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#3851 ibsenop

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Posted 23 February 2010 - 00:54

Ferrari 330 P4 by Antonio Eiras. Motor Klassik Poster.

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#3852 werks prototype

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Posted 23 February 2010 - 00:59

Ferrari 330 P4 by Antonio Eiras. Motor Klassik Poster.

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Ibsen


Stunning :up: Shiny, but stunning!

#3853 macoran

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Posted 23 February 2010 - 01:10

Ferrari 330 P4 by Antonio Eiras. Motor Klassik Poster.

Scanned by Duc-Man. Thank you.

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Ibsen

Very Good Ibsen!!!!!, I really have to start getting a hang on Photoshop or whotever its called.
Got a couple of hundred scans coming up and I am starting to feel run down.
Feel like I won't reach 4000

#3854 eldougo

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Posted 23 February 2010 - 04:59

And now for some real Italian CLASS..Posted Image Enjoy. :up:

#3855 werks prototype

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Posted 23 February 2010 - 13:25

And now for some real Italian CLASS..Posted Image Enjoy. :up:


:up: Now that's what I'm talking about! Never seen a 'Mickey Mouse' before though.


#3856 werks prototype

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Posted 23 February 2010 - 13:42

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Borgward P100 'Artist unknown'

#3857 werks prototype

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Posted 23 February 2010 - 13:56


Mercedes-Benz CW311 Design study 'Artist unknown'



Mercedes-Benz CW311 Design study 'Artist unknown'

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#3858 B Squared

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Posted 23 February 2010 - 16:29

Shelby Cobra GT500 cutaway circa March, 1968

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#3859 macoran

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Posted 23 February 2010 - 19:36

And now for some real Italian CLASS..Posted Image Enjoy. :up:

I've seen this type of "framing" surrounding cutaways a few times now. What magazine or book are they from ?

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Posted 23 February 2010 - 21:10

I have 3 scans from Gente Motori, Italian magazin. Artist: Sergio Barato 1990
Marc sketch in the missing points. Fantastic artwork!
Have fun

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#3861 macoran

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Posted 23 February 2010 - 22:04

I have 3 scans from Gente Motori, Italian magazin. Artist: Sergio Barato 1990
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Best regards GORO

Moderator, please, move to " The cutaway drawing and its artists"

Two of the pages have a header saying Quattro Superbolidi, meaning Four Superracers, so there should be a 4th ?
Also at the lower right of the 2nd Williams page it says continued on page 219
There is also quite some material missing, is that because of the scan ?

Edited by macoran, 23 February 2010 - 22:21.


#3862 ibsenop

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Posted 24 February 2010 - 01:00

Maserati Tipo 61 Birdcage by Antonio Eiras - Motor Klassik Poster

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Posted 24 February 2010 - 02:52

working out how to use a Canon 8400F and Arcsoft Photostudio if not iPhoto;
this generic looks to have been done for inclusion in a book - sheet size 440x190mm several folds.
I'll have a go at stitching later, but thought it might be welcome here...
steven
thanks - stitching by werks below at 3874

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#3864 goro

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Posted 24 February 2010 - 04:54

Two of the pages have a header saying Quattro Superbolidi, meaning Four Superracers, so there should be a 4th ?
Also at the lower right of the 2nd Williams page it says continued on page 219
There is also quite some material missing, is that because of the scan ?

4 = Tyrrell - go page 87 or 85

Edited by goro, 24 February 2010 - 08:27.


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Posted 24 February 2010 - 08:27

I've seen this type of "framing" surrounding cutaways a few times now. What magazine or book are they from ?

It from a very old Motoring Encyclopedia called" On Four Wheels" it started in the late 60,s came out of
UK

#3866 werks prototype

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Posted 24 February 2010 - 13:39

Is this the Fiat page?  ;)

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1957 Fiat 1100 Factory Illustration

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Fiat 500 C Factory Illustration

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Fiat 500 Saloon Factory Illustration

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Posted 24 February 2010 - 15:52

I just got my copy of 'The Classic Cutaways' from Haynes today.
It shows 100 cutaways done by Terry Davey. To each car it has some basic technical information and a short write-up about it.
The cars portrait are mostly from british production. Lots of Austins, Fords, Triumphs and Vauxhalls.

Who ever brought it up here...thanks. This is a good one. :up: :up:

I wish Tony would make something like this.

#3868 macoran

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Posted 24 February 2010 - 17:24

I just got my copy of 'The Classic Cutaways' from Haynes today.

Got one from e-bay coming my way

#3869 macoran

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Posted 24 February 2010 - 17:25

Is this the Fiat page? ;)

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1957 Fiat 1100 Factory Illustration

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Fiat 500 C Factory Illustration

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Fiat 500 Saloon Factory Illustration

None of these pics can be saved to HD for further study ?


