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#4601 macoran

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Posted 20 April 2010 - 19:27

Great!!
That is one more! :clap:
Still looking forward :rotfl:
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If you had followed the posts, you would have realised this is the last one I have found to date

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#4602 asapiro

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Posted 20 April 2010 - 19:27

D Nye was all over this car at the Festival - he could tell us ...
from what I recall, it is !

The actual car was at Goodwood in 2005:
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so are the cutaways accurate? :cool:

Paul M

In this case I think confirmation can only be provided through actual observation and identification of genuine 'Lilliputian engine parts'. But that is just my opinion. (Lilliputian toolmakers are notoriously coy).



#4603 macoran

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Posted 20 April 2010 - 19:34

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Lamborghini Diablo-Artist unknown?
I have seen that helmetted pencil on other cutaways but haven't as yet been able to identify it

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Lamborghini Diablo FS-Artist unknown?
This colour version looks very much like the above line drawing



#4604 werks prototype

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Posted 20 April 2010 - 19:46

It is the same. I don't know if there is anything to distinguish the FS version.

EDIT: Actually, driver side foot mat!

Edited by werks prototype, 20 April 2010 - 19:48.


#4605 macoran

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Posted 20 April 2010 - 21:02

2 of the newest cutaways around
David Kimble's 2010 Camaro
and
Porsche publicity 2010 911 GT3
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#4606 macoran

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Posted 20 April 2010 - 21:03

It is the same. I don't know if there is anything to distinguish the FS version.

EDIT: Actually, driver side foot mat!
both mats !! :rotfl:



#4607 Jones Foyer

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Posted 20 April 2010 - 23:34

"I have seen that helmetted pencil on other cutaways but haven't as yet been able to identify it"

Helmut Marko? (marker)

Heh. Seriously, maybe it is rebus of sort and the guy's name is Helmut...

#4608 ibsenop

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Posted 21 April 2010 - 01:07

"I have seen that helmetted pencil on other cutaways but haven't as yet been able to identify it"

Disegni Disante (this is the name I remember) - Lusuardi (this is the name to whom Autosprint gave the credit).
It could be Sante Lusuardi

Sante Lusuardi nasce a Correggio (RE) nel 1951.
La passione per le auto sportive è forte e Modena lo attira.
Diplomatosi all'Istituto Tecnico ha quindi la possibilità di lavorare nel settore.
Per 20 anni è impiegato alla Ferrari di Maranello come impiegato addetto nel settore delle pubblicazioni tecniche.
Da autodidatta si perfeziona nel disegno non tecnico, poi come libero professionista, collabora con Ferrari, Dallara,Fiat Auto corse ed tanti altri.
Soppiantato dall'uso del computer, si dedica ora alla Motoring Art con lavori prevalentemente a tempera nel formato A3.
Per maggiori dettagli consultate il suo sito: www.santelusuardi.com (not working)
o scrivete una mail a:santelusuardi@virgilio.it

Dallara 392 Opel Spiess and Dallara 392 Mugen cutaway by Lusuardi.
From Autosprint 43 - Anno XXXII - 20-26 ottobre 1992.

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Ibsen

Edited by ibsenop, 21 April 2010 - 02:33.


#4609 Tony Matthews

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Posted 21 April 2010 - 06:47

"I have seen that helmetted pencil on other cutaways but haven't as yet been able to identify it"

Helmut Marko? (marker)

Heh. Seriously, maybe it is rebus of sort and the guy's name is Helmut...

:)

#4610 werks prototype

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Posted 21 April 2010 - 10:12

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Does anyone know what this is doing (From Ibsens post above). Not the ECU?

#4611 Tony Matthews

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Posted 21 April 2010 - 11:42

Not the ECU?

Looks like one to me!

#4612 werks prototype

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Posted 21 April 2010 - 11:48

Looks like one to me!


You don't know how significant that is for one as technically illiterate as I. :drunk: :up:



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Posted 21 April 2010 - 12:35

Unkown artist, but explains a concept nicely!

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I'm off home tomorrow, so I'll be posting the cutaway book I mentioned fairly soon!

#4614 werks prototype

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Posted 21 April 2010 - 12:38

Unkown artist, but explains a concept nicely!

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I'm off home tomorrow, so I'll be posting the cutaway book I mentioned fairly soon!


:up: Particularly looking forward to the Shell book material!

