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#151 joeljacobs

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Posted 01 July 2009 - 21:15

Tom (and others),

Do you recall Tom Peacock? I think he was an official at RA in the '60's. He was a mechanic for Frank Campbell in '58 and worked on his (and now my) Elva then. Contact info?

BobEngberg@aim.com


Hello Bob,

I knew Tom Peacock very well. He crewed for me a number of times, one of which was at the Nassau Trophy Races in 1962. As I recall, he was the SCCA Chicago Region Grid Marshall for many years. He also crewed for Ollie Schmidt, and was a good friend of Jim Scott who maintained Ollie's and my cars. He also was at RA when I last raced there in 1991.

I last talked to Tom some years ago shortly after he retired from his "day job". Unfortunately, his contact info was on an old computer, and I've lost it. He may have lived in Glenn Ellen, IL at the time. I did a white search and there are 8 Tom Peacocks in Illinois. The one in La Grange may be him.

Also try the Chicago Region's Office.

Joel Jacobs

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#152 grandprix61

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Posted 05 July 2009 - 04:57

Hello Bob,

I knew Tom Peacock very well. He crewed for me a number of times, one of which was at the Nassau Trophy Races in 1962. As I recall, he was the SCCA Chicago Region Grid Marshall for many years. He also crewed for Ollie Schmidt, and was a good friend of Jim Scott who maintained Ollie's and my cars. He also was at RA when I last raced there in 1991.

I last talked to Tom some years ago shortly after he retired from his "day job". Unfortunately, his contact info was on an old computer, and I've lost it. He may have lived in Glenn Ellen, IL at the time. I did a white search and there are 8 Tom Peacocks in Illinois. The one in La Grange may be him.

Also try the Chicago Region's Office.

Joel Jacobs

I saw this item about Tom Peacock. Going thru some old negs on a project and I found this one of Tom at Wilmot. I am pretty sure that is Tom. I am enjoying all the stuff about the old Elva crowd from the mid-west. That was quite a group. Ron Nelson
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#153 cabianca

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Posted 01 August 2009 - 20:10

RA Historian wrote:
According to the entry list, the rundown is #76, Ollie Schmidt, Lola-Osca; #98, Martin Tanner, Martin T Special; #9, Ed Walsh, Cooper T-39-Saab; #59, James Adams, Osca; #64, Mr. Jacobs, of course; then it is hard to make out if it is #16 or #18 next. If 16 it is Bruce Townsend, TXP Spl; if 18 it is Clarke Walser, Jabro.

Tom


The 59 OSCA was ex-Jack Gordon. The Cooper was the ex-Tippy Lipe Pooper, now modified as mentioned. It was in Kansas City for a few years with an OSCA engine. The engine was sold on and the Pooper was finally restored to its Porsche-engine spec and ran at the Montery Historics. As I think was mentioned, the 64 OSCA was ex-Ollie Schmidt who moved on to the Lola Mk1-OSCA. Ollie was usually ahead of the curve. Does anyone know what happened to Schmidt's rear-engine De Tomaso-OSCA that he ran in Class G for Jim Adams among others. If somone wants to see a pic of it, email me at provamo@comcast.net

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Posted 01 August 2009 - 22:37

Does anyone know what happened to Schmidt's rear-engine De Tomaso-OSCA that he ran in Class G for Jim Adams among others.

I certainly remember the car, saw it run a number of times in 1962, and have a number of photos of it in my archive. However, the driver whom I saw drive it was Jim Scott.
Tom

#155 cabianca

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Posted 02 August 2009 - 06:32

RA Historian wrote:
I certainly remember the car, saw it run a number of times in 1962, and have a number of photos of it in my archive. However, the driver whom I saw drive it was Jim Scott.

You are correct. Jim Scott it was. Jim Adams was a left coaster.



#156 ERault

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Posted 13 August 2009 - 18:33

RA Historian wrote:

The 59 OSCA was ex-Jack Gordon.


Are you sure ? Jack Gordon raced an OSCA S-187 several times after that, for example at Meadowdale (july), Bridgehampton (august) or Watkins Glen (september). Maybe he had two of them ?

#157 RA Historian

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Posted 13 August 2009 - 19:10

Are you sure ? Jack Gordon raced an OSCA S-187 several times after that, for example at Meadowdale (july), Bridgehampton (august) or Watkins Glen (september). Maybe he had two of them ?

I did not say that. Cabianca did.
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#158 ERault

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Posted 14 August 2009 - 16:24

Sorry about that. I misused the quoting tool.

