeing, especially in Car & Driver / Road & Track in the 1970s and 80s. These were paintings of the exteriors of engines and were characterised by the artist's scrawled pencil notes.

The closest match to this style that I have seen is the painting undertaken by Alan Crisp of a Bugatti engine. This painting is owned by Peter Agg (of Trojan McLaren fame) who at the time it was created (1976) owned several racing and road-going Bugattis. My posting skills are insufficient to display Alan Crisp's painting.

Can anyone name the artist(s) of my favoured paintings with the pencilled notes?

Whilst posting, may I add another couple of artists to the list of cutaway specialists? Lawrie Watts - most notable for his motorcycle engines - but there are many examples of his car cutaways in David Dixon's 2006 biography of Lawrie Watta called 'Watts My Line?' (Redline Books). Another cutaway artist called John Hancox is mentioned on the jacket.

Ray Battersby


I'd hazard a guess that it's the late Bob Freeman. You can view his work - and buy prints at his website: www.bobfreeman.co.uk

He did a fantastic annotated drawing of the Subaru WRC semi-automatic gearbox for 'Cars & Car Conversions' magazine that is one of the best I've ever seen. Full of notes pointing to such details as the banjo fittings of the hydraulic system

#2014 macoran

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Posted 25 July 2009 - 10:23

Mark, thanks for that DN1. I have two of Bührer's drawing in the Brooklands Book 'Can-Am Racing Cars 1966-1974'. It's the McLaren M8F and the Lola T260. Awesome work.
A place to post stuff like that: there is somewhere around here a thread about race/car paintings going on.

I found it! Historic F1, Rally & Sportscar drawings

Bührer also did the M8E, M20 and Porsche 917-10. The Porsche 917K and Ferrari 512S. All the 1972 F1s , all the 73 F1 monocoques/suspensions,
all the Ferrari 312 F1s, a series of 1973 F1s complete, the March Alfa 711, Honda RA302 F1
I also should have an Indy Eagle somewhere.

but I digress

This is an Eagle by Roy Huxley
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#2015 Duc-Man

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Posted 25 July 2009 - 12:15

I guess you mean this M20:

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I know it's 'off topic' but:

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#2016 macoran

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Posted 25 July 2009 - 12:21

I guess you mean this M20:


I know it's 'off topic' but:

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That's the M20 yes.

Your '' off topic' made me smile ! good one

#2017 ibsenop

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Posted 26 July 2009 - 00:04

Lola T70 MkIII coupe by Hatton

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#2018 Tony Matthews

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Posted 26 July 2009 - 00:55

Lola T70 MkIII coupe by Hatton

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I was born too late! I wish I had had the chance to draw these wonderful Sports Racers!

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Posted 26 July 2009 - 16:28

I was born too late! I wish I had had the chance to draw these wonderful Sports Racers!


I was born way too late. I wish I had the chance to see those cars racing back in the day. :cry:

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#2020 alansart

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Posted 26 July 2009 - 18:40

I was born too late! I wish I had had the chance to draw these wonderful Sports Racers!


You still can :wave:

#2021 macoran

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Posted 26 July 2009 - 20:12

Found this cutaway in an ad which at the time appeared in Autosport (it says so on the centre spread Photo). The ad has faded over the years, this is the best my scanner could make of it.
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The text:
To celebrate their Design Council award and Robin Herd’s Duke of Edinburgh’s Designer Prize
for their Indianapolis winning March 84C, March Engineering have commissioned a Limited
Edition fine art print of Tony Matthews superb cutaway drawing of the car.
All 500 31 x 21 inch prints are signed by the Artist and 47 (the number of 84C’s built) co-signed
By Robin Herd.

Raises a question in my wee brain....Have many prints have you signed in total through the years Tony ? Rough guesstimate ?

Edited by macoran, 26 July 2009 - 20:16.


#2022 Tony Matthews

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Posted 26 July 2009 - 20:27

Raises a question in my wee brain....Have many prints have you signed in total through the years Tony ? Rough guesstimate ?

Five hundred as Tony Matthews and 47 as Robin Herd... ;)

#2023 Tony Matthews

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Posted 26 July 2009 - 20:29

You still can :wave:

Be still, my beating heart...!

#2024 Tony Matthews

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Posted 26 July 2009 - 20:58

Raises a question in my wee brain....Have many prints have you signed in total through the years Tony ? Rough guesstimate ?

To give a more serious answer, Marc, probably less than 5,000 - I can't remember them all, a couple of '500's', and several '250's'. It really is a pain, especially the larger ones, you need a lot of space and preferably someone to help, as you can only handle a few at a time before having to stack them and take another few, so you are up and down from your chair, trying not to crease or smudge the prints, trying to remember how many you've signed, and - this sounds crazy - trying to remember how to spell your name! This may not aply to anyone else, but the tedium really gets to me, and at about the 400-mark I get a sort of seizure, and start to leave letters out! I firmly believe that each of my signatures in a sequence reduces the value of the print by 1%.

#2025 macoran

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Posted 26 July 2009 - 21:22

Pssssst Anders...
here's a Serge Bellu for you
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Posted 27 July 2009 - 00:11

Ferrari 125 1948 cutaway by Giulio Betti

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#2027 Manel Bar

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Posted 27 July 2009 - 08:42

Ferrari 125 1948 cutaway by Giulio Betti

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Bravo! Muito Obrigado!


#2028 Henri Greuter

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Posted 27 July 2009 - 14:55

Bravo! Muito Obrigado!



To Tony Mattews....