#3870 werks prototype

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Posted 24 February 2010 - 17:36

None of these pics can be saved to HD for further study ?


Oops sorry I'll fix that. My image hoster has annoying adverts to print out images on mugs and T-shirts etc, now although I only upload low-res images anyway, I just wanted to prevent the obvious, I can easily modify that :) I will get right on it. If you zoom in on the detail on the Fiat 1100 it really is quite a beauty.


Here's a stitched version of Stevens image. I pm'ed you earlier Steven, if you stitch a higher res version I will delete this, or you can move it to your original post :up:


Edited by werks prototype, 28 April 2010 - 17:52.


#3871 Tony Matthews

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Posted 24 February 2010 - 18:33

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Acknowledgments to Honeysett and 'Motor' magazine, Feb 1 1986.

Just found this during yet another clear-up/sort-out - will it ever end? It was published after the KK Jisaw series was produced. I may be wrong, but I always assumed that Honeysett's cartoon was aimed at me and the jigsaws but I could be wrong. I tried to buy the original, but for some reason it was unavailable. Nice.

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#3872 macoran

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Posted 24 February 2010 - 18:38

None of these pics can be saved to HD for further study ?

Thanks WP, they work great now

#3873 werks prototype

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Posted 24 February 2010 - 19:07

Just found this during yet another clear-up/sort-out - will it ever end? It was published after the KK Jisaw series was produced. I may be wrong, but I always assumed that Honeysett's cartoon was aimed at me and the jigsaws but I could be wrong. I tried to buy the original, but for some reason it was unavailable. Nice.


How many based on your work did they end up producing Tony? Have you had the pleasure of re-constructing/de-constructing your own work? Over one very long sitting.

Edited by werks prototype, 24 February 2010 - 19:08.


#3874 macoran

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Posted 24 February 2010 - 19:12

It from a very old Motoring Encyclopedia called" On Four Wheels" it started in the late 60,s came out of
UK

I thought they came from "On Four Wheels", but I have laid my hands on a set and can't find any framed cutaways in there.
I can't even find the Fiats, and there don't seem to be any pages missing unless there were un-numbered centre spreads.

#3875 macoran

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Posted 24 February 2010 - 19:14

Two of the pages have a header saying Quattro Superbolidi, meaning Four Superracers, so there should be a 4th ?
Also at the lower right of the 2nd Williams page it says continued on page 219
There is also quite some material missing, is that because of the scan ?

4 = Tyrrell - go page 87 or 85

Oh yes ! that one ....Tyrrell 019

#3876 macoran

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Posted 24 February 2010 - 21:39

I have 3 scans from Gente Motori, Italian magazin. Artist: Sergio Barato 1990
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Best regards GORO

Moderator, please, move to " The cutaway drawing and its artists"

I'll be doing some painting to fill in the missing bits

#3877 SWB

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Posted 24 February 2010 - 21:40

I thought they came from "On Four Wheels", but I have laid my hands on a set and can't find any framed cutaways in there.
I can't even find the Fiats, and there don't seem to be any pages missing unless there were un-numbered centre spreads.


I think I have a full set of 'On Four Wheels' that I picked up from a junk shop, and there are framed cutaways, like the Fiats, on the back page after the first two volumes, so the style must have changed slightly. Even so the earlier issues also have cutaways every now and again. Throughout all the issues they seem to be mainly done by Bruno Betti or are copyright 'Quattroroute' and of a very high quality. Having just had a flick through I don't think any except the Fiats have been reproduced here yet.

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Posted 24 February 2010 - 22:10

I think I have a full set of 'On Four Wheels' that I picked up from a junk shop, and there are framed cutaways, like the Fiats, on the back page

Steve

Ah, that probably is it ! , my set has all the covers missing !

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Posted 24 February 2010 - 23:40

I'll be doing some painting to fill in the missing bits


The McLaren looks relatively simple. The Williams looks a nightmare with the ICI logo, unless you clone it from the nose piece and distort it?

Great pop-ups associated with those images though, I don't know if anyone else is getting them. Amazing the type of people that apparently live just around the corner from me. I never would have guessed.

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#3880 macoran

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Posted 24 February 2010 - 23:51

The Williams looks a nightmare with the ICI logo, unless you clone it from the nose piece and distort it?

The IC logo isn't turning out bad if I say so meself....and didn't clone it...wouldn't have a clue how to
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#3881 werks prototype

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Posted 24 February 2010 - 23:58

The IC logo isn't turning out bad if I say so meself....and didn't clone it...wouldn't have a clue how to
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:up: Bloody good. You did literally paint it.

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Posted 25 February 2010 - 00:01

For me nothing is ever going to come close to Mr Matthews 'cathedral' like working drawing of the Ferrari 049 engine on page 6 of this thread. However, here is something quite nice. An IRL Aurora V8.