#159 ElvaMK2

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Posted 31 August 2009 - 23:28

Tom,

There is a quick glimpse of a Maser passing what looks like a blue Elva MK II at the 1966 RA 500. Bruce Monroe and Baxter Rogers drove an Elva-Cl;imax in the race, #66, and dnf'd. I be interested in info about Monroe and his blue MK II. (And photos too, of course.)

Monroe also entered the car in the 1967 June Sprints.

Bob Engberg


Good luck, Leigh, I hope that your car is the one!

Tom



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#160 ElvaMK2

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Posted 31 August 2009 - 23:32

Joel,

Do you recall a Bruce Monroe, or Baxter Rogers? They raced an Elva MK II at the 1966 RA 500. Might have been blue.

Bob Engberg


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Posted 01 September 2009 - 00:39

Tom,

There is a quick glimpse of a Maser passing what looks like a blue Elva MK II at the 1966 RA 500. Bruce Monroe and Baxter Rogers drove an Elva-Cl;imax in the race, #66, and dnf'd. I be interested in info about Monroe and his blue MK II. (And photos too, of course.)

Monroe also entered the car in the 1967 June Sprints.

Bob Engberg

Wish I could be of assistance. I do not have any shots of Monroe, in fact, can't say that I am familiar with him at all. Apparently he was one of many club racers who came, raced, had a good time, and faded away after a while. Nothing wrong with that, of course, they had a good time and that is what matters.
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#162 raceannouncer2003

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Posted 01 September 2009 - 00:52

I be interested in info about Monroe and his blue MK II.


According to 10 Tenths, Monroe had a Mk III in 1965, chassis 100/66. Here is the link, see post 2:

http://www.ten-tenth...ead.php?t=95916

And according to Martin Krejci's site, Monroe and Baxter co-drove Monroe's Elva (#66) at Road America in 1966, while Baxter was also on the entry list co-driving Jackson Hazelwood's Mk II (#88). Here is the link for that:

http://wsrp.ic.cz/usrrc1966.html#8

Vince H.


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Posted 28 September 2009 - 04:00

my dad was Dave schack, I have some really incredible pics of the elva and other cars that he used to race. I also located the actual car it is back in England. Any info or preferd sites that i can post the pics on?

#164 RA Historian

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Posted 28 September 2009 - 16:37

Any info or preferd sites that i can post the pics on?

Here.

#165 ElvaMK2

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Posted 02 October 2009 - 01:41

my dad was Dave schack, I have some really incredible pics of the elva and other cars that he used to race. I also located the actual car it is back in England. Any info or preferd sites that i can post the pics on?


Yes, please post photos or send me email at bobengberg@aim.com

Verrrrry interested in the story of you dad's car and photos of it.

#166 ElvaMK2

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Posted 16 October 2009 - 18:01

Elva Reunion 2010 at Elkhart Lake. Look for info here and at the Elva website for news about a 2010 Elva Reunion at Road America, Elkhart Lake, in late summer. If you think you might go give Roger Dunbar a response.

#167 ElvaMK2

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Posted 07 February 2010 - 19:58

Looking for California Elva drivers to share R/T transport to Elkhart Lake for the September 2010 "Elva 55th Reunion." More the cheaper.

#168 ElvaMK2

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Posted 14 June 2010 - 01:35

Janos' book is scheduled to be released in time for the "Elva Reunion" at Road America in September, 2010.

Don't know if it has been mentioned before, and if it has, I apologize. Janos Wimpffen is finishing a new book, this one on the history of Elva. Based upon what else Janos has done, this will be VERY complete indeed.

Tom



#169 ElvaMK2

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Posted 17 May 2012 - 02:45

Janos' book is scheduled to be released in time for the "Elva Reunion" at Road America in September, 2010.



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Posted 17 May 2012 - 07:53

Here's the rear axle from MBU309 the 7th Elva made, it was built at the end of 1955/beginning of 1956.
I think it is 100E rather than E93A - 100E came out in 1953.
The same type was in chassis number 23, registered YKJ400 in October 1956.

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just read the thread - so old news, but maybe of use to someone -
the axle is 100e - [as pointed out e93a had torque tube]
the axle is essentially the same design as e93a , except 100e is wider [ 1/2 shafts not interchangeable]
the diff nose flange on the axle pictured is std 100e -
cheers
carl

ps. the axle tubes are easily distinguishable as the e93a has cast lugs either end to fit the transverse leaf spring
100e has conventional 'cart spring' spring perches

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Posted 17 May 2012 - 20:30

Reposting this from the Monaco Historique thread:

"...Very interesting to talk to Alan Patterson from Pennsylvania, whose is racing an Allard J2X. He apparently bought the car in 1952 and has been racing it ever since. HE ALSO HAS AN ELVA FJ AND AN ELVA MK IV. HE IS LOOKING FOR ELVAS MK I, MK II, AND MK III, AND A COOPER-BRISTOL. PM ME IF YOU CAN HELP..."

