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#1 Scuderia SSS

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Posted 06 May 2006 - 12:03

Thought it might be a bit of fun having a guess the car from the close up.
I'm sure many of you have got similar photos.
Here's 2 to start the ball rolling.
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#2 Alan Cox

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Posted 06 May 2006 - 13:19

Top is the Napier Railton

#3 Scuderia SSS

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Posted 06 May 2006 - 13:58

Indeed it is.
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And the other?

#4 Tim Murray

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Posted 06 May 2006 - 14:41

Lotus 18?

#5 RTH

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Posted 06 May 2006 - 15:24

.........and these ?

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#6 philippe charuest

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Posted 06 May 2006 - 19:02

Originally posted by RTH
.........and these ?

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the one in the midlle look like a ferrari 250gt Short Wheel Base of the rob walker team

#7 kayemod

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Posted 06 May 2006 - 19:18

Originally posted by philippe charuest
the one in the midlle look like a ferrari 250gt Short Wheel Base of the rob walker team


I can see Sir Stirling's fingerprints on the steering wheel.

#8 doc knutsen

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Posted 07 May 2006 - 08:45

Originally posted by RTH
.........and these ?

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Top one is a C2 of some sort, Tiga I would think. Haven't a clue about the SWB in the middle :D

#9 Scuderia SSS

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Posted 07 May 2006 - 09:36

Is the SWB Clive Beechams 250 GT SWB Berlinetta Competizione s/n 2735GT.

#10 David Beard

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Posted 07 May 2006 - 10:44

Originally posted by RTH
.........and these ?


The last one looks like a hotted up Ford Anglia to me....

#11 RTH

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Posted 07 May 2006 - 15:37

Well done everybody Tiga GC286/Rover 3 litre V64V

Ferrari photographed at Silverstone in 1990 in amongst Brocket's collection of cars iIdo not know who owns it now

Broadspeed lookalike for a Paris customer

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#12 RTH

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Posted 07 May 2006 - 16:01

.............these ?

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#13 Alan Cox

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Posted 07 May 2006 - 16:29

Second one is a Riley 1 1/2litre or 2 1/2 litre RME (the one with the cloth roof)

#14 RTH

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Posted 07 May 2006 - 16:33

Originally posted by Alan Cox
Second one is a Riley 1 1/2litre or 2 1/2 litre RME (the one with the cloth roof)


Very impressive Alan! - it was a 1 1/2 litre

#15 Tim Murray

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Posted 07 May 2006 - 17:16

The third one looks like a Maserati Quattroporte to me.

#16 RTH

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Posted 07 May 2006 - 17:54

Quite right Tim, ........... (these must be too easy ! )

#17 Scuderia SSS

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Posted 07 May 2006 - 18:19

Originally posted by Tim Murray
Lotus 18?

Good man :)
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#18 HistoricMustang

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Posted 07 May 2006 - 22:07

I could use some help on this one driven by Speedy Morlock.

Henry

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#19 ian senior

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Posted 08 May 2006 - 08:01

The first car in post 12 - GRD 372?

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#20 David Lawson

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Posted 08 May 2006 - 08:33

I took this photograph yesterday which might give a clue to which car it is.

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#21 RTH

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Posted 08 May 2006 - 09:40

Close enough Ian it was a formula Atlantic version based on a GRD 272 in a batch exported to Indonesia (so maybe that should be Pacific )

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#22 RTH

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Posted 08 May 2006 - 10:01

Hopefully these might be a little harder ?

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#23 Mallory Dan

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Posted 08 May 2006 - 10:30

The middle one is a TF3 I think, Richard, Chevron B47 maybe, tho' my techy knowldge is v poor as you know!

#24 ian senior

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Posted 08 May 2006 - 10:33

Originally posted by Mallory Dan
The middle one is a TF3 I think, Richard, Chevron B47 maybe, tho' my techy knowldge is v poor as you know!


Hmm, not sure about the sidepods, which look a bit March-ish to me.

Bit of a travesty to put Woolfrace wheels on the Quattroporte.

#25 David Beard

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Posted 08 May 2006 - 11:44

Originally posted by David Lawson
I took this photograph yesterday which might give a clue to which car it is.

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Monza Lister, I reckon...

#26 RTH

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Posted 08 May 2006 - 14:22

Originally posted by ian senior


Hmm, not sure about the sidepods, which look a bit March-ish to me.

Bit of a travesty to put Woolfrace wheels on the Quattroporte.


You are both on the right track and yes the sidepods were an add on which when they were removed improved the look and made no difference to the performance.

No it's not a Chevron or a March but it is a mid seventies F3 with a 2 litre Toyota

#27 ian senior

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Posted 08 May 2006 - 14:49

Originally posted by RTH


You are both on the right track and yes the sidepods were an add on which when they were removed improved the look and made no difference to the performance.

No it's not a Chevron or a March but it is a mid seventies F3 with a 2 litre Toyota


Tony Broster's Chevron B43, by any chance?

#28 RTH

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Posted 08 May 2006 - 15:29

No it's not a Chevron.

#29 Mallory Dan

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Posted 08 May 2006 - 15:55

Originally posted by RTH


You are both on the right track and yes the sidepods were an add on which when they were removed improved the look and made no difference to the performance.

No it's not a Chevron or a March but it is a mid seventies F3 with a 2 litre Toyota


That narrows it down Richard, Safir maybe, as I don't think its a Ralt or Argo?

