Fathers, and sons, and families, and...
Posted 20 June 2001 - 05:14
Also in Australia there was the Brisbane family the Peters brothers Ian and Ken and one of their sons also Brett.
Marcel and Louis Renault were brothers and raced until Marcel died in a Paris to Madrid race in 1903.
Bernd Rosemeyer and his son both raced but the younger might have only raced motorcycles.
Kurt Ahrens Jr and Sr raced Formula Junior.
Pierre Levegh had an uncle who raced.
Paul Radisich is the son of Frank Radisich who raced in the sixties.
Another New Zealander is Mike Thackwell whose father Ray Thackwell raced in Australia in a Porsche.
Larry Perkins and Terry Perkins and I think there was another Perkins brother raced in Formula Vee to start and their father was Eddie Perkins who raced a Porsche.
Sid Sakzewski raced a Porsche too and his grandson Kurt raced HQ Holdens.
I remember a Graham Smith and Ross Smith who raced Fiats in club racing in Sydney and Mal Rose and Geoff Rose also and only Mal kept going and in that scene there was also David and Rodney Carroll.
In historic racing there is the Reids Ron has died but Malcolm and David are still going.
Posted 20 June 2001 - 07:18
Helmut and Ralf Kelleners
Siegfried Muller Sr and Jr
Karl Wendlinger and Karl Wendlinger (OK, raced F1 as well...)
Johann Abt and Christian Abt
Posted 20 June 2001 - 10:31
Teo and Corrado Fabi
Teo also has a son, Stefano who races in Formula Super A at the moment.
also Nelson Piquet Jr, he's in Formula A
Posted 20 June 2001 - 11:43
brothers Bruce and Wayne Anderson
brothers Lyndon and Greville Arnell
brothers David and Bill Attard
Ross Ambrose and son Marcos Ambrose
Harry Bargwanna and son Scott Bargwanna and nephew Jason Bargwanna
twins Neal and Rick Bates
Graeme Blanchard and son John Blanchard
Jack Brabham and sons Geoffrey, Gary and David Brabham
brothers Peter and Phil Brock and Peter's stepson James Brock (born Brock McIntosh)
Marshall Brewer and daughter Kerryn Brewer
Brian Callaghan and son Brian Callaghan Junior and daughter Michelle
Dennis Chapman and wife Debbie Chapman
Doug Chivas and son Doug Chivas Junior
brothers Peter (of Lotus fame) and Paul Collins
Gary Cooke and son Rohan Cooke
Iain Corness and wife Carole Corness
Warren Cullen and son Glenn Cullen
Lex Davison, sons Richard and Jon Davison, grandsons Will and Alex Davison (sons of Richard)
Laurie Donaher and son Mick Donaher
John Donnelly and son Chris
Gary Dumbrell and son Paul Dumbrell
Max Dumesny and wife Melinda Dumesny
brothers Bob and Ross Edgerton
John English and sons Sean and Craig English
Simon Evans and wife Sue Evans
Bob Forbes and son Rodney Forbes
Norm Fritter and daughter Coral Taylor
brothers Leo & Ian Geoghegan, and Leo's son Michael Geoghegan
Fred Gibson and wife Christine Gibson
Hoot Gibson and son Bevan Gibson
brothers Al and Kel Gough
brothers Ray and Paul Gulson, Ray's son Graham Gulson and daughter Tania Gulson
Alf Grant and son Tim Grant
John Harvey and son Gavin Harvey
Bob Jane and son Rodney Jane, and nephew Kim Jane
Journalists Will Hagon and son Toby Hagon
Ray Heffernan and son Kevin Heffernan
Don Holland and wife Jan Holland
Gary Jackson and wife Carol Jackson and son Matty Jackson
Dick Johnson and son Steven Johnson
Phil Johnson and son Grant Johnson
Stan Jones, son Alan Jones, grandson (adopted) Christian Jones
brothers Kim and Brad Jones and Kim's son Andrew Jones
brothers Warren and Graham Jonsson
Chas Kelly and son Owen Kelly
brothers Todd & Rick Kelly
Phil Kirkham and wife Megan Kirkham
Ray Lintott and son Martin Lintott
Frank (scruitineer) and son Craig Lowndes
Ian Luff and son Warren Luff
brothers Graham and John Lusty and cousin Ken Lusty
Bruce Lynton and son Beric Lynton
John McLean and son Cameron McLean
Peter McLeod and son Ryan McLeod
brothers Rod and Russ McRae
Peter Macrow and sons Adam and Tim
Spencer Martin and son Matthew Martin
Ray Morris and son Bob Morris
Terry Morris and son Paul Morris
brothers Cos and Mick Monterosso
Tony Noske and son Mark Noske
