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#2201 Tony Matthews

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Posted 14 August 2009 - 22:21

I always take notice of a expert, Marc...

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#2202 macoran

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Posted 14 August 2009 - 22:23

Three pills Tony ?

Time for another TC
B192
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Posted 14 August 2009 - 22:24

Chasers are mandatory! , all medicinal intake is to be done with sufficient liquid !


I always thought a chaser was simply a second glass of whatever the first one was? Message from "She Who Must be Obeyed" (the nurse), "Yes, medicinal intake should be done with sufficient liquid....................that does not mean a tall glass of scotch with valium!!" ............cheers!

#2204 macoran

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Posted 14 August 2009 - 22:29

I always thought a chaser was simply a second glass of whatever the first one was? Message from "She Who Must be Obeyed" (the nurse), "Yes, medicinal intake should be done with sufficient liquid....................that does not mean a tall glass of scotch with valium!!" ............cheers!

Water makes me burp
Why would one drink water anyway ? Fish and frogs have sex in it !!!!!!
Sparkling water gives me a headache, the bubbles in my brain !!, I bleed my brakes now an then but not my head !
Tall glass yes, but who said anything about valium ?

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#2205 beighes

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Posted 14 August 2009 - 22:39

Water makes me burp
Why would one drink water anyway ? Fish and frogs have sex in it !!!!!!
Sparkling water gives me a headache, the bubbles in my brain !!, I bleed my brakes now an then but not my head !
Tall glass yes, but who said anything about valium ?


Do not worry about what she says. "She" does not like scotch or Boddingtons. To become slightly pertinent regarding this thread, water is also the enemy of any drawing or illustration.

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Posted 14 August 2009 - 23:04

Lancia Ferrari D50 by Betti

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#2207 ibsenop

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Posted 15 August 2009 - 00:35

Marc,

the only other Benetton cutaway I have is the B193B by Bruno Betti

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#2208 macoran

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Posted 15 August 2009 - 10:18

Thanks Ibsen,
I'll add in Terry Collins' rendering of B193B
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#2209 macoran

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Posted 15 August 2009 - 23:18

and, last Benetton for now
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#2210 ibsenop

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Posted 16 August 2009 - 03:44

I spend all my day looking for this cutaway:

Benetton B190 by Terry Collins

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#2211 macoran

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Posted 16 August 2009 - 10:45

I spend all my day looking for this cutaway:
Ibsen


We must be very alike Ibsen. I usually find what I am looking just before I want to give up.
..................So I have decided to give up sooner nowadays.................... :yawnface:

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#2212 macoran

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Posted 16 August 2009 - 22:07

Missing a post now...............I have looked but I haven't found anything on Terry Collins work after his Benetton series.

#2213 Tony Matthews

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Posted 16 August 2009 - 23:24

I don't remember seeing anything by Terry Collins after the Benetton series, Marc. I spoke to him briefly about twenty years ago, when he phoned me about an article in 'Motor' magazine about thr Betti brothers.

#2214 Tony Matthews

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Posted 17 August 2009 - 14:38

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March Buick 85G. To paraphrase Crocodile Dundee - "Call that an intercooler? That's an intercooler!"

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Posted 17 August 2009 - 15:30

I am a working Illustrator (not in Europe though) and just wanted to say how much I have enjoyed this thread as Tony Matthews is one of my all time inspirations and heroes. Viewing all the working drawings has just been incredible. Here is a drawing I did a while back while working at the Petersen Automotive Museum. I would wait for the Museum to close then take the cars apart!

- I just finished the art for this Year's Monterey Historic Races if there are any Porsche fans here: http://www.hatchillu...ey_Porsche.html

- Also just finished a poster for the Historic Grand Prix if there are any 3 litre F1 fans here: http://www.hatchillu...HGP_poster.html

All the best and thanks Tony!!!

Jim
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Jim,

I've come across your website a couple of times already over the last year or so.

Great stuff, and it's good to see somebody is still "doing it" :)

Cheers,

Alan



#2216 Tom Johnson

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Posted 17 August 2009 - 16:53

I am a working Illustrator (not in Europe though) and just wanted to say how much I have enjoyed this thread as Tony Matthews is one of my all time inspirations and heroes. Viewing all the working drawings has just been incredible. Here is a drawing I did a while back while working at the Petersen Automotive Museum. I would wait for the Museum to close then take the cars apart!

- I just finished the art for this Year's Monterey Historic Races if there are any Porsche fans here: http://www.hatchillu...ey_Porsche.html

- Also just finished a poster for the Historic Grand Prix if there are any 3 litre F1 fans here: http://www.hatchillu...HGP_poster.html

All the best and thanks Tony!!!

Jim
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Hi Jim,

Just curious, did you ever completely render the Nissan? BTW, It's a lovely line drawing.

Tom



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Posted 17 August 2009 - 19:31

Hi Tom,

I had all intentions of finishing the Nissan rendering but work got in the way so I just stuck it on my web site and there it stayed! I actually met Kimble at his Los Angeles studio a long while back and it was quite an experience.


Jim

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Posted 17 August 2009 - 19:39

Jim,

I've come across your website a couple of times already over the last year or so.