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Posted 21 April 2010 - 17:32

2 of the newest cutaways around
David Kimble's 2010 Camaro
and
Porsche publicity 2010 911 GT3
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Marc,
Where did that Kimble piece come from? I have some promo posters that were done on some of his pieces, but there are all photographic renditions. This one looks great, as always, if a bit overcomplicated visually.
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#4616 macoran

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Posted 21 April 2010 - 18:29

Marc,
Where did that Kimble piece come from? I have some promo posters that were done on some of his pieces, but there are all photographic renditions. This one looks great, as always, if a bit overcomplicated visually.
Tom West

I was Googling around looking for something else, and came across it here:
http://images.google...p...&tbs=isch:1

#4617 macoran

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Posted 21 April 2010 - 19:33

From Inside 100 Great Cars and issue 17 of The Car magazine
1984 Corvette
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The credit in the colofon reads General Motors, but look at the way the glass is cut !!!
Even the way the side window has the lower part of the glass cut-away..............it reads Betti for me. Giulio ?


#4618 macoran

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Posted 21 April 2010 - 20:37

:up:

There is a dearth of Lambo material so far in this thread. Can we make an effort to redress the balance?

I should be able to add

Lamborghini Miura by Keith Fretwell
Lamborghini Urraco by Martin Donovan

as soon as I take apart "Inside 100 Great Cars". As it is a bound book,
I want to check and see how to thread it back together again first.

edit to add......and a low res Murcielago

Edited by macoran, 21 April 2010 - 20:57.


#4619 macoran

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Posted 21 April 2010 - 20:39

"I have seen that helmetted pencil on other cutaways but haven't as yet been able to identify it"

Disegni Disante (this is the name I remember) - Lusuardi (this is the name to whom Autosprint gave the credit).
It could be Sante Lusuardi

Sante Lusuardi nasce a Correggio (RE) nel 1951.
La passione per le auto sportive è forte e Modena lo attira.
Diplomatosi all'Istituto Tecnico ha quindi la possibilità di lavorare nel settore.
Per 20 anni è impiegato alla Ferrari di Maranello come impiegato addetto nel settore delle pubblicazioni tecniche.
Da autodidatta si perfeziona nel disegno non tecnico, poi come libero professionista, collabora con Ferrari, Dallara,Fiat Auto corse ed tanti altri.
Soppiantato dall'uso del computer, si dedica ora alla Motoring Art con lavori prevalentemente a tempera nel formato A3.
Per maggiori dettagli consultate il suo sito: www.santelusuardi.com (not working)
o scrivete una mail a:santelusuardi@virgilio.it
Ibsen

:up: Lusuardi , That's him Ibsen

Edited by macoran, 21 April 2010 - 20:40.


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#4620 werks prototype

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Posted 21 April 2010 - 21:30

I should be able to add

Lamborghini Miura by Keith Fretwell
Lamborghini Urraco by Martin Donovan

as soon as I take apart "Inside 100 Great Cars". As it is a bound book,
I want to check and see how to thread it back together again first.

edit to add......and a low res Murcielago


Well, I will be particularly looking forward to seeing the Urraco :up: I wonder if there is a Lamborghini Marzal out there somewhere in the ether? Do you really have to take the book apart though? I think we could live with a warped image in the name of the integrity of your book.

Edited by werks prototype, 21 April 2010 - 21:31.


#4621 macoran

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Posted 21 April 2010 - 21:40

I think we could live with a warped image in the name of the integrity of your book.

I can't , that's why I rework all my scans

#4622 werks prototype

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Posted 21 April 2010 - 21:55

I can't , that's why I rework all my scans


I feel guilty. (Book murder)  ;)

Edited by werks prototype, 21 April 2010 - 21:57.


#4623 werks prototype

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Posted 21 April 2010 - 22:02

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1986 Maserati 425 Biturbo (Factory illustration)

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#4624 werks prototype

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Posted 21 April 2010 - 22:14

1995 Maserati Ghibli Engine.

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Posted 21 April 2010 - 22:21

Maserati Quattroporte with a rather strange negative camber front and rear.

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Edited by werks prototype, 23 May 2010 - 01:04.


#4626 Tony Matthews

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Posted 21 April 2010 - 22:43

From Inside 100 Great Cars and issue 17 of The Car magazine
1984 Corvette
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The credit in the colofon reads General Motors, but look at the way the glass is cut !!!
Even the way the side window has the lower part of the glass cut-away..............it reads Betti for me. Giulio ?