Bill O'Brien and son Peter O'Brien
Ross and Ian Palmer (brothers) and Darren Palmer (Ross' son)
Graham Parsons and son David 'Skippy' Parsons
Eddie Perkins (VW round Australia rallyist) and sons Terry & Larry Perkins
Keith Poole and son Mark Poole
Bob Power and sons Will and Nick
Nathan Pretty and sister Nicole Pretty
Drew Price and niece Melinda Price
Frank Radisich and son Paul Radisich
Basil Ricciardello and son Tony Ricciardello
Jim Richards and son Steven Richards
Graham Ritter and nephew Greg Ritter
Bap Romano and son Paul Romano
Garry Rush and sons Warren and Garry Rush Junior
brothers Troy and Luke Searle
Bo Seton and son Glenn Seton
Glynn Scott and sons Gary and Tony Scott
Bill Sieders and son Luke Sieders
Ian Simpson and son Michael Simpson
Russell Skaife and son Mark Skaife
journalists Max Stahl and son Michael Stahl
Bruce Stewart and son Darren Stewart
Bib Stillwell and son Mike Stillwell
John Trimbole and son Michael Trimble (spelling is correct)
Ron Wanless and sons Dean and Todd Wanless
Kes Weel and son Paul Weel
Graeme Whincup and son Jamie Whincup
John White and son Stephen White
Peter Williamson and brother-in-law Mike Quinn
brothers Kent and Brett Youlden and Brett's son Luke Youlden
Posted 20 June 2001 - 12:32
Posted 20 June 2001 - 13:58
Posted 20 June 2001 - 16:28
Lazier..Bob,Buddy and Jacques
Holbert..Bob and Al
Heimrath..Ludwig and Ludwig
Jones..Tom and John
Rahal..Robert and Bobby
Rutherford..JR and John Jr.?
The Kinser clan..Steve,Sheldon etc. etc.
Moore..Ric and Greg
Posted 20 June 2001 - 16:36
Baker,Buck and Buddy
Paul,John and John Jr.
Allison,Bobbie and Davie
Posted 20 June 2001 - 17:54
NASCAR Winston Cup:
Petty's (Lee, Richard, and Kyle) 262 wins, 10 WCC
Allison's (Bobby, Donnie and Davey) 113 wins, 1 WCC
Earnhardt's (Dale and Dale Jr.) 78 wins, 7 WCC
Jarrett's (Ned and Dale) 77 wins, 3 WCC
Baker's (Buck and Buddy) 65 wins, 2 WCC
Flock's (Tim and Fonty) 59 wins, 2 WCC
Labonte's (Terry and Bobby) 39 wins, 3 WCC
Schumacher's (Michael and Ralf) 50 wins, 3 WDC
Hill's (Graham and Damon) 36 wins, 3 WDC
Villeneuve's (Gilles and Jacques) 17 wins, 1 WDC
Unser's (Al Sr., Bobby and Al Jr.) 105 wins, 7 Championships
Andretti's (Mario, Michael and John) 93 wins, 5 Championships
Combined* (NASCAR Winston Cup/IndyCar/F1):
1) Petty's---262 wins, 10 Championships
2) Allison's---113 wins, 1 Championship
3) Andretti's---108 wins, 6 Championships
4) Unser's---105 wins, 7 Championships
*includes NASCAR wins by Mario and John as well as F1 wins and championship by Mario.
Add in Graham Hill's Indy 500 win and the Hill's total grows to 37 wins and 3 WDC
Add in Jacques Villeneuve's 5 CART wins and one Championship, and Gilles brother Jacques lone CART win and the Villeneuve's total grows to 23 wins and 2 championships
Posted 21 June 2001 - 00:39
Great list! Must have taken some time.
But regarding the Bargwannas, isn't Jason the son and Scott the nephew of Harry?
Posted 21 June 2001 - 01:40
The Vukoviches(?), Bill and Billy, as well
The Bettehausens, Tony, Sr. and Gary
Oncle and nephew, Ralph de Palma and Pete de Paolo
Jacques Villeneuve's (Gilles's brother's) CART victory at Road America in 1985 should also be counted in the family's total.
Posted 21 June 2001 - 05:06
Ian Simpson also had a brother named Alan and they raced Vees together in Tasmania.
Frank Lowndes also rallied and possibly raced and he was a mud-plugger I'm fairly sure with Donald Thomson and John Pryce and John Pryce's daughter raced too which reminds me about Kaye Whiteford daughter of Doug Whiteford she raced too.
Garry Cooke had a brother in racing too named Denis and their father also raced Bill Cooke.
The Bargwanna family I already mentioned is bigger than that I forgot Scott but there was old Harry and John and Harry and Alf and the two boys and they came from hillclimbs where there was also Alan Burrows whose father was Les who raced before the war and his son was John in sports sedans.
Which reminds me of Eldred Norman and his son Mike.