Vince H.

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Posted 04 October 2012 - 11:47

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Published with permission of Jay Wollenweber Copyright 2012.

My fellow blogger Jay Wollenweber kindly sent me some pics of the Elva Mk6 seen above at the recent Danville Concours d'Elegance, and says it 'may' be one of the two cars used in Viva Las Vegas, looking back in this thread I see Harmonizer 'may' own one of the films two Elvas namely #60/10. Can anyone confirm this is Harmonisers car and if so am I correct in thinking it is still Alfa powered ? Any other details on this car will be more than welcome.

Answers may be credited and used in a blog early next year, thanking you in anticipation of your responses.

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Posted 16 October 2012 - 21:16

I'm a contributor and supporter of all things Trojan which bought the Elva car company in the late 50's. The Trust Chairman is David Hambleton who is always looking for stories or pictures to add to the Trust's inventories. If you can help - contact details as follows-

DavidHambleton <david_hambleton@hotmail.com>;http://www.trojanmus...va_mclaren.html

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Posted 29 October 2012 - 19:28

I'm a contributor and supporter of all things Trojan which bought the Elva car company in the late 50's. The Trust Chairman is David Hambleton who is always looking for stories or pictures to add to the Trust's inventories. If you can help - contact details as follows-

DavidHambleton <david_hambleton@hotmail.com>;http://www.trojanmus...va_mclaren.html



Does anyone know the whereabouts of Tim Shenken who raced the Trojan F1?

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Posted 29 October 2012 - 19:37

Does anyone know the whereabouts of Tim Shenken who raced the Trojan F1?


His wiki biog suggests he is heavily involved with the administration of motorsport down under.

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Posted 29 October 2012 - 19:59

As Arttidesco says, he's currently a senior official with the Australian governing body CAMS, and can probably be contacted through that organisation:

CAMS
P.O. Box 147
Caulfield East VIC 3145
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Posted 29 October 2012 - 21:40

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Published with permission of Jay Wollenweber Copyright 2012.

My fellow blogger Jay Wollenweber kindly sent me some pics of the Elva Mk6 seen above at the recent Danville Concours d'Elegance, and says it 'may' be one of the two cars used in Viva Las Vegas, looking back in this thread I see Harmonizer 'may' own one of the films two Elvas namely #60/10. Can anyone confirm this is Harmonisers car and if so am I correct in thinking it is still Alfa powered ? Any other details on this car will be more than welcome.

Answers may be credited and used in a blog early next year, thanking you in anticipation of your responses.


The Alfa engined Elva Mk6 was here in the Vancouver area for the past 30 or so years owned by a close friend. It was fitted with Gerry Bruhl body and smaller wheels-it came from Dan Blocker and was documented as one of the cars in the movie. My friend sold the car recently and I wouldn't think there has been time to restore it to this condition. I could never understand why my friend (Harmonizer) never rebodied it.

Edited by David Birchall, 29 October 2012 - 21:40.


#178 Andrew Fellowes

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Posted 29 October 2012 - 22:03

Try Schenken. You might get on better.

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Posted 29 October 2012 - 22:06

The Alfa engined Elva Mk6 was here in the Vancouver area for the past 30 or so years owned by a close friend. It was fitted with Gerry Bruhl body and smaller wheels-it came from Dan Blocker and was documented as one of the cars in the movie. My friend sold the car recently and I wouldn't think there has been time to restore it to this condition. I could never understand why my friend (Harmonizer) never rebodied it.


Thanks for your help David :up:

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#180 richie

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Posted 30 October 2012 - 21:55

As Arttidesco says, he's currently a senior official with the Australian governing body CAMS, and can probably be contacted through that organisation:

CAMS
P.O. Box 147
Caulfield East VIC 3145
Australia


Thanks for your help.

#181 SydFox1

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Posted 04 November 2012 - 11:26

Rear of this car is ELVA MK1...front is slightly different...
Any ideas? late car? race modification?...other car?
Thanks!
François.

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I`ve just stumbled on this item...The first car I raced was a Mk1 Elve Climax of which I have a photo of.I dont recognise the front end of your picture and the Mk1 Elva that I drove had a DeDion rear.
We raced this car 1n 1960/61 and it handled badly.I later drove the Mk7,a so..so car and the Mk8...very good,designed by Patric Head..
Syd Fox.

