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#2301 beighes

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Posted 28 August 2009 - 23:13


Maintenant, pour tout autre chose ......

Question for those much wiser, " Has anyone seen work signed , Basil ?" This afternoon I unearthed a simple cut away line drawing of the Rob Walker/Brooke Bond Oxo Lotus 72. As soon as I can get my coal fired scanner operational, I'll post it. Until then, you get the question.

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#2302 macoran

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Posted 28 August 2009 - 23:30

Maintenant, pour tout autre chose ......

Question for those much wiser, " Has anyone seen work signed , Basil ?" This afternoon I unearthed a simple cut away line drawing of the Rob Walker/Brooke Bond Oxo Lotus 72. As soon as I can get my coal fired scanner operational, I'll post it. Until then, you get the question.

Steve


Now I never !!! Fawlty you never could draw even a straight line !

sorry beighes, I got carried away, and I'm not even "pret a porter"

#2303 Tony Matthews

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Posted 28 August 2009 - 23:43

Maintenant, pour tout autre chose ......

Question for those much wiser, " Has anyone seen work signed , Basil ?"

Basil Brush?

Eh bien, bonne nuit mes enfants, j'ai fatigue, et domain c'est le qualification pour le Grand Prix de Belgie!

XXX Toine Mathieux, le veritable amateur de polyphenols!

#2304 beighes

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Posted 29 August 2009 - 00:06

Basil Brush?

Eh bien, bonne nuit mes enfants, j'ai fatigue, et domain c'est le qualification pour le Grand Prix de Belgie!

XXX Toine Mathieux, le veritable amateur de polyphenols!


No, very neatly done with a pen.

Steve

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#2305 onelung

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Posted 29 August 2009 - 04:03

merde ! ... :confused:

#2306 beighes

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Posted 29 August 2009 - 04:34

merde ! ... :confused:


I couldn't agree more.

#2307 RDV

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Posted 29 August 2009 - 07:03

Allez pas la, mes enfants, sort du pinard et une baguette avec des cornichons...on y parlera des zingues plus tard, apres le rouge...

#2308 Tony Matthews

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Posted 29 August 2009 - 07:58

Allez pas la, mes enfants, sort du pinard et une baguette avec des cornichons...on y parlera des zingues plus tard, apres le rouge...

That's a coincidence! Une baguette avec des cornichons is just what I'm not having for le petit dejeuner! Apres le rouge, le blanc et le bleu...cue the National Anthem of Cutawayland!

#2309 ibsenop

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Posted 29 August 2009 - 13:38

Another very good Berris cutaway to enjoy............his Lamborghini Espada
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Lamborghini Espada 1968 by Bruno Betti

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Posted 29 August 2009 - 14:26

Lamborghini Espada: did anybody notice where they put the gastanks?

#2311 Tony Matthews

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Posted 29 August 2009 - 14:34

I was just looking at that! You wouldn't want to be a rear seat passenger, in a traffic-jam, waiting for the sound of locked wheels behind you...!

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Posted 29 August 2009 - 16:21

Looking for something completely different I found this:

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No signature...any ideas?

#2313 Bonde

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Posted 29 August 2009 - 17:19

...just popping by to see how y'all were behaving, kids...

'Twas about time I threw caution to the wind, copyrightwise, and posted a scan of someone else's work: A very nice, high-quality cutaway of the Opel Ascona 400 by Technical Art, by L. Ebert (or is it Eberl?) proving that Norbert Schäfer wasn't the only artist there:

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Must admit, though, I'm not too keen on the dark, almost black background.

Edited by Bonde, 29 August 2009 - 17:26.


#2314 Bonde

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Posted 29 August 2009 - 17:24

...and now that I'm at it, another nice piece by Tony Mathieux...

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Marc, old boy, night runner or whatever in french - I hope I'll never have to regret having set this thread on its uncharted course! :)

BTW, I think that 'unidintified' 1985 McLaren is indeed the work of J.J. Francois (sorry, can't find the cedilla on my keyboard...)

Edited by Bonde, 29 August 2009 - 17:24.


#2315 Tony Matthews

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Posted 29 August 2009 - 17:33

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Hello Anders, nice to know you are still with us! I had forgotten all about that Datsun Violet, but it was that, I think, that tempted Nissan to commission the R89C and then the Sunny GTiR, for which I also designed the colour scheme. It was slightly annoying that I had to cut away so much of 'my' colour scheme to show the internals!