In the Taylors you could add husband and wife Herb and Gloria.
In the Hoot Gibson family you forgot Paul Grant and Carl and Grant and Carl both went on after racing to work for Formula One teams.
In the Janes there was also Bob's brother Bill Kim's father.
And there was also Alan Heasman and son Doug.
Posted 21 June 2001 - 05:09
Posted 21 June 2001 - 12:27
Most of the time was taken up by the typing, most of it came out of those speadsheets I sent you copies of last year. Which reminds me - was I supposed to send you updated versions including Bathurst 2000?
I wasn't sure about Bargs's kin completely, I'll defer to you, and leegle there.
There was also a Jane Bargwanna, sister to either Jason or Scott, a former Miss Australia who used the family connection to kick some serious ass in one of those women only Grand Prix celebrity races. She didn't win, but she was well up the field. Must be genetics.
Oh and one more, how could I forget after running into him at Mount Cotton three weeks ago, - the REAL Big Kev. Real Big Kev's don't sell cleaning products, they race Lola F5000s and hideously underbraked Camaros.
Hope Bartlett and son Kevin Bartlett
hang on some more...
Ivan Tighe and son Dean Tighe
no I think I'm out now
tere's also Spencer Lowndes actually - he's not directly related to Frank and Craig - I think he's a cousin - it's the rally mention leegle made the connection.
And Ray Lintott's son is called Martin, not Spencer - getting the guys magled - damn I miss Rallying
I'll retro fit them all into the bigger list
Posted 21 June 2001 - 12:46
Posted 22 June 2001 - 03:40
Originally posted by leegle
The Bargwanna family I already mentioned is bigger than that I forgot Scott but there was old Harry and John and Harry and Alf and the two boys and they came from hillclimbs
Let's get these Bargwannas sorted...
Harry and Alf are twin brothers, are they not?
Jason is Harry's son, and Scott is Alf's son. Correct?
But who are "Harry and John"?
Posted 22 June 2001 - 03:54
Posted 22 June 2001 - 16:20
it was a name that didn't jump out at me initially, but a memory of somekind was triggerred by 'Hope'. Was there another Hope or am I confusing with Hoot Gibson. What meessage is my brain trying tosya - help!
Posted 22 June 2001 - 18:01
And there was Stuart Kostera who now fosters his Formula Ford racing son of the same name and I don't think you mentioned Greville Egerton son of Ron Egerton and you didn't mention the Hunter family of Brenda and John the children of Percy who all race in historic cars.
Posted 24 June 2001 - 07:21
Linda & Christine Savage
Originally posted by Frank de Jong
Shall we prepare for Mother´s day 2002? Does anyone know any mother/daughter racers? (I don´t...)
Posted 25 June 2001 - 17:11
And I'm not sure if the rally drivers have been mentioned but Toivonen, Makinen, Gronholm, all had racing dads in the 60's and 70's. And then we have the Stirling Moss in law who now runs Toyota TE.
Going back to Mexico, the current national F Vee champ has a son Agustín Arriaga and AA II, who is the leader in the series this year.
Mara reyes, our woman driver and one of the best ever in our tracks, is the daughter of another racer Miguel (won several modern Panamericana rallies), and has also a brother Miguel II.
There are the van Pratts, Armando (dad) and Erick (son) who just yesterday won the trailers race in Guadalajara. Brothers Rubén and Carlos Pardo are the 2000 touring 2 litre champs in a Chrysler Neon. And in that championship there are several siblings cometing, the Fernández (Alcvvaro and Eugenio) plus their dad Alvaro I, the Herrera renato and Ignacio, the Cabrera Jesús and Gabriel, and the national GT champo, Mustang driver, Rubén García Novoa has an uncle who was one of the best in the 60s, Rubén Novoa. Also the toutng champ in 1999, Lalo Gou is the son of another racer, Eduardo Gou who is still senior champ of Mexico in jet ski.
There must be others but these are the famous ones.
Posted 25 June 2001 - 20:21
Could you tell me more about the Van Beuren family ? I know
that Fredddy van Beuren Sr and Jr raced a lot in the USA. There
were others too, no ? What was their history ? Is their someone
in the family still racing today ?
Posted 25 June 2001 - 20:50
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Posted 26 June 2001 - 04:28
How could you forget Roger and Scott Stoddard ????
Posted 06 August 2001 - 09:50
I just wanna had that Philippe Siffert is actually doing the Clio V6 Trophy.
One of Willy Mairesse's sons tried racing and he was pretty good but he had people doing everything to make him stop. He prefeirs sailing anyway.
Also Alexandre Pilette, one of Teddy's sons, has been a kart champion in Belgium some years ago and his half-bro John tried racing too.
