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#4201 ibsenop

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Posted 21 March 2010 - 00:42

Brazilian Ford Maverick Super 1974 cutaway by Walter Brito.
B&W version of the cutaway posted at page 85.

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and brazilian Ford Corcel Coupe 1975 by Walter Brito.

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Posted 21 March 2010 - 01:45

Volkswagen Beetle cutaway/cross-section history 1950-1973. Some extremely subtle development differences.

In most cases year on year the differences are quite subtle, but they are present nonetheless, be it a variation in the shape/size of the fuel tank or a development of the air cleaner/engine on the very early models. However I think it gets to the point where eventually it is just the luggage that varies.

These are all factory/works illustrations. Definitely something intriguing about the notion of a house style and/or anonymous artist/artists at work on these, deep within the bowels of a manufacturer.

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Posted 21 March 2010 - 01:57

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Posted 21 March 2010 - 02:31

1970 Porsche 911-S By 'Jiro Yamada'

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Posted 21 March 2010 - 10:52

Seeing as there are some aircraft and plenty of road cars on this amazing thread, I thought I'd add this picture I found in an old Truck magazine. I recently sold a load of old Autosport's to one of the forum members and a pile of Truck mags were unearthed too.

My uncle used to operate heavy wreckers and had a Scania 141 which I remember going for a ride in when he'd just bought it. It would have been in about 1976-77 when I was 4-5. We went around Warrington with me perched on the bunk. (pre H&S paranoia)

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It looks like it's by Vic Bennet(t)

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Posted 21 March 2010 - 12:13

It is a Vic Berris and it's marvelous. There is more Scania material on page 95.

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Posted 21 March 2010 - 12:43

It is a Vic Berris and it's marvelous. There is more Scania material on page 95.


Thanks for clarifying. Glad you approve! I'll have a look back for his other Scania stuff - cheers.
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Posted 21 March 2010 - 12:52

Brazilian Ford Maverick Super 1974 cutaway by Walter Brito.
B&W version of the cutaway posted at page 85.

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and brazilian Ford Corcel Coupe 1975 by Walter Brito.

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TNF Cutaway Index updated at page 100.


These are great. I have tried to research a few, especially the Corcel and it seems mostly they were unique to the South American market, with a few variations produced for North America, but certainly nothing really equivalent in Europe.


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Posted 21 March 2010 - 13:35

Ford Corcel (based on Wikipedia)

When Ford acquired Willys, the latter was developing a project in partnership with Renault, the project "M". This project gave rise to the Renault 12 in France, and with a different body, the Corcel in Brazil.
Launched initially as a 4-door sedan in 1968 and then as a coupe in 1969.
The factory made some changes in the overall look of the car in 1973, leaving him a bit like the Ford Maverick. The engines have become the 1.4 used in the GT line, known as XP motor. In 1975 the design was again reworked, increasing the resemblance to the Maverick, especially in the rear.
Until 1977, this model was getting the finishing touches, though retaining the same look, until the launch of the 1978 line - was the Corcel II, with basically the same mechanical elements but with a completely redesigned body, which in no way resembled the previous model. In 1985, he received the front of the Del Rey and some stylistic touches, besides losing the term "II" of the name. This model existed until the year 1986, when was closed its production.

Brazilian Ford Del Rey 1983 cutaway by Unknown artist (Walter Brito?).

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Posted 21 March 2010 - 13:39

For our Volkswagen Beetle files
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by Sigfried Werner

#4211 ibsenop

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Posted 21 March 2010 - 13:50

And another one

Volkswagen Beetle 1954 by Reuters - from Volkswagen 1954 brochure

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#4212 werks prototype

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Posted 21 March 2010 - 14:02

Ford Corcel (based on Wikipedia)

When Ford acquired Willys, the latter was developing a project in partnership with Renault, the project "M". This project gave rise to the Renault 12 in France, and with a different body, the Corcel in Brazil.
Launched initially as a 4-door sedan in 1968 and then as a coupe in 1969.
The factory made some changes in the overall look of the car in 1973, leaving him a bit like the Ford Maverick. The engines have become the 1.4 used in the GT line, known as XP motor. In 1975 the design was again reworked, increasing the resemblance to the Maverick, especially in the rear.
Until 1977, this model was getting the finishing touches, though retaining the same look, until the launch of the 1978 line - was the Corcel II, with basically the same mechanical elements but with a completely redesigned body, which in no way resembled the previous model. In 1985, he received the front of the Del Rey and some stylistic touches, besides losing the term "II" of the name. This model existed until the year 1986, when was closed its production.

Brazilian Ford Del Rey 1983 cutaway by Unknown artist (Walter Brito?).