Great stuff, and it's good to see somebody is still "doing it" :)

Cheers,

Alan

Thanks Alan, I actually came here looking for Tony, prior to his showing up! Kevin and I had been looking for him for a while. So cool to see all his art here.

Jim



#2219 Tony Matthews

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Posted 17 August 2009 - 21:22

... I actually came here looking for Tony, prior to his showing up!

Jim



Post #66 in fact Jim! I thought I recognised the monica, even though it was before I got sucked in - in the nicest possible way, you understand. Well, second nicest...

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Posted 18 August 2009 - 13:57

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March Buick 85G. To paraphrase Crocodile Dundee - "Call that an intercooler? That's an intercooler!"


Really nice car from golden age of sportsprototype races!

#2221 Tony Matthews

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Posted 18 August 2009 - 14:39

Really nice car from golden age of sportsprototype races!

You're not wrong, darky, lovely big cars! I don't know why but I don't get so excited about current sports racers, I don't think it's just me...

#2222 Tony Matthews

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Posted 18 August 2009 - 20:02

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Detail from Ilmor 265E/500I engine cutaway...

#2223 Daytona 935

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Posted 18 August 2009 - 21:45

I can "walk" into this engine for hours , just like i do into the Piranese's prisons.

Thank you so much Mr Matthews , it's such a wonderfull present to share a bit of your "tears and sweat" with us. If pencils would have a flavor , i'm sure i could smell it through this forum !

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Posted 19 August 2009 - 03:27

You're not wrong, darky, lovely big cars! I don't know why but I don't get so excited about current sports racers, I don't think it's just me...


I would agree. My son bemoans the fact that he missed those years of Group C and IMSA. The battles of Jaguar vs Nissan vs Porsche vs the odd manufacturer was remarkable. I think the current cars are beautiful, but a bit antiseptic. I also find a bit more curious that until the past year or so that the old Group C cars were in many ways faster. The track record at the 24 Hours of Daytona is still held by Dan Gurney's AAR Toyota. They are faster by atleast 6 seconds I believe and it wasn't till 2007 that they beat the same car's lap record at Lime Rock. On a side note, that March with Turbo Buick power holds the track record at Sebring at 133.13 MPH.

#2225 Tom Johnson

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Posted 19 August 2009 - 14:05

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Detail from Ilmor 265E/500I engine cutaway...


Wickedly splendid drawing Tony! :up: :up: :up: Are the lighter pencil marks on a separate layer underneath? Also, Do you remember how much time it took to create the drawing?

Tom

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#2226 Tony Matthews

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Posted 19 August 2009 - 14:39

Wickedly splendid drawing Tony! :up: :up: :up: Are the lighter pencil marks on a separate layer underneath? Also, Do you remember how much time it took to create the drawing?

Tom

Hello Tom, how the devil are you? Thanks, 'wickedly' makes me feel, cool, hip or bad, not a feeling I'm used to. All the marks are on one layer, but the timing gears were done on a small separate piece of film for some reason, and this was slipped underneath and traced in ink, which is why that area looks a bit cleaner. I can't remember the time it took to get to this stage, all my old work diaries are up in the loft... the loft! Ooh, the flies, the cobwebs, the little old toothless woman with her owl...

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#2227 Tony Matthews

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Posted 19 August 2009 - 15:06

I can "walk" into this engine for hours , just like i do into the Piranese's prisons.

Thank you, to my shame I had to Google Piranese, his work looks fascinating - I have always loved Escher's drawings, both for their strange but believable perspective and the draftmanship.

A female guest once stood in front of the finished painting of the 265E and gradually got closer and closer, refusing to join the others in the next room. Eventually she said "You can walk right inside that bit, and round the corner!" She was refering to a water passage in the head - she had no idea of its significance, just liked the look of it. It is gratifying when someone takes time to scrutinize a cutaway, rather than - as has happened on more than one occasion - stride past, give a fleeting glance and say in a loud voice "Euw! I don't like them!" In the days when I exhibited I was always gently cajoling those viewers that stood some way back "Come closer, the closer you get, the more you see!" and sometimes it would work, and a couple would realise that it wasn't just a collection of external renderings, but there was much more to see.

#2228 Tony Matthews

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Posted 19 August 2009 - 15:20

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Just remembered that there were two 'underlays', timing gears and cam shaft/rocker shaft and followers, as the main drawing was getting a bit grubby.

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#2229 macoran

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Posted 19 August 2009 - 21:21

Quite a few posts ago, there was a bit of discussion about cutaways with drivers drawn in the driving seat.
Tony even posted part of a cutaway showing a driver in his place of work.
In this one Sergio Baratto shows two drivers having a chat before they start on a run.
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Amazing how Baratto has managed to capture the drivers' (Reutemann and Lauda) looks with just a few brush strokes.
Especially Niki Lauda !.......I find amazing !

#2230 Tony Matthews

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Posted 19 August 2009 - 22:02

That's a real novelty! You couldn't mistake Reutemann and Lauda - very clever. I wonder if there are others, Marc.