IRL Aurora V8. Artist 'Tom Quinlan'

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#3883 ibsenop

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Posted 25 February 2010 - 02:06

Bugatti Type 35 by Antonio Eiras. Motor Klassik Poster

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Posted 25 February 2010 - 02:10

I have no real direct knowledge of it, but it appears to me that Tom Quinlan was part of General Motors, or their ad agency. Most of his previous work that I have has been Pontiac Promo catalogs with drawings of Firebirds or Sunbirds, and now this Olds IRL engine. The subject matter tends to fit that kind of job description.
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#3885 Tony Matthews

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Posted 25 February 2010 - 10:31

Bugatti Type 35 by Antonio Eiras. Motor Klassik Poster

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It puzzles me slightly that the Bugatti Type 35 has been illustrated three times from exactly the same viewpoint - right front three-quarter with exagerated perspective. The similarities between Jim Allington and Mr Inomoto's work has been mentioned before - I still don't know which drawing was done first, but I know Jim did his from his own car, and told me that the perspective was due to sitting too near to the car!

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Posted 25 February 2010 - 12:17

Jim's is not done from exactly the same angle, is it Tony? And have I got it right that this was Jim's own T35? Was it a case of illustrators being better paid, back then – or was it that Bugattis were cheaper? Certainly, my late father recalled a neighbor in Wraysbury putting his T35, in road trim, up for sale for £600 or so. Dad and his father looked the thing over, but were unimpressed by the state of the rear hubs, which had been drilled through and split-pinned to stop them jumping on very worn splines.

One interesting thing about Jim's cutaways is the size of the tyres. The T35 appears to have balloon tyres and his '65 F1 Honda looks like it is wearing circa 1968 'boots'. Was this a stylistic thing, I wonder, or did the ellipses just grow as Jim worked to get them right?

#3887 Tony Matthews

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Posted 25 February 2010 - 12:58

Well, I shouldn't have used the word 'exactly', or perhaps I should have added the word 'almost'! If you traced one and laid it over the other two no doubt there would be discrepancies, but my point still stands. The extreme perspective is the main similarity. This can obviously happen through coincidence - my cutaway of the Aston Martin DB3S is from almost the same viewpoint as Bruno Betti's, although I had not seen his, and he may have done his version after I did mine, although I doubt it.

Illustrating didn't pay much in those days, although I imagine Jim was making more money than if he had stayed at Geo. W. King in Stevenage - perhaps not, I don't know. It's not the sort of question you ask! I know that my income trippled in my first year after leaving Motoring News, but that was starting from a very low base! I imagine that the T35 was bought cheap, and probably needing a lot of attention. It had gone before I met Jim. He re-built several cars, some before I met him, several others after, to a greater or lesser extent.

I imagine the Bugatti was drawn with the tyres that were fitted at the time. I can't visualise the '65 Honda, but wheel and tyre sizes relative to chassis/body sizes were a matter of constant discussion - they were changing all the time, and are visually vital. Maybe Jim just got it wrong that time!

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Posted 26 February 2010 - 09:19

Now gents, does anybody know anything about Antonio Eiras?
I never seen anything else than this series of drawings he did for Motor Klassik.


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Posted 26 February 2010 - 21:44

Lots of Brian Hatton already but I don't believe the T90 has yet shown its face.

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Lola T90 'Brian Hatton'

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Lola T90 'Brian Hatton'

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Posted 26 February 2010 - 21:48

Well, I now have that Haynes Classic Cutaways book. I think the only thing I wish was that they had not split every drawing across the gutter of the binding. One of my pet peeves against hardcover binding. It does give a good spread of illustrations across the years, representing under 25% of the Haynes Terry Davey illustrations. I know that I have a representation of something like 450 or so of his covers in my collection, even if they were done from a standard copier. This is definitely better, and maybe they will consider going for another 25% of the set some day.
I would think it is worth the price, especially as discounted through Amazon ...
By way of review, each drawing gets a double-page spread, with a copy of the Manual Cover, and a bit of a fact sheet on the car included. There is also a narrative couple of paragraphs on each car. The book starts with an introduction by John Haynes, and a bio on Terry Davey. Amazing to think that he did those 400+ illustrations between 1972 and 1991. I do wish that they had made some comment about when the illustration was done, just to be able to watch the evolution of the style over the 19 years.
I am certainly glad that there is a new book of Cutaways out there, as there certainly aren't very many coming out recently .. unless I am missing something.
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#3891 Tony Matthews

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Posted 26 February 2010 - 22:57

Well, I now have that Haynes Classic Cutaways book. I think the only thing I wish was that they had not split every drawing across the gutter of the binding. One of my pet peeves against hardcover binding.
Tom West

I agree, that is so annoying! I would rather see a gate-fold, at least when you open them there is a complete illustration, just a crease - still not the best way though. I'm afraid the only answer is Big Books!