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Fascinating. It is like finding out about an entirely different race of cars. :up: :)


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Posted 21 March 2010 - 14:04

Beetle Mania!

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Posted 21 March 2010 - 14:26

Beetle Mania!

This one shows the basic floorpan chassis as well
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Posted 21 March 2010 - 16:07

Brazilian Volkswagen Brasilia 1600 1974 by Walter Brito.

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Posted 21 March 2010 - 16:40

Brazilian Volkswagen Brasilia 1600 1974 by Walter Brito.

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He is great isn't he Brito. Such a richness to his work. Plus, I am now convinced that Brazil has had a car industry that is completely distinct from the rest of the World.


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Posted 21 March 2010 - 16:43

This one shows the basic floorpan chassis as well
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That chassis looks a little like the publicity shots of the new McLaren MP4-12C tub. :eek: Someone, somewhere is doing something right!


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Posted 21 March 2010 - 19:36



1957 Jordan 'Special' Artist Unknown (Page, Hatton, Millar, Bruce, LaTourette?) I would guess 'Theo Page'.

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Posted 21 March 2010 - 19:40



Another Dolphin By 'Gordon Bruce'

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Posted 21 March 2010 - 22:35

Trucks an Lorries ?
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FIAT 693NI 6x4
Giulio Betti ?

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Posted 21 March 2010 - 22:54

Trucks an Lorries ?
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FIAT 693NI 6x4
Giulio Betti ?


For a split second there I thought you had just posted a Cutaway Race Transporter! Surely a Cutaway Holy Grail. What a beast though.

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Posted 22 March 2010 - 00:52


Cooper 1962 Mk3 T59 By 'Willin'


1960 Cooper FJ Mk1 T52 By 'Brian Hatton'


1963 Mk3A Cooper FJT67 By 'Theo Page'

(Very low quality)

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Posted 22 March 2010 - 16:11

2 rally cars for the beguining of the week:
lancia delta hf integral 1988-1989 by b betti
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and toyota corola by unknown artist
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Posted 22 March 2010 - 16:41

I just found this website while I was looking for some information about the BMW 02 series.
Lots of cutaway. Some have been posted here before but most of them are new to me.
I love that Citroen 2CV cutaway towards the bottom of the page.

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Posted 22 March 2010 - 18:31

I just found this website while I was looking for some information about the BMW 02 series.
Lots of cutaway. Some have been posted here before but most of them are new to me.
I love that Citroen 2CV cutaway towards the bottom of the page.


Very nice. Lots of cutaways with passengers! :up: + that Yoshikawa 3.5 CSL gets better everytime I see it. I shall have to purchase a print of that monster.

Just as a random side issue, here is an image of a 1/18 scale model I own of a 3.0 CSL from the BMW Museum. It is vaguely related to technical drawing.  ;)

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Posted 22 March 2010 - 19:50

Just as a random side issue, here is an image of a 1/18 scale model I own of a 3.0 CSL from the BMW Museum. It is vaguely related to technical drawing. ;)

Hairy !, years ago I saw a more civilized version of that beast lay a brodie on the parking lot at Zandvoort.
It gave another meaning to the term "striping"!

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Posted 22 March 2010 - 20:33

Hairy !, years ago I saw a more civilized version of that beast lay a brodie on the parking lot at Zandvoort.
It gave another meaning to the term "striping"!


Wow, that must have been amazing! And that was a tame version you say. :)

I just can't imagine a civilised version or variation of that car existing. I feel the same about the 935 and the K3. Beautiful cars.

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Posted 22 March 2010 - 20:42


Lotus Turbo Esprit, By Andrew Dibben (Artist identification courtesy of Macoran)

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Posted 22 March 2010 - 21:16


Cooper MK5 By 'Vic Berris'
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1957 Norton Manx 'Double Knocker' race car engine. By 'J.Bennett' FJ '500' Race car engine as well as a Bike engine.

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Cooper Mk9 By 'Max Millar' with the 'double knocker' fitted.

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Cooper Mk8 By Theo Page

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Cooper MK2 (Artist unknown, probably one of Page, Millar, Berris etc)

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Posted 22 March 2010 - 21:17

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Lotus Turbo Esprit (Artist unknown, I'm hoping someone can shed a little light on it)

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I'm not sure but your guess is as good as mine
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Posted 22 March 2010 - 21:34

I'm not sure but your guess is as good as mine
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Andrew Dibben it is then :up: :)

The best thing about this Esprit for me is that offset battery by the exhaust, especially with the colour version.


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Posted 23 March 2010 - 20:11

Porsche 962 cutaway by R. Von Sauers

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Posted 23 March 2010 - 20:31

Porsche 962 cutaway by R. Von Sauers

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TNF cutaways Index updated at page 100.