Posted 06 August 2001 - 10:05
Posted 06 August 2001 - 10:10
Originally posted by Carlos Jalife
And then we have the Stirling Moss in law who now runs Toyota TE.
Aren't you mixing Ove Andersson up with Eric Carlsson ?;)
Posted 07 August 2001 - 03:54
Originally posted by condor
..... John and Gavin Youl
John and Gavin's father, Boyce Youl, also raced. Driving the family's 3.4 Jaguar, he finished second to Len Lukey's Customline at Longford in 1958.
Posted 07 August 2001 - 04:02
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Posted 07 August 2001 - 18:38
Originally posted by inigo
Is Alex Gurney (drove FFord at Zandvoort last weekend) related to Dan Gurney?
Yep, this is his son.
Posted 08 August 2001 - 02:39
Dennis, Colin and Robbie Farr
Brian and Kelly Linigen (father and daughter)
Barry and Steven Graham
Bob and Grant Tunks
George and Brooke Tatnell (father and son)
Posted 08 August 2001 - 06:09
Les McLaren and Bruce McLaren
George Palmer and Jim Palmer
Les Moore and Ronnie Moore
Frank Shuter and sons Frank Jr and Rod
Doug Lawrence and sons Graeme, Tony, Brian and Wayne
John Riley and Brett Riley
Rob Lester, son Richard and daughter Debbie
Ray Williams and wife Elvie
There must be loads of others I can't think of at the moment (help me out here Milan!)
Posted 08 August 2001 - 11:03
From Madrid, more family racers.
Do you know Salvador Cañellas? He's driving a Seat Cordoba WRC in Spanish and World Rally Championship.
Well, his father, also Salvador, drove the work Seat around Europe, and even won 2 Grand Prix in World Motorcycle Championship.
Posted 08 August 2001 - 23:40
DJ and team owner David "Kid" Jensen and Viktor Thor Jensen
Guy Edwards and Sean Edwards
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Posted 09 August 2001 - 01:22
RICARDO SPERAFICO & RODRIGO SPERAFICO ! Ricardpo already tested the Williams F1 car.
Posted 07 July 2002 - 22:10
Dare drives for AJ Foyt. After the race Dare lined up with his boss Anthony Joseph Foyt II and Foyt's grandson, who had won one of the support races. His name? Anthony Joseph Foyt IV!
Posted 07 July 2002 - 22:42
Jean Alesi dad was a rally driver.
Posted 08 July 2002 - 08:01
His mother was Lucy O'Reilly, a voiturette racer in the late '20s and early '30s.
"Cacho Fangio" raced in F3 and F2 Temporadas in the '1960s, he was the natural son of El Chueco and was given the first name Oscar, but was not actually a true "Fangio" for his mother was married with another man whose name I don't know.
New Zealand : isn't dear old Kenny Smith the son of George Smith who raced in the '1950s ?
Ashmore : brothers Fred & Joe (F1 till 1949) each had a racing son : Gerry & Chris.
Mears : brothers Roger and Rick each had a racing son : Clint & Casey.
Dickson : father Tommy (sportscars '1950s) and son Norman (F2 & Aurora '1970s)
Indy 500 : there were too the Russos (bros Paul & Joe, & the latter's son Eddie), the Housers (father Thane, son Norman), the Endicotts (brothers Harry & William), the Parsons (Johnnie & Johnny jr), the Carters (Duane & Pancho)...
Argentina : father Domingo & son Clemar Bucci ; father Luis Rubén & son José Luis Di Palma.
Brazil : brothers Chico & Quirino Landi.
Martini : Giancarlo (F2 & non championship F1 in the '70s) had a son : Mauro (Japanese F 3000) and 2 nephews : Pierluigi and Oliver.
Gordini : Aldo was the son of Amédée.
South Africa : brothers Joe, Mike & Alan Domingo raced local F5000 & F1 cars.
Cyclecars in the '1920s : André Lombard & Ramón Bueno were half-brothers.
Other half-brothers : Didier Pironi & José Dolhem.
PS : I always wondered if New-Zealanders Ross Jensen & Syd Jensen were related. And if Australian singer Danii Minogue is from a racing family.
Posted 08 July 2002 - 08:20
Irish single seater scene of the '1960s-'1970s : father Malcolm Templeton, son Trevor.
1900-1920 : the von Opel brothers Fritz and Hans (these two at last among a handful of bros) raced the cars they produced. Rikky von Opel (F1 1973-1974) was related, probably a grand-son of one or the other.
Posted 08 July 2002 - 10:21
3 Perkins brothers raced Larry Terry and Peter.
Mexican brothers Johnny & Axel Gerber who both raced F3 in England late 60's early 70's. 1 of them won a trophy which was to be held for 12 months and then handed back, I dont think to British club got in back.
Bobby Allison's brother Donnie raced also.
Posted 08 July 2002 - 11:11