I send a PM to you because of one drawing I found in a Indy press kit I obtained and was very surprised to see it in there....


henri

#2029 macoran

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Posted 27 July 2009 - 20:11

one drawing I found in a Indy press kit I obtained and was very surprised to see it in there....
henri


Ahhhh henri has found.............
wait for it !!

#2030 macoran

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Posted 27 July 2009 - 20:13

pm me your e-mail and I'll send you a slight overdose


You should be doing a good sitting on the shot of mails I sent you Andre

Edited by macoran, 27 July 2009 - 20:20.


#2031 ibsenop

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Posted 28 July 2009 - 01:44

Ferrari 500 F2 1952 by Bruno Betti

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#2032 Tony Matthews

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Posted 28 July 2009 - 08:33

Ferrari 500 F2 1952 by Bruno Betti

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I think that is the first B&W Bruno Betti illustration I have seen - very nice, I like the quality of line, and very different to Jim Allington's work.

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Posted 28 July 2009 - 10:43

Ahhhh henri has found.............
wait for it !!



Macoran,

I am sorry but there is nothing to post. But to satify your curiosity, it was about a drawing by Tony that he already posted in this thread. But then I found a version of it in a press kit and I realized instantly that there had to be a story behind it for it to appear ain a press kit.
And that was something I verified with Tony.
Nothing new for this thread, regrettably.

Better luck next time....

Henri

#2034 Option1

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Posted 28 July 2009 - 12:31

I do feel sorry for the blokes that had to drive these cars. It must have been awfully drafty for them.;)

On a more serious note, I'm simply astounded at the detail, the skill and the artistry of these fabulous works. As someone who has trouble drawing a recognizable stick figure, I am in awe.

Thank you for posting them.

Neil

#2035 Tony Matthews

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Posted 28 July 2009 - 13:51

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Thanks Neil, on behalf of everyone! Your comment about stick-men made me wonder about the human form appearing in technical illustrations of competition cars - I've done two, and I must say, with initial reluctance. My first thought was that it spoilt the 'purity' of the cutaway, but then I regarded it as a challenge, cor!, let me at it! And of course, the customer is always right...

Having learned first hand that a surprising number of spectators have/had no idea that the driver's legs extend into the front of the tub it is important that it be shown, the illustrations I did for most clients were not for an elite readership, but for general use during a race season, so it is valid.

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#2036 macoran

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Posted 28 July 2009 - 21:59

Bruno Betti again, this time a McLaren.....the MP4/5B
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#2037 ibsenop

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Posted 29 July 2009 - 00:36

Bruno Betti again, but this time another Ferrari.....the 641/2 1990

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#2038 Tony Matthews

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Posted 29 July 2009 - 08:03

Bruno Betti again, but this time another Ferrari.....the 641/2 1990

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Both the Bettis managed to make the shiney bits of the cars they illustrated really sparkle. I had my moments, like the BRM V16 header tank, and various radiators or polished/chromed bits, but perhaps I see things slightly differently - I think it's more a case of me being a bit pedantic, and not wanting to exaggerate, whatever, that Ferrari is very shiney! I was about to say very red, too, but on reflection - is it a bit too red, wasn't 'Ferrari Red' a bit duller that year?

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Posted 29 July 2009 - 08:17

Both the Bettis managed to make the shiney bits of the cars they illustrated really sparkle. I had my moments, like the BRM V16 header tank, and various radiators or polished/chromed bits, but perhaps I see things slightly differently - I think it's more a case of me being a bit pedantic, and not wanting to exaggerate, whatever, that Ferrari is very shiney! I was about to say very red, too, but on reflection - is it a bit too red, wasn't 'Ferrari Red' a bit duller that year?


Agree, this looks 'warmer' more like the Marlboro kind of red.
Should have been more 'blood' red.

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#2040 ibsenop

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Posted 29 July 2009 - 10:44

Could not be Betti fault. I din't see the original.
All my scans have more vivid colours. Could be my scanner or the adjustments on it.
My printed images are more natural than on the screen.

Ibsen

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#2041 Esprit

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Posted 29 July 2009 - 12:24

Hi everyone. Sorry a I cannot speak english well. Only elementary. This is beautiful topic. Yeasterday I printed some drawing. Now i have new beautiful decorations So thank you. I hope that here will be most another drawings. I d like to thanks to all for new informations and posts. Ciao Esprit from Czech rep.

Here is my small contribution:

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#2042 Duc-Man

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Posted 29 July 2009 - 12:39

That Ferrari 312 history...that's nice.

#2043 f1steveuk

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Posted 29 July 2009 - 12:54

The style of those last drawings, the same as used to appear in the Marlboro guides in the 1970s??

#2044 ibsenop

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Posted 29 July 2009 - 16:27

All the drawings above by Bührer

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Posted 29 July 2009 - 17:09

Esprit:

Nice, thank you!

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Posted 29 July 2009 - 18:55

Thank you and here is another

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#2047 Tony Matthews

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Posted 29 July 2009 - 20:47

Very nice - I used to have all the Marlboro guides, but gone now, who knows where...

#2048 Esprit

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Posted 29 July 2009 - 21:16

Renault F1
Im lazy to find the type of this monoposto. I think that this is the winning formula 2006 year?

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#2049 macoran

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Posted 29 July 2009 - 21:41

Renault F1
Im lazy to find the type of this monoposto
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2006 Renault R26 mate
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http://www.f1-fansit...t-R26-3-800.jpg

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#2050 Esprit

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Posted 29 July 2009 - 23:44

Very nice photo.

Btw I added 4 creations from Buhrer to post 2047 Enjoy. I think thats all what i have from him.