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#151 Lee Nicolle

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Posted 02 May 2013 - 23:16

What about a Formula Vee fitted with a full rollcage and large knobbly rear tyres?

Ken Blockhan raced such a vehicle at the Pikes Peak Hill Climb from 1972-1975:

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That has been done before too. Short course offroad and motorkhanas etc.
One playing on the hills here too with a big engine, IRS and slicks.

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#152 arttidesco

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Posted 14 August 2015 - 16:22

I can't resist!

 

161 Mark Rigg/Lotus Maserati/2699 - Lotus 18 919

 

Mike Riggs Lotus Maserati came up in an fb conversation just now according to Mike Virr who worked on the car it was a Lotus 24 not 18 here is what he said

 

"Mike Virr The Lotus 18 was built up with the Coventry Climax 1.5 liter engine a year or two before the Lotus 24 was bought from Tim Parnell's outfit. I think the chassis no was P 2 or 3.(I am not at home near my records). The 18 was sold to Paul Ridgeway and he used it for the UK hill climb Championships. The Lotus 24 was a completely separate car on which Maurice Owen did most of the work, he later became chief engineer of Morgans. We fitted the 4 cylinder Birdcage Maser engine because, as a small team it was the closest we could get to a powerful 3 liter engine for the new 3 liter F1 formula. After several years the car was bought by David Prophet who took the car down to South Africa for the SA GP. I lost track of it after that but I heard that David dropped a valve and it was sold out there and somebody fitted a small block Chevy V8 in it."

 

Hope that helps ;-)



#153 group7

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Posted 06 February 2016 - 03:01

not sure if this machine would fit the theme of this thread ? but could not find an appropriate spot. I believe this to be Roger Mac, in a Jaguar special ? the photo is Silverstone  August 8th. 1964. can any one tell me about this car, and exactly what it is. I think most know how to enlarge the photo.

 

https://revslib.stan...log/zb870dj8239

 

 

 

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#154 Allan Lupton

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Posted 06 February 2016 - 09:04

The date and style of Comp. No. means it was taking part in the 750MC Six Hour Relay.

Study of Motor Sport shows there were two Jaguar D.C. teams one of which was No. 23 so No. 1 could have been the other - unusually MS only has results and some photos but no race report.



#155 Tim Murray

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Posted 06 February 2016 - 12:56

There are a couple of other photos of the car on this page of photos taken at the 1964 6 Hour Relay:

http://mydadsphotos...._silv_6hr_1964/

Both are captioned 'Team 1 Jaguar Drivers A, Car A - Jaguar E-Type (Roger Mac)'. There's another photo of Car D in the team, which is AJ Lambert's E-Type.

#156 Rob Miller

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Posted 06 February 2016 - 19:18

That is one busy pit lane.



#157 Allan Lupton

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Posted 06 February 2016 - 23:01

That is one busy pit lane.

In those days the teams had their next car in the pit area ready to go when the changeover was needed. The elevated pit lane had only one way in, so to get that car to its place it needed to drive along that narrow track past the other parked cars which was also used by incoming cars (as in this picture) and their replacments.

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#158 Dutchy

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Posted 08 February 2016 - 13:07

The car pictured is rather reminiscent of the Border Rievers 'flat iron' Lister HCH 736



#159 Allan Lupton

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Posted 08 February 2016 - 15:11

The car pictured is rather reminiscent of the Border Rievers 'flat iron' Lister HCH 736

Much more likely than an E-Type special in my opinion. e.g. it's got the D-type/Lister wheels and I doubt the special-builders were using E-types as raw materials as early as 1964.

The photo caption may be based on the race day programme and car 1A may have been something quite different as a late substitute.

There were other "flat iron" Listers of course and the Border Reivers car didn't have the rear air scoops at Le Mans when they'd be necessary if ever they were.



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#160 hamsterace

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Posted 08 February 2016 - 16:34

Much more likely than an E-Type special in my opinion. e.g. it's got the D-type/Lister wheels and I doubt the special-builders were using E-types as raw materials as early as 1964.

The photo caption may be based on the race day programme and car 1A may have been something quite different as a late substitute.

There were other "flat iron" Listers of course and the Border Reivers car didn't have the rear air scoops at Le Mans when they'd be necessary if ever they were.

 

Indeed - as Duchy says, it's definitely the ex-Border Reivers car HCH 736, although at this stage is appears to have had the number plate removed and the rear brake cooling scoops fitted. To be fair, in the days before "modern" high boiling point brake fluids, the inboard rear brakes were notoriously prone to overheating on Listers and pretty much everyone from the works, to Ecosse, to journeyman privateers fitted scoops of some description in an effort to get cool air to the diff./ caliper area.

 

At the time, the car was owned by the Hon. Richard Wrottesley, and I believe the curious quartered flag colours on the door (and, if my eyesight doesn't deceive me) the driver's crash helmet were the old family horse racing colours. I believe he was what is known as a "colourful" character, and my father raced against him extensively in the early 1960s in Formule Libre events. HCH had, by this stage, started to look very second hand which - from my mother's first hand recollections - could apparently also be said of Wrottesley and his entourage....



#161 group7

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Posted 08 February 2016 - 16:59

thanks for the replies, I was thinking Lister as well, also bit early for a modified E-type, mind a few had probably met solid objects by that time, so that is a possibility.

 

hamsterace...looking at the design on the door, in hindsight, but the image is black and white, if those were red squares, that would be the logo for the Polish wing of the RAF, my uncle flew P-51 Mustangs with 315 Polish Squadron during the war. the design is  reversed, or upside down, on the drivers helmet though !

 

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#162 bradbury west

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Posted 08 February 2016 - 17:02

OT a bit. For an entertaining read it is worth searching the Daily Telegraph obits, go via News link, for the obituary of Richard Wrottesley's stepmother, Marion. There are interesting notes about Rotters and his crowd too.

Sorry but tech stuff means I cannot do a link

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#163 Allan Lupton

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Posted 08 February 2016 - 17:36

OT a bit. For an entertaining read it is worth searching the Daily Telegraph obits, go via News link, for the obituary of Richard Wrottesley's stepmother, Marion. There are interesting notes about Rotters and his crowd too.

Sorry but tech stuff means I cannot do a link

Roger Lund

yere 'tis:

http://www.telegraph...Wrottesley.html



#164 bradbury west

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Posted 08 February 2016 - 20:13

Many thanks, Allan.
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