#2316 ibsenop

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Posted 29 August 2009 - 19:28

Lamborghini Espada: did anybody notice where they put the gastanks?


Here is the Maserati Ghibli by Bruno Betti.
The gas tanks are also on both sides at the rear.
Italian common practice at this time?

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#2317 macoran

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Posted 29 August 2009 - 23:22

Marc, old boy, night runner or whatever in french - I hope I'll never have to regret having set this thread on its uncharted course! :)

BTW, I think that 'unidintified' 1985 McLaren is indeed the work of J.J. Francois (sorry, can't find the cedilla on my keyboard...)

Don't worry Anders we won't let you regret........
A Jean Jacques François without the glazed mirror background
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alt135 will get you the ç next time you need it

#2318 Rainer Nyberg

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Posted 30 August 2009 - 14:28

Here is the Maserati Ghibli by Bruno Betti.
The gas tanks are also on both sides at the rear.
Italian common practice at this time?

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Ibsen


I think not only Italian...I used to have an Opel Kadett of the B generation, which also had the fuel tank inside the rear wing/fender.

#2319 macoran

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Posted 30 August 2009 - 15:39

Lovely little Cooper 500cc racer by Theo Page
Scan sent me by fellow TNF-er cooper 997
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#2320 Bonde

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Posted 30 August 2009 - 18:42

I believe I've seen a RALT RT3 cutaway in 1983, possibly by Technical Art, as it was in John Nielsen's Volkswagen livery. Anybody got it?

It also makes me wonder if there ever was an RT1 cutaway?





(...ooooooh - I feel a new thread is coming up - along the lines of "I wish I'd designed the...")


Marc, Alt135 gave me nothing on my keyboard - perhaps its because we Danes have got æ, ø and å as permanent keys?

#2321 Tony Matthews

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Posted 30 August 2009 - 18:49

Marc, Alt135 gave me nothing on my keyboard - perhaps its because we Danes have got æ, ø and å as permanent keys?


Doesn't give me anything either, and I haven't even got the other three! I feel deprived...

#2322 Tony Matthews

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Posted 30 August 2009 - 18:52

Lovely little Cooper 500cc racer by Theo Page
Scan sent me by fellow TNF-er cooper 997
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Yes, nice little drawing, when you see 500's now they just look tiny, like the original Mini, you forget how small cars, both racing and production, where.

#2323 Tim Murray

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Posted 30 August 2009 - 19:19

Alt135 works for me - ç - just like that, but only if I use the number pad on the right of the keyboard. Nothing happens if I use the numbers along the top.

#2324 macoran

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Posted 30 August 2009 - 19:25

Marc, Alt135 gave me nothing on my keyboard - perhaps its because we Danes have got æ, ø and å as permanent keys?


It probably depends on keyboard setup, mine is set on United States(International)

so I can get most special language glyphs æ and å
:rotfl: hahah I even have a Tony Matthews ™™

Edited by macoran, 30 August 2009 - 21:23.


#2325 Tony Matthews

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Posted 30 August 2009 - 21:21

I have been re-born. I am fresh, moist and smooth, like a çornichon in the dewy morning , waiting to be plucked and pickled - I am Toine Mathieux.


Tim, you are right! Just tried it, and it works. çor blimey!

Edited by Tony Matthews, 30 August 2009 - 21:25.


#2326 Tony Matthews

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Posted 30 August 2009 - 21:46

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Jaguar SS100. I say, Gwendolyn, fancy a spin with the top down?

Tony dear, much as I would love a drive in your lovely motorcar, I hardly think it fitting to disrobe, however balmy the evening, and with the soreness from the conflagration no longer a problem. It is a jape for the young, and whilst I may have enjoyed the occasional 'parade' sans bustier in the Hispano Suiza, the firmer springing of your Jaguar, accompanied by the less-firm condition of my embonpoint means I must reluctantly decline.

No, Gwendolyn, I meant the hood.

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Posted 31 August 2009 - 10:07

Alt135 works for me - ç - just like that, but only if I use the number pad on the right of the keyboard. Nothing happens if I use the numbers along the top.


if these things don't work or you are stuck with a strange keyboard layout for some reason, you may use this site: http://www.copypastecharacter.com/ It is simply a page with a lot of characters you can copy and paste into your post.

Edited by NPP, 31 August 2009 - 10:08.