I kicked my heels in Hemel Hempstead for an hour or more today, the result was that I bought the Eagle Annual of Cutaways. Amazing - and a lot of them have figures, so many cutaways, so little time...

#2231 macoran

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Posted 19 August 2009 - 22:17

the result was that I bought the Eagle Annual of Cutaways.

I've heard a lot about that, but never have seen anything.
The Dutch cartoon mag Donald Duck did a run of F1 car drawings a long time ago, I'll see if I can find them.
I remember they were from the year of the Arrows A1B, so I'll have to dig up the loft again !!

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Posted 20 August 2009 - 22:42

Ferrari 500 F2 by Betti.

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Posted 21 August 2009 - 01:31

Rondeau M371C 1981 by Serge Bellu

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Posted 22 August 2009 - 21:19

Another new name in cutaway land.........Marco Siotto his Ferrari 312 T2
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#2235 Tony Matthews

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Posted 22 August 2009 - 21:45

Another new name in cutaway land.........Marco Siotto his Ferrari 312 T2
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Well done again, Marc - macoran and ibsenop, the bloodhounds of Cutawayland, tireless, indefatigable and heroic - I wonder how many illustrators, or people who wanted to be illustrators, there are who only ever did one published work. I'm not suggesting that Marco Siotto didn't do more, but there must be some who only ever did one...

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Posted 22 August 2009 - 22:40

BRM P57 1962 by Serge Bellu

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Posted 23 August 2009 - 11:08

Some stuff that popped up on google:

A Bruno Betti Opel Kadett A:
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A Lotus Eprit. I just can't really read the artists last name.
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Okay that's not exactly a drawing...
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Posted 23 August 2009 - 11:16

Thanks for all these new drawings!!
Just amazing !! :love:

#2239 Tony Matthews

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Posted 23 August 2009 - 14:40

A Lotus Eprit. I just can't really read the artists last name.

I think it is 'Dibben', D-M, I Googled the name and he is an artist/illustrator, mainly landscapes, left college in 1972 - and, most interestingly, is based in Norfolk, home of Lotus Cars! If anyone wants to send me a cigar, I will accept it graciously. But I could be wrong... I was going to e-mail him, but the site with his e-address was playing silly-buggers, I might try again later.

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Posted 23 August 2009 - 17:02

I have sent an e-mail, and am now waiting...I will be surpised if it aint him, if I'm wrong there will be a deer-stalker hat, violin and meerschaum pipe on E-bay quicker than you can say 'elementary'.

Edited to say the mail has been returned - address unknown, no such number, no such zone... I can feel a song coming on...but I've got a phone number I can try tomorrow!

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#2241 macoran

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Posted 23 August 2009 - 20:56

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Triumph Stag, not signed or credited in the story byline....but Vic Berris I am sure

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Posted 23 August 2009 - 21:29

Lotus 25 by Serge Bellu

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Posted 23 August 2009 - 21:53

Lotus 25 by Serge Bellu

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My name isn't Ripley...but Believe it..or Not I had just pulled it out of my files to scan :rotfl:

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Posted 24 August 2009 - 19:23

Another Bruno Betti
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Keke Rosberg's 1976 F2 TOJ (Team Obermoser Jorg) 201

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Posted 24 August 2009 - 21:51

Have all cutaway fans looked at the Essex and Thieme thread to see Tony's cutaway of the Team Essex Lotus hospitality unit ?

#2246 Tony Matthews

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Posted 25 August 2009 - 07:16

Have all cutaway fans looked at the Essex and Thieme thread to see Tony's cutaway of the Team Essex Lotus hospitality unit ?

Sorry Marc, I feel as if I've been unfaithful! Do you want it here as well?

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Posted 25 August 2009 - 22:39

I was only checking if all cutaway faithfuls were following the necessary rituals, Tony.......post away!
I saw it first time on the 5th February this year at 10.29.

Anyway..........I'd like to introduce Bob Thatcher now.....with his Ferrari 555 Super Squalo
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Posted 26 August 2009 - 08:48

At least , if only one must stay focused......count on me :)

And yes , the Essex "Rolling hotel" have his place here , hmmm just my 2 cents.

While i'm typing on my keyboard , may i ask to everyone follwing this thread , if a cutaway of a Porsche 908.3 have ever been seen ?

I'm simply nut about that car , and i could offer a lot of.....consideration to the first one of you who could find one.

Have a nice day

#2249 Tony Matthews

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Posted 26 August 2009 - 09:18

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Here it is, all blue, red and chrome - back then it seemed the bees knees, but nowadays, parked in any F1 paddock, it would look tiny and cramped, not so much F1 as FF.

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#2250 Daytona 935

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Posted 26 August 2009 - 10:17

'Tony Matthews'
Here it is, all blue,......


Yep , the first impression at first view was.....blue !
Normal some should answer , Essex's colors wasn't made of green , but the "blue impression" is really reinforced by the cutaway , because all the sofas , chairs and tents.
And the red touches seem to be here only to make the blue more blue

My son would play like a mad with such a palace if only it were "playmobil" sized...:D

Edited by Daytona 935, 26 August 2009 - 10:18.