Ibsen, Thanks for posting this line drawing of Von Sauers. I have copies of some color pieces that he did for Valvoline of a Dragster, a NASCAR, an off-road Supertruck and a coupe of others, but never saw a line drawing by him. Good addition.
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Posted 23 March 2010 - 20:32

Ibsen, Thanks for posting this line drawing of Von Sauers. I have copies of some color pieces that he did for Valvoline of a Dragster, a NASCAR, an off-road Supertruck and a coupe of others, but never saw a line drawing by him. Good addition.
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By the way, the first name is Russell, just for reference.
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Posted 23 March 2010 - 22:45

Microcars

Goggomobil T300 cutaway by Unknown artist

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Goggomobil engine cutaway by ??? Defhsmoan??? - Can anyone read this signature? Debusmann

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and the Zundapp Janus 1956 cutaway by Thusius

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Posted 24 March 2010 - 02:06

Porsche 962 cutaway by R. Von Sauers

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That 962 is truly great Ibsen. :up: Looking forward to seeing some of his colour work as mentioned by Tom.

Thanks again for your diligence with the 'master list'.




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Posted 24 March 2010 - 03:55

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Posted 24 March 2010 - 06:23

:up: Not forgetting of course that Lt Columbo also favours this type of ride. (albeit a 59 403 cabriolet + dog)

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Posted 24 March 2010 - 06:26

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Goggomobil engine cutaway by ??? Defhsmoan??? - Can anyone read this signature?

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It might not be a signature. Possibly it could be:

DerGlasmotor = Der Glas motor = The Glas Engine

DieGlasmotor = Die Glas motor = The Glas Engine

Or something similar. The dawing Looks a bit like a Schlenzig or Siegfried Werner.

I hope I'm wrong though, because that would be a great signature to be floating around.

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Posted 24 March 2010 - 14:38

It might not be a signature. Possibly it could be:

DerGlasmotor = Der Glas motor = The Glas Engine

DieGlasmotor = Die Glas motor = The Glas Engine

Or something similar. The dawing Looks a bit like a Schlenzig or Siegfried Werner.

I hope I'm wrong though, because that would be a great signature to be floating around.


I read it as "Debusmann 58". Debusmann is a German name, uncommon but not entirely unknown. Germans of an older generation sometimes place a horizontal line above a "u" in order to distinguish it from an "n".

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Posted 24 March 2010 - 15:06

Is there a publisher of technical working drawings and/or prints of them?

Full disclosure: My background is in art and communications. I'm interested in technical drawings because a) I'm from Detroit, worked in the Rouge plant as did all my relatives... motor oil runs in our veins, and b) I've always teetered on the border between science & technology on the one hand and art and aesthetics on the other. For example, I started college intending to get degrees in nuclear physics and ended up with them in fine arts.

The point is, technically I am not qualified to contribute to this thread as most of you are. But from another perspective, art and aesthetics, I have an appreciation and admiration that even most practitioners seem unconcerned about. In an earlier post, I compared some of Tony Matthews' working drawings to some Leonardo drawings.

Maybe it's my own narrow perspective but it seems to me there must be a market among those who appreciate fine art for reproductions of these technical drawings. I think especially many of the working drawings are beautiful works worthy of being displayed as art. In my admittedly limited search, I do not find anyone who publishes such reproductions. I've found some reproductions of finished works, but not for working drawings. Are there any?

Here's another example to support my view that your working drawings are works of art. In an earlier post #4228, Duc-Man posted a link to a Rex Burnett site. John Burnett (son?) appears to be selling prints directly... and maybe that's the way it should be.

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Posted 24 March 2010 - 15:58

I read it as "Debusmann 58". Debusmann is a German name, uncommon but not entirely unknown. Germans of an older generation sometimes place a horizontal line above a "u" in order to distinguish it from an "n".


Very good NPP :up:

I have found a 'H. injure Debusmann' associated with the production of a black and white cutaway of the 1936 BMW 326 engine produced in 1941. The actual signature is too small to make out, but the coincidence in this case is surely overwhelming.

(Ever thought of taking up the old detective work full time NPP? :up: :) )

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Posted 24 March 2010 - 16:05

Very good NPP :up:

I have found a 'H. injure Debusmann' associated with the production of a black and white cutaway of the 1936 BMW 326 engine. The actual signature is too small to make out but the coincidence is overwhelming.


I can't figure out what "H. injure" might stand for. Do you have a scan - maybe I can figure that out as well?

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Posted 24 March 2010 - 16:44

I can't figure out what "H. injure" might stand for. Do you have a scan - maybe I can figure that out as well?