#30 petefenelon

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Posted 08 May 2006 - 15:59

I'm getting vague Lola vibes - looks a bit like a T570 but I'm not sure all the bodywork's original...

#31 RTH

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Posted 08 May 2006 - 17:02

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#32 David Lawson

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Posted 08 May 2006 - 17:41

Originally posted by David Beard


Monza Lister, I reckon...



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Correct

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#33 petefenelon

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Posted 08 May 2006 - 18:04

Originally posted by RTH
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So what model of Lola was it?;)

#34 philippe charuest

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Posted 08 May 2006 - 18:38

the t450-470 series more common in atlantic and super vee i thinq that there was some in formule renault europe too

#35 RTH

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Posted 09 May 2006 - 10:24

Early post war Slough built RHD white Citroen Traction Avant light 15. I took the car this day in 1989 to a stills photo shoot for a fashion catalogue for Daks range Simpsons of London all day outside Kings College Cambridge.

Lola T470 F3 unsurpising this wasn't immediately spotted very few were made in 1976 , side pods not original - looked home made in flimsy aluminium sheet and discarded

1930 Austin Seven Ulster with continuous 60 year racing history

#36 petefenelon

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Posted 09 May 2006 - 10:28

Originally posted by RTH

Lola T470 F3 unsurpising this wasn't immediately spotted very few were made in 1976 , side pods not original - looked home made in flimsy aluminium sheet and discarded


The pods look like a copy of the ones that appeared on March 793s:

link to grainy pic on marchives.com

#37 RTH

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Posted 09 May 2006 - 10:40

Try these then ........

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#38 TFBundy

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Posted 09 May 2006 - 11:02

I'll try an Elva-Formula-Junior and a Formula-Vauxhall-Junior

#39 RTH

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Posted 09 May 2006 - 12:27

Originally posted by TFBundy
I'll try an Elva-Formula-Junior and a Formula-Vauxhall-Junior


wrong and right .

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#40 Mallory Dan

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Posted 09 May 2006 - 13:23

Richard, that T470 pic, is it current or an old photo? I can only recall 1 T470 out over here, v early in 1976, Patrick Bardinon perhaps. If its more recent, has the car ever been used in TF3/ClassicF3 do you know?

#41 Peter Morley

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Posted 09 May 2006 - 15:43

Originally posted by RTH


wrong and right .


Is the 1st one a Lola Mark 2?

#42 RTH

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Posted 09 May 2006 - 15:49

Originally posted by Mallory Dan
Richard, that T470 pic, is it current or an old photo? I can only recall 1 T470 out over here, v early in 1976, Patrick Bardinon perhaps. If its more recent, has the car ever been used in TF3/ClassicF3 do you know?


Last time I saw the car was about 1990 then there was a divorce and I believe the car had to be sold as a result. In the late eighties it was an infrequent runner in TF3, when that was a stand alone series, not a front runner.

#43 RTH

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Posted 09 May 2006 - 15:53

Originally posted by Peter Morley


Is the 1st one a Lola Mark 2?


Yes it is Peter , well spotted !

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Both juniors 30 years apart.
Lola Mk2 Formula Junior early sixties front engined 1100 cc pre-crossflow Ford pushrod with a Sprite gearbox,multi-chassis/engine formula.

Formula Vauxhall Junior from 1995 Van Diemen car with sealed 8 valve 1600cc engine from an Astra with a Hewland LD in the back. Everyone of course had the same car. Unsurprisingly no one ever cares about old one-make single seaters.

#44 Peter Morley

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Posted 10 May 2006 - 07:55

Originally posted by RTH


Yes it is Peter , well spotted !


Yellow chassis frame was a clue.
Cooper wheels were a distraction until I remembered something about Lola using Cooper wheels with the drums taken off (was that just the Mark 1?)...

Didn't some Mark 2 Juniors have BMC engines rather than Ford?
I believe one had a twin-cam Climax engine (not an FPF but an FW with special head) but that ran as an F2 car.

#45 RTH

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Posted 10 May 2006 - 08:02

That all seems quite likely Peter.

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Posted 10 May 2006 - 09:16

Regarding the F3 Lola. The Greek driver Georgs Aposkitis raced one in, I think, 1976. He bought the car new, but it turned out to have a number of "previously enjoyed" components on it!

#47 RTH

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Posted 10 May 2006 - 10:32

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Posted 10 May 2006 - 11:37

The lower pic looks like a late RT3/Novamotor Toyota with pushrod front suspension, and a flat bottom conversion. Is the top one a March 732 or 73B?

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Posted 10 May 2006 - 12:19

There appears to be an injection system behind the inlet scoop on the right hand side, so I'd vote for 732.

IIRC, the RALT RT3 retained the box-section engine bearer 'horns' or sponsons with pushrod front suspension only in 1984, which was the last season of ground effect tunnels. Thus, the flat bottom mod would be a later addition - from the 1985 RT30 and on, the engine bay was flanked by tubular A-frames instead (no deep sidepods to shroud the original 'horns', which I suspect would have been a stiffer installation).

#50 RTH

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Posted 10 May 2006 - 12:23

Dead right on both counts Alan. and Bonde yes an RT3/84 Toyota with the Intersport flat bottom side pods, and a March 732.

I shall have to give up you blokes are too good !