Bruno!

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Posted 22 April 2010 - 00:18

Lamborghini Urraco cutaway by Bruno Betti

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Lamborghini Urraco engine cutaway by Bruno Betti

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Lamborghini Murcielago by Unknown artist

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Ibsen

#4628 Tony Matthews

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Posted 22 April 2010 - 06:35

Lamborghini Murcielago by Unknown artist

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Ibsen

I think thatcould be G Betti.

#4629 werks prototype

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Posted 22 April 2010 - 08:47

1983 Talbot Matra Murena By J Mignon

The Shitting Duck of Vaucanson. (Cross-section) A fine example of mankind's strong inclination toward reductive process.

What?
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#4630 werks prototype

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Posted 22 April 2010 - 08:50

Lamborghini Urraco cutaway by Bruno Betti

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Ibsen


Simply breathtaking! That has made my day. :up: The shadows on the fan blades, sublime!

Permission requested for either you or I to post it big Ibsen?

Edited by werks prototype, 22 April 2010 - 08:52.


#4631 macoran

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Posted 22 April 2010 - 21:06

Bruno!

Have you discovered which type of detailing distinquishes a Bruno from a Giulio ? Pray tell Tony !

Anyway here is another to ponder over.
It is credited to "Domus" in issue Nr. 31 of The Car magazine.
Now I clearly remember when I subscribed to Autosprint and QuattroRuote that they were published by Editoriale Domus.
So as the Betti's were more or less the in house cutaway artists, I am calling it a "by Betti"
Ferrari Dino 246 GT
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The engine I posted quite some time ago was creditted to Giulio

Edited by macoran, 22 April 2010 - 21:38.


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Posted 22 April 2010 - 21:33

wp, you were asking earlier about instruments - so far this is the best I can find of the rear, or front, depending how you look at it, of a bunch of instruments. 1959 Testa Rossa. I'm sure I've done a more complicated one, but can't think which vehicle it was!

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Phew! A typical 'Cathedral' like construction there Tony. :eek:

Yes I remember (and checked back), I commented on how we don't often get to see the drivers instrument panel and you were musing on the sophisticated simplicity of the front of the panels having evolved into a sort of cluttered complexity, but you also mentioned how the backs of even the early instrument panels were always a pain.

Having said that, looking at this example it is clear that you conquered it. And even more than that, as usual you were able to clarify it. Despite it being a relatively efficient panel at the front, there remains a fairly complex array of mechanical components at the rear. How easy was it for you to gain access to this area Tony, considering the nature of the beast? I simply don't know enough about the car, regarding the location of any possible removable panels to quite work out how you achieved it?

+ Were there any interesting stories associated with your overall encounter with the car?

#4633 ibsenop

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Posted 23 April 2010 - 00:41

Lamborghini 3500 V12 F1 cutaway by Bruno Betti.

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Ibsen

TNF Cutaway Index updated - page 110 - post 4367

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Posted 23 April 2010 - 07:49

Lamborghini 3500 V12 F1 cutaway by Bruno Betti.

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Ibsen

TNF Cutaway Index updated - page 110 - post 4367


interesting technique there with the gears on the front of the engine.

#4635 Tony Matthews

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Posted 23 April 2010 - 08:06

interesting technique there with the gears on the front of the engine.

Bruno and his brother have a very colourful style, Bruno particularly. I could never bring myself to add so much reflected tints - you certainly have to add some, and in reality everything we see has added colour, but there is much more than just a hint here! Obviously a green crankshaft and russet rods are to accentuate the components, but my chosen technique was to keep things as natural as possible, using highlights and reflected colour to differentiate (today's long word) one part from another. One of the things I notice about computer generated illustrations is that there is often no added colour, unless the illustrator knows his stuff. Without it everything looks a bit flat.

Overall the Lamborghini engine looks terrific, I especially like the trumpets and the carbon lower part of the detached air-box, very nice! However, I'm not a fan in principle of a lot of ghosting of solid metal parts, the gears worry me a little - as if Bruno Betti cares!

#4636 werks prototype

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Posted 23 April 2010 - 10:09

Now whom is responsible for this FW 13B? (Is it a 13B?)

Williams FW-13B

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Edited by werks prototype, 28 April 2010 - 18:31.


#4637 Tony Matthews

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Posted 23 April 2010 - 10:47

Flashback! I remembered that the Ferrari TR250, part of the working drawing for which I posted some time ago, probably had the most fiddly instrument area, and here it is in colour.