I'm afraid it is more of a catalogue entry, with an extremely small thumbnail. But, thanks to you, we now have a name and an era in which he was definitely active 1941 -58. It is likely that Ibsen has more and better quality scans of his work to come, I hope. But I think you have pretty much nailed it.

The entry in its original context.

BMW Bayerische Motoren Werke AG, Munich:

"auf A4 gefaltet,absolute Rarität! with a large poster (118 x 82 cm) color view, and b / w cross section through the engine of the BMW 326 of 1936, signed by H. injure Debusmann, 1941, at the kinks and folded at the bottom with tears, on A4, rarity ! sonst nicht angeboten. otherwise not available."


Glas was purchased by BMW in 66, if 'Debusmann' was working for BMW in 1941 and Glas in 1958 then that probably rules himout as being a staff employee of either company?

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Posted 24 March 2010 - 17:12

I'm afraid it is more of a catalogue entry, with an extremely small thumbnail. But, thanks to you, we now have a name and an era in which he was definitely active 1941 -58. It is likely that Ibsen has more and better quality scans of his work to come, I hope. But I think you have pretty much nailed it.

The entry in its original context.

BMW Bayerische Motoren Werke AG, Munich:

"auf A4 gefaltet,absolute Rarität! with a large poster (118 x 82 cm) color view, and b / w cross section through the engine of the BMW 326 of 1936, signed by H. injure Debusmann, 1941, at the kinks and folded at the bottom with tears, on A4, rarity ! sonst nicht angeboten. otherwise not available."


Glas was purchased by BMW in 66, if 'Debusmann' was working for BMW in 1941 and Glas in 1958 then that probably rules himout as being a staff employee of either company.



You probably mean this one WP. but I can't see where the " injure" is from ?

http://images.google...p...&tbs=isch:1

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Bayerische Motoren Werke AG München BMW:

Lehrtafel 24 BMW 2Liter 50 PS 6 Zylinder-Wagen Bm 326
München. Klein& Volbert.
ohne Jahr ca. 40er 50er Jahre ein großes Plakat mit (118 x 82 cm) farbiger Ansicht und s/w Querschnitt durch den Motor des BMW 326 von 1936, gezeichnet von H. Debusmann 1941, an den Knickstellen lädiert und am unteren Rand mit Einrissen, auf A4 gefaltet,absolute Rarität! sonst nicht angeboten.
Der BMW 326 ein viertüriger Personenwagen des bayerischen Fahrzeugherstellers BMW in den späten 30er Jahren. Ich biete noch ein weiteres Plakat: BMW Schwerer Maschinensatz 15 KVA
Sprache: Deutsch
Bestellnummer: 7667
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Posted 24 March 2010 - 17:59

You probably mean this one WP. but I can't see where the " injure" is from ?

http://images.google...p...&tbs=isch:1

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Bayerische Motoren Werke AG München BMW:

Lehrtafel 24 BMW 2Liter 50 PS 6 Zylinder-Wagen Bm 326
München. Klein& Volbert.
ohne Jahr ca. 40er 50er Jahre ein großes Plakat mit (118 x 82 cm) farbiger Ansicht und s/w Querschnitt durch den Motor des BMW 326 von 1936, gezeichnet von H. Debusmann 1941, an den Knickstellen lädiert und am unteren Rand mit Einrissen, auf A4 gefaltet,absolute Rarität! sonst nicht angeboten.
Der BMW 326 ein viertüriger Personenwagen des bayerischen Fahrzeugherstellers BMW in den späten 30er Jahren. Ich biete noch ein weiteres Plakat: BMW Schwerer Maschinensatz 15 KVA
Sprache: Deutsch
Bestellnummer: 7667
120,00
0,00
120,00


Yep, that is the exact one Macoran. Except the one I'm looking at is about 1/8th of the size. + your right about the 'injure', sorry, I think it is a by-product of my google translation or just an error, Scratch the 'injure' :up: :)

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#4247 macoran

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Posted 24 March 2010 - 21:41

A Giulio Betti with a completely different style !
Very much a combination of "artsy" painting and cutaway
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1931 Maybach Zeppelin DS8

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Posted 24 March 2010 - 22:51

Where the Devil is Tony?

He hasn't posted in over two weeks! :|

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Posted 25 March 2010 - 01:21

Joining the Chorus:

Where is Mr Matthews?

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Ferrari 312 PB 1972 cutaway by Demand.

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Posted 25 March 2010 - 01:30

Where the Devil is Tony?

He hasn't posted in over two weeks! :|

I understand that he has a project out of town for a couple weeks. My guess is he's focused on it, maybe sans computer and likely sapped at the end of the day.... just speculation, except for the "project out of town" part/