#2328 Rainer Nyberg

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Posted 31 August 2009 - 12:06

I believe I've seen a RALT RT3 cutaway in 1983, possibly by Technical Art, as it was in John Nielsen's Volkswagen livery. Anybody got it?


I also remember this, I am pretty sure I have it (somewhere!) in a period VW magazine.
I can look it up, if somebody does not beat me to it...

#2329 Robin Fairservice

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Posted 01 September 2009 - 17:36

Here are two photographed from Road & Track:

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#2330 Tony Matthews

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Posted 01 September 2009 - 17:45

Thanks Robin nice to see the P4 as it was printed - I imagine Jim Allington was sent a copy of the magazine each time they used a cutaway, but I can't remember seeing any. The Theo Page must have had the body tint added by the magazine, I don't think I've seen any other cutaway of his treated like that. It is effective, but why blue? I've only ever seen red ones...

#2331 macoran

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Posted 01 September 2009 - 18:48

Good camera work Robin, must be a 10Mp job.

Yes Tony R&T did colour film a lot of cutaways, I'm working on Theo's Lotus 64 Indy turbine wedge right now.....and it is RED !

#2332 Tony Matthews

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Posted 01 September 2009 - 19:18

Good camera work Robin, must be a 10Mp job.

Yes Tony R&T did colour film a lot of cutaways, I'm working on Theo's Lotus 64 Indy turbine wedge right now.....and it is RED !

I thought that about the quality of the pics, but didn't think to say! Sorry Robin.

Come on Marc, put that beer down and scan...

#2333 macoran

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Posted 01 September 2009 - 20:00

Donkeys posts ago I told a poster that I had a cutaway of the Paxton STP Indy turbine driven by Parnelli Jones to a near win
but for a gearbox bearing costing a couple of quid to fail a few laps be4 the finish in 1967.
I was wrong it wasn't the STP Paxton, but the Theo Page Lotus 64 Indy turbine wedge.
Scanned, spliced and colour filled here and there. it is a red one !!! Colouring courtesy of Road&Track
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pfsst says my new beer, cheers Tony !

Edited by macoran, 01 September 2009 - 20:02.


#2334 macoran

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Posted 01 September 2009 - 20:05

cutaway of .........................."the Paxton STP Indy turbine driven by Parnelli Jones to a near win
but for a gearbox bearing costing a couple of quid to fail a few laps be4 the finish in 1967"


Is this the longest name for a single cutaway drawing ?


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Posted 01 September 2009 - 20:13

Donkeys posts ago I told a poster that I had a cutaway of the Paxton STP Indy turbine driven by Parnelli Jones to a near win
but for a gearbox bearing costing a couple of quid to fail a few laps be4 the finish in 1967.
I was wrong it wasn't the STP Paxton, but the Theo Page Lotus 64 Indy turbine wedge.
Scanned, spliced and colour filled here and there. it is a red one !!! Colouring courtesy of Road&Track
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pfsst says my new beer, cheers Tony !


In fact is it Lotus 56. Lotus 64 raced in 1968 year and was fitted with Ford V8 engine.

But cutaway is really nice, thanks macoran. :up:




#2336 macoran

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Posted 01 September 2009 - 20:24

In fact is it Lotus 56.

Of course it is, and the F1 job was the 56B

note to myself.check, double check, then put your foot in it !


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Posted 01 September 2009 - 21:48

Good camera work Robin, must be a 10Mp job.

Yes Tony R&T did colour film a lot of cutaways, I'm working on Theo's Lotus 64 Indy turbine wedge right now.....and it is RED !



Thanks for the compliments. The camera was a Canon A540, 6 Mp using the Macro setting. I took them outdoors with a little sunlight.

I have been given a set of R & T's from 1957 to 1978, and evry now and then there are cutaways. There are several that Shell has used in their advertising.

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Posted 01 September 2009 - 22:06

Thanks for the compliments. The camera was a Canon A540, 6 Mp using the Macro setting. I took them outdoors with a little sunlight.

I have been given a set of R & T's from 1957 to 1978, and evry now and then there are cutaways. There are several that Shell has used in their advertising.


little sunlight. yes ...and don't lean over too far to project your own shadow on the subject
note for next pics Robin.....flatten magazine as much as possible, and take piccie with centre divide as vertical as possible ! :p
have been given :eek: ....ooooooooooooooooooohhhh !!!!!!
there are cutaways........yes yes yes goodie goodie
Shell used James Allington's Ferrari P4, Chapparal 2F and Ford MkIV in the Road&Tracks ads
can you imagine the set of 3 was available from Shell USA for $ 1.00 in 1968 ???

edit to tell you I am already trying to muck up Theo Page's Ford 3L into a full cutaway

Edited by macoran, 01 September 2009 - 22:14.