#182 Peter Morley

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Posted 05 November 2012 - 00:55

I`ve just stumbled on this item...The first car I raced was a Mk1 Elve Climax of which I have a photo of.I dont recognise the front end of your picture and the Mk1 Elva that I drove had a DeDion rear.
We raced this car 1n 1960/61 and it handled badly.I later drove the Mk7,a so..so car and the Mk8...very good,designed by Patric Head..
Syd Fox.


Syd

If your car had a De-Dion it must have been a Mark 2 - you would have thought they would have sorted the handling by then!

The Mark 1 (originally it wasn't called the Mark 1 it was just an Elva) used a complete Standard 8/10 front subframe and Ford 100E solid rear axle.
Mark 1B eliminated the Standard subframe, attached the wishbones directly to the chassis and used rack & pinion steering but retained the solid Ford rear axle (the original cars then become known as Mark 1s).
Mark 2 had the same front suspension as a 1B but with a De-Dion rear axle.

I have a list of known and some missing early Elvas but no record of which car you drove (do have results from Janos Wimpffen with you driving a Mark 2 - Climax in various 1960-62 events).
Did it have a registration number or anything else that might help identify it?

Peter



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Posted 05 November 2012 - 10:54

Syd

If your car had a De-Dion it must have been a Mark 2 - you would have thought they would have sorted the handling by then!

The Mark 1 (originally it wasn't called the Mark 1 it was just an Elva) used a complete Standard 8/10 front subframe and Ford 100E solid rear axle.
Mark 1B eliminated the Standard subframe, attached the wishbones directly to the chassis and used rack & pinion steering but retained the solid Ford rear axle (the original cars then become known as Mark 1s).
Mark 2 had the same front suspension as a 1B but with a De-Dion rear axle.

I have a list of known and some missing early Elvas but no record of which car you drove (do have results from Janos Wimpffen with you driving a Mark 2 - Climax in various 1960-62 events).
Did it have a registration number or anything else that might help identify it?

Peter

Peter,
We were sold the car as a Mk1 and was 2/3 years old,it`s roadholding was bad up against the 1960+cars but you must be correct calling it a Mk2 as it had the Climax engine and we drove it 1960-61 before getting a second hand
Lola Climax to start the 62 season...the Lola was quite a revalation after the Elva.Thanks for you information,goes to show we never stop learning.

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Posted 05 November 2012 - 14:16

Peter,
We were sold the car as a Mk1 and was 2/3 years old,it`s roadholding was bad up against the 1960+cars but you must be correct calling it a Mk2 as it had the Climax engine and we drove it 1960-61 before getting a second hand
Lola Climax to start the 62 season...the Lola was quite a revalation after the Elva.Thanks for you information,goes to show we never stop learning.


Syd
I'm assuming it had the 'standard' Falcon type body which was fitted to many Mark 1s & 2s, Mark 3s had their own aluminium bodywork so the difference was clear without having to look under the bodywork, so it is easy to understand why someone other than an Elva anorak would call it a Mark 1 - even the chassis numbers don't differentiate between them.
I think the Lola was a revelation to everyone including Lotus!
Peter

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Posted 19 November 2012 - 07:21

Bexhill Museum's Mark III seen at The Classic Motor Show last weekend :-

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Am I correct in thinking Mk III's were built in Hastings ?

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Posted 19 November 2012 - 17:35

Bexhill Museum's Mark III seen at The Classic Motor Show last weekend :-

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Am I correct in thinking Mk III's were built in Hastings ?


Er, no, in the original factory. The Mk3 bodies were only ever in aluminium, and made by the Hastings Motor Sheet Metal Works, now Moore & Tye. The body on the museum car was made 3 years ago at Moore & Tye by Alan Jenner who made the original bodies at HMSM back in the day.

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Bob Curl, Roger, Alan Jenner, Anthony and Len, who unfortunately died recently, his funeral is tomorrow. All this courtesy of Bob Curl.

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Posted 19 November 2012 - 17:40

The Ford P68 nose is curiously reminiscent of that of the Mk3...

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Posted 19 November 2012 - 19:10

Thanks for the info BW, I can see the similarities between the Mk III and P68 too.

Sorry to hear about Len RIP.

Condolences to his family and friends.

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Posted 31 December 2012 - 01:10

Wondering if anyone can help with the identity of this Mk VII S which I saw at Race Retro a couple of years ago ?

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Relevant Answers maybe credited and used in a forthcoming blog.

Thanking you in anticipation of your responses.