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...and a set of instruments from the driver's side - AM DBR1

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#4638 werks prototype

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Posted 23 April 2010 - 11:10


wp, you were asking earlier about instruments - so far this is the best I can find of the rear, or front, depending how you look at it, of a bunch of instruments. 1959 Testa Rossa. I'm sure I've done a more complicated one, but can't think which vehicle it was!

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Flashback! I remembered that the Ferrari TR250, part of the working drawing for which I posted some time ago, probably had the most fiddly instrument area, and here it is in colour.

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Yes. Especially with the presence of the reflection across windscreen? Complexity with an added layer of complexity!

How easy was it for you to gain access to the narrow area between the sill of the windscreen and the engine cover Tony?

Edited by werks prototype, 23 April 2010 - 11:16.


#4639 werks prototype

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Posted 23 April 2010 - 11:15

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...and a set of instruments from the driver's side - AM DBR1


What a neat little dash!

The textures of the seats and the welds as well, beautiful stuff.

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#4640 werks prototype

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Posted 23 April 2010 - 11:19

You are the best welder with paint that I have ever seen!

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Posted 23 April 2010 - 11:36

- part of working drawing of Ferrari TR250.

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This was the w/d I was thinking of, wp, part of which is shown above in colour.

Edited to say I find it hard to believe that I first posted this on page 30!. Rather than re-imageshack it I thought I'd just copy it from the earlier post - I started looking back page by page from #65, it took so long that in the end I just selected page 30 at random and bingo! There it was. I'm going to do the Euro lottery today - big house, nice little collection of cars, here I come!

Edited by Tony Matthews, 23 April 2010 - 11:43.


#4642 werks prototype

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Posted 23 April 2010 - 12:05

This was the w/d I was thinking of, wp, part of which is shown above in colour.

Edited to say I find it hard to believe that I first posted this on page 30!. Rather than re-imageshack it I thought I'd just copy it from the earlier post - I started looking back page by page from #65, it took so long that in the end I just selected page 30 at random and bingo! There it was. I'm going to do the Euro lottery today - big house, nice little collection of cars, here I come!


Yep, you are looking at a nailed on 'Lucky Dip' there. :) :up:

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Posted 23 April 2010 - 16:22

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#4644 Tony Matthews

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Posted 23 April 2010 - 17:37

You are the best welder with paint that I have ever seen!

Why, thank you, wp! Many years ago there was a brief period when the numbers at Jim Allington's studio were swollen from three to four, as an illustrator probably slightly older than Jim joined us - but didn't stay for long. There was obvious a clash of personalities. One day Jim commented on the newbie's drawing of welds on a Cooper chassis. He responded by saying that Jim's were a mess, blobby and massive. Jim said "You draw them as they are meant to look, I draw them as they are!"

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Posted 23 April 2010 - 17:46

"You draw them as they are meant to look, I draw them as they are!"


As it should be, but at times try telling the client that :)





#4646 Tony Matthews

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Posted 23 April 2010 - 17:56

As it should be, but at times try telling the client that :)

Quite right, Alan!

#4647 werks prototype

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Posted 23 April 2010 - 19:09

Why, thank you, wp! Many years ago there was a brief period when the numbers at Jim Allington's studio were swollen from three to four, as an illustrator probably slightly older than Jim joined us - but didn't stay for long. There was obvious a clash of personalities. One day Jim commented on the newbie's drawing of welds on a Cooper chassis. He responded by saying that Jim's were a mess, blobby and massive. Jim said "You draw them as they are meant to look, I draw them as they are!"


:) Wonderful stuff!

Do you recall any components where the process of drawing them "as they were" still felt counter-intuitive to your hand/eye? What about the fused trumpets on your TR250 for example, what an abstract construction these type of trumpets are wherever they crop up in all their different configurations!





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Posted 23 April 2010 - 20:13

Now whom is responsible for this FW 13B? (Is it a 13B?)

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It's the cutaway from the Tamiya boxtop wp
so, it might be a Hideo Mizokawa rendering.
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Posted 23 April 2010 - 21:34

It's the cutaway from the Tamiya boxtop wp
so, it might be a Hideo Mizokawa rendering.
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Aha! :up: Many thanks Macoran.

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Posted 24 April 2010 - 00:05

Lamborghini Urraco engine and gearbox cutaway by Bruno Betti

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Ibsen