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Posted 26 February 2010 - 23:12

I agree, that is so annoying! I would rather see a gate-fold, at least when you open them there is a complete illustration, just a crease - still not the best way though. I'm afraid the only answer is Big Books!

Yep !!
Just got my Haynes copy in
Cheesy buy on E-Bay, it said it was a well thumbed book, so I'll get my magnifying glass out and look for fingerprints,.....to me it looks brand spanking new,
And yes.........................SUCH BOOKS SHOULD ONLY BE PRINTED IN A3 LANDSCAPE FORMAT !!!!!!! I don't want to spend life splicing !

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Posted 26 February 2010 - 23:15

Now gents, does anybody know anything about Antonio Eiras?
I never seen anything else than this series of drawings he did for Motor Klassik.

Absolutely nothing from my side Duc Man, I haven't found anything yet

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Posted 26 February 2010 - 23:27



1989 Ford RS200 Artist 'Terry Lawless' case in point regarding the binding

Ford RS200 Artist 'Allerston'



Ford RS200 Collaboration between artists 'Harmer and Allerston'



Ford RS200 Collaboration between artists 'Harmer and Allerston' Ford Magazine context

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Posted 26 February 2010 - 23:35

I think the only thing I wish was that they had not split every drawing across the gutter of the binding. One of my pet peeves against hardcover binding.
Tom West

My problem !!!!! Cost me a Fortune over the years buying a second copy to unstitch and cut up for joining up my cutaway collection.
Publishers just don't have a clue there are nut cases around like me.

So.. I'll need a second copy of Haynes' as well now

Edit OOOOOhhhh 100 to go !

Edited by macoran, 26 February 2010 - 23:37.


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Posted 26 February 2010 - 23:54

Now gents, does anybody know anything about Antonio Eiras?
I never seen anything else than this series of drawings he did for Motor Klassik.



I can tell you this much. He is a Portuguese artist and Contemporary Spanish Mag 'Coche Actual' still run small features on his work.

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Posted 27 February 2010 - 00:27

I show five illustrations in my files for Antonio Eiras. They include the 1987-8-9 McLarens, and two Toyota Rally cars that appeared in Race Car Engineering. Does that ring any bells for anyone?
Tom West

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Posted 27 February 2010 - 00:41

Now gents, does anybody know anything about Antonio Eiras?
I never seen anything else than this series of drawings he did for Motor Klassik.


A little research at the web. => http://www.sobrearte...IMC=1004&O=1149

Antonio Eiras
Local Nascimento - Lisboa - Portugal
1960
Licenciou-se em Medicina em 1984. Nesse ano, frequentou o curso de Experiências Plásticas da Sociedade Nacional de Belas Artes.
Em 1981 iniciou actividade como ilustrador, no jornal "Motor".
Colaborou com várias publicações nacionais: "Turbo", "Automagazine", "Automotor", "Autohoje".Também tem colaborado com publicações estrangeiras: "Motor 16" e "Autopista" em Espanha; "SportAuto", "AutoHebdo" e "Automobiles Classiques" em França; "Rallye Racing" e "Motor Klassik" no Alemanha; "Grid" no Brasil e "Racing On" no Japão.
Também tem desenhos publicados em livros: no Anuário de Formula Um do Francisco Santos, no livro "Tecnologia Siglo XXI", no "Catalogue Raisonné Mercedes-Benz" publicado pela Automobilia.
A sua primeira exposição colectiva foi em 1983.
Desde 1988 tem vindo a expôr de forma regular o seu trabalho.

Born at Lisboa - Portugal
1960
He graduated in Medicine in 1984. This year, attended the course of experiments Arts National Society of Fine Arts.
In 1981 began work as an illustrator in the magazine "Motor".
Collaborated with several national publications: "Turbo", "Automagazine", "Automotive", "Autohoje". It has also collaborated with foreign publications:"Motor 16" and "Autopista" in Spain, "SportAuto", "AutoHebdo" and "Automobiles Classiques" in France, "Rallye Racing" and "Motor Klassik" in Germany, "Grid" in Brazil and "Racing On" in Japan
It also has drawings published in books: the Yearbook of the Formula One Francisco Santos, in the book "Technology Siglo XXI", in the "Catalog Raisonné Mercedes-Benz" published by Automobilia.
His first group exhibition was in 1983.
Since 1988 has been regularly exhibit their work.

Ibsen

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Posted 27 February 2010 - 00:57

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M.G. TD Midget Artist 'Max Millar' The Autocar 20th January 1950

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Posted 27 February 2010 - 01:34

and two Toyota Rally cars that appeared in Race Car Engineering. Does that ring any bells for anyone?
Tom West

Drinnnnngggg Driiiiiiinnnnng Yes I have the Toyota 4WD Celiica Turbo
I'll scan it ASAP