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Posted 01 September 2009 - 23:21

Here is the Theo Page Ford P68 cutaway (not so good copy).

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and here another Ford P68 cutaway.

Who is the artist?

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#2340 Tony Matthews

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Posted 02 September 2009 - 12:11

Who is the artist?

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That's odd - it definitely looks unfinished, did the Mystery Illustrator give up? Was he beaten by a deadline? You can see blank areas that were destined for more detail... Odd. The line-work reminds me of another cutaway, posted on this thread, but I haven't time at the moment to go through earlier pages. Who did the McLaren M6 Indycar?

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Posted 02 September 2009 - 12:37

That's odd - it definitely looks unfinished, did the Mystery Illustrator give up? Was he beaten by a deadline? You can see blank areas that were destined for more detail... Odd. The line-work reminds me of another cutaway, posted on this thread, but I haven't time at the moment to go through earlier pages. Who did the McLaren M6 Indycar?



Nobody.
There never was a McLaren M6 Indycar.....

Did you by chance mean the M16?


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Posted 02 September 2009 - 15:32

little sunlight. yes ...and don't lean over too far to project your own shadow on the subject
note for next pics Robin.....flatten magazine as much as possible, and take piccie with centre divide as vertical as possible ! :p
have been given :eek: ....ooooooooooooooooooohhhh !!!!!!
there are cutaways........yes yes yes goodie goodie
Shell used James Allington's Ferrari P4, Chapparal 2F and Ford MkIV in the Road&Tracks ads
can you imagine the set of 3 was available from Shell USA for $ 1.00 in 1968 ???

edit to tell you I am already trying to muck up Theo Page's Ford 3L into a full cutaway

I wondered if you might try to play with it.

I had the magazine under a weight all night trying to flatten it, but not very successfully. I wish that I had an 11" x 17" scanner, but I think that I know of a photo copier that can send copies by E mail.

Here are scans of two smaller drawings:

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#2343 Tony Matthews

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Posted 02 September 2009 - 17:03

Nobody.
There never was a McLaren M6 Indycar.....

Did you by chance mean the M16?


henri

Of course, I obviously didn't hit the '1' key hard enough, I must have been in foreplay mode...

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Posted 02 September 2009 - 17:50

[quote name='Bonde' date='Aug 30 2009, 19:42' post='3827619']
I believe I've seen a RALT RT3 cutaway in 1983, possibly by Technical Art, as it was in John Nielsen's Volkswagen livery. Anybody got it?

I have the poster of the RT3 but don't know now I can reduce it to post

#2345 macoran

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Posted 02 September 2009 - 20:37

I obviously didn't hit the '1' key hard enough, I must have been in foreplay mode...


Oops, this is getting saucy

#2346 macoran

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Posted 02 September 2009 - 21:06

I have the poster of the RT3 but don't know now I can reduce it to post


I don't believe this!!!

you tell us you have what we want to see.............
and then you tell us you don't know how to.......

I......am numbed............

#2347 Robin Fairservice

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Posted 03 September 2009 - 00:05

I tried the photo copier E mail thing, but finished up witha TIFF file, which Image Shack treated mysteriously, so I photographed a photo copy on 11"x17''paper of the Chapparal 2F.

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#2348 macoran

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Posted 03 September 2009 - 16:53

I don't believe this!!!

you tell us you have what we want to see.............
and then you tell us you don't know how to.......

I......am numbed............


I see I forgot a couple of :drunk: :p :yawnface: :stoned: here

#2349 Tony Matthews

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Posted 03 September 2009 - 16:55

I see I forgot a couple of :drunk: :p :yawnface: :stoned: here

Must have been the beer...

#2350 macoran

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Posted 03 September 2009 - 16:56

I tried the photo copier E mail thing, but finished up witha TIFF file, which Image Shack treated mysteriously, so I photographed a photo copy on 11"x17''paper of the Chapparal 2F.

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Robin you can save the photo to a file, then go into the name and change the .TIFF to .jpg
Else open the scan in paint, and then click save as, then click the jpeg;jpg in the drop down menu.

Good piccie !

Edited by macoran, 03 September 2009 - 16:57.