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#1 fw07c

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Posted 23 March 2006 - 12:42

Can anyone provide the following chassis numbers

1 Grand Prix de Monaco 21 May 1950
Charles Pozzi team G Grignand Car Talbot-Lago T26C
Yves Giraud-Cabantous Ecurie France Car Talbot-Lago T26C
"Pierre Levegh" team "Pierre Levegh" car Talbot-Lago T26C

2 Grand Prix de Belgique 18 June 1950
Eugene Chaboud Team Ecurie Lutelia Car Talbot-Lago T26C


3 Grand Prix de l'ACF 2 July 1950
Eugene Chaboud Team Ecurie Lutelia Car Talbot-Lago T26C


4 Gran Premio d'Italia 5 September 1949
Louis Chiron Team SCAFAC Ecurie France Car Talbot 26

5 Gran Premio de Pena Rhin 31 October 1949
Eugene Chaboud Team SCAFAC Ecurie France Car Talbot-Lago T26

Records courtesy of Paul Sheldon excellent "A record of Grand Prix and Voiturette Racing" volumes 4 and 5

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#2 GIGLEUX

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Posted 23 March 2006 - 13:43

Monaco 1950: Pozzi 110006. No entry for G.Cabantous (Ecurie France was not running in 1950!) and for Levegh.
Belgique 1950: Chaboud entered by the works 110053
ACF 1950: Chaboud entered by the works 110053. Did not started.
Italy 1950: Chiron started whith his usual Maserati 4CLT/48!
Pena-Rhin 1950: Chaboud was not entered!

#3 GIGLEUX

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Posted 23 March 2006 - 16:07

Corrections:
-1949 Italy Chiron Ecurie France 110007 didn't participate as no longer member of Ecurie France.
-1949 Pena Rhin: no such a race; in 1948 Chaboud Ecurie Mundia Course 110002

#4 fw07c

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Posted 25 March 2006 - 00:57

Many thanks for the information I was inquiring about 1948 Penya Rhin and not 1949 my typing

mistake. So if Eugene Chaboud car in Belgium was

Grand Prix de Belgique 18 June 1950
Eugene Chaboud Team Automobile Talbot Car Talbot-Lago T26C 110053

I have two further questions.

What did Louis Rosier drive in the Belgian race and who for?

What was his T26C chassis number in this race?

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#5 GIGLEUX

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Posted 25 March 2006 - 08:50

Chaboud was in the works team in Belgium 1950, be sure. Rosier, too was in the works team and drove 110051.

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Posted 25 March 2006 - 21:00

Thanks again. Now having solved Louis Rosier's chassis number in the Belgian Grand Prix this leaves Yves Giraud-Cabantous and

Philippe Etancelin

Grand Prix de Belgique 18 June 1950

Yves Giraud-Cabantous

Philippe Etancelin


I have four further questions on this race.


1 What did Philippe Etamcelin drive in the Belgian race and who for?

2 What was his T26C chassis number in this race?

3 What did Yves Giraud-Cabantous drive in the Belgian race and who for?

4 What was his T26C chassis number in this race?

This information on Eugene Chaboud and Louis Rosier casts doubts on Paul Sheldon's account on this race and the French Grand

Prix which leads me to ask the following questions.

What did Louis Rosier, Yves Giraud-Cabantous,Philippe Etancelin, Pierre Levegh and Raymond Sommer drive in the French race

and who for?

What were their T26C chassis numbers in this race?

Has anybody else have doubts the Talbot-Lago chassis numbers in Paul Sheldon "A Record of Grand Prix and Voiturette racing

volume 5"? By the way I consider that his "Black" books to be the best written source on Grand Prix races.


Cheers

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#7 GIGLEUX

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Posted 25 March 2006 - 22:25

Belgium 1950:
Etancelin 110054, works entry, G.Cabantous 110052, works entry.
ACF 1950:
Rosier 110051, works entry, G.Cabantous 110052, works entry, Etancelin-Chaboud 110054 works entry,Sommer T26GS 110058, works entry, "Levegh" 110005, his own car but entered by the works.