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#151 Bjorn Kjer

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Posted 07 April 2007 - 07:22

:wave: Thanks guys for infos on Bridges/Red Rose !

Team Manager Fred King/Chief Mechanic Fred Campbell from wich team ? (possinly early F5000 years). Any bells ring ? Their names is on a dark Ford D600 transporter.

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#152 Bjorn Kjer

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Posted 28 April 2007 - 09:18

:wave: Well, well , I seem to be able continiously to put up difficult questions ?

How about this one :

Who was Cornwall Garage & Eng. Co. Ltd. ? (early 50s)

#153 Bjorn Kjer

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Posted 30 April 2007 - 06:03

Before doing a new thread I try this one , its not a Who , but a When :

Its definitely Nurburgring !

Jochen Rindt is there .

Centro Suds transporter is there
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Shelby/Alan Mann transporter is there.

When or wich race?????????????????????????????????????????????????????????????? :confused:

#154 Bjorn Kjer

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Posted 30 April 2007 - 17:20

:wave: No response yet , so I will give you all my thoughts/facts :

I am quite sure its Nurburgring (a hinch of doubt)
The Centro Sud and Shelby/Mann transporter is there.
Jochen Rindt is in a suit with tie , scratching his head.

From this It cant be 63 because the Shelby/Mann car was not in use.
It cant be 66 , because the Shelby/Mann car was not in use anymore.
Left is 64 or 65.
Rindt was at the following races :
In 64 Eifelrennen the 2 transporters has nothing to do with F2

Leaves the 1000 kms for 64
In 65 it could be the 1000 kms or the DGP

In the DGP , what would the Shelby/Mann transporter do. Running for Lotus ?

And in the 64 & 65 1000kms races I cannot find that Centro Sud was there ?

So , guys , comments please !!!

#155 Barry Boor

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Posted 30 April 2007 - 19:09

Perhaps if we saw the picture......

#156 Bjorn Kjer

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Posted 01 May 2007 - 05:16

Problem , Barry , is , besides me not being able to post pics, I cant remmember where I found it , and its only 1"x1" !

#157 Bjorn Kjer

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Posted 08 May 2007 - 06:52

:wave: Here is my small compilation (I do not have a big one) on Maurice Charles :

Cardiff motor trader and business man

One of the first Van-hire operations in Wales

Had and raced Jaguar D and E ( twice at Le Mans 58 and 62)

Also raced hillclimd in UK

Had a Cooper Climax F2

Lend a helmet , never returned! Pictures of him ?

LM62 pictures on www.classicjaguarminiatures.com (as well as other great jag pics!)

Blue 1 and a half bus transporter ?

D type also driven by Clark and Scott-Brown (?)

Late 60/early 70 raced a GT40

not much , anymore help ?

Latest question :

In the book Goodwwod ,a private view by cyril and Robin Read ,is a pic from 18/9 1948 also showng back end of a bus transporter where is to be seen : MAURICE ? Charles?
FORD
SINGE ? R?
JAG ? uar?

CAR ? diff?

Reg.nr. CA8-9 ?

#158 Bjorn Kjer

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Posted 08 May 2007 - 09:11

:wave: Hi all and Barry , found the pic from earlier.

Go to McKlein images , Racing 1965 page 5 image 18290

#159 Bjorn Kjer

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Posted 13 May 2007 - 07:17

:wave: I have seen a picture from the Spanissh GP 1954 of Lancia no.36. Behind is 2 horizontal hals of transporters also seen. One is Ecosse (sports car race) the other a Thames boxed with the usual ads on ,SU Carbs, Shell (from that time),the British based team were early with ads on transporters. On the door it says : ?????
Maintained
MOTORWORK (in a curved manner)
Chalfont
Ltd.

From the entry list I would go for Bira or Schell , what say you ?????

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#160 David McKinney

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Posted 13 May 2007 - 09:52

"Chalfont" suggests Peter Whitehead (whose Cooper-Jaguar was in the sportscar race)

#161 Bjorn Kjer

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Posted 13 May 2007 - 19:37

Thanks David .

Here is a new one : 1952 Int. Trophy Silverstone 10.May

Toni Ulmen is there with a nice outfit : Opel Kapitan , 2wheel open trailer and the Veritas No. 39

Besides him is parked a LandRover with 2 wheel coled trailer ,and open F2 sticking tail out No. 39

Looking in the black books its Ulmen who is 39 ! then , who is the other ?

You dont see much of "the other" back the back end is very pointed , its looks newly painted
(between black and white and the no.29 is on a white cirkle!).

Any ideas ? Picture is from Simon Lewis Books (copyright)

#162 Bjorn Kjer

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Posted 14 May 2007 - 17:53

:wave: Can someone please tell a bit about Chris Kerrison ,a british driver ? Born ,start ,finished racing, still around ,from where ?

#163 Bjorn Kjer

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Posted 15 May 2007 - 13:32

Regarding post 161 : I have seen it more than once in pictures. Can anyone give me a logic question and solution to why there are different cars , but same race numbers ?

Regarding post 162 : CK was british I found , but nothing else ! Over to you ?

#164 Bjorn Kjer

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Posted 16 May 2007 - 22:08

:wave: Just fell over a site , didnt hurt , with a lot of interesting themes and biographies. Some of those I have asked about also , have look :

www.historicracing.com

#165 Bjorn Kjer

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Posted 18 May 2007 - 06:01

:wave: Post 161 has just been solved on the Veritas thread !!

#166 Alan Cox

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Posted 25 June 2007 - 20:53

Originally posted by sharman
Sports Motors Manchester, this was a Garage in the city centre started, if I remember correctly, by two men named Graveley and Bloor. Rodney Bloor, the son of one the founderswas an extremely effective driver of, to start with, an A35. From there he had an Elite and after that a 23. One of the features of early saloon car racing at Oulton in particular were the closely fought duels between Rod and Harry Ratcliffe (Minor 1000) who was a textile engineer from Littleborough and was involved with Jeff Goodwin. Harry went on to be part of British Vita Racing. Sports Motors preparation whiz was Denis Wolstenholme
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Some of you may be interested to know that Rodney has returned to racing in historic Formula Ford.

#167 Bjorn Kjer

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Posted 10 July 2007 - 06:15

:wave: On the transporter thread was a paddock shot from presumably Nurburgring in 38 or 39.

"fyrth" was kind enough to identify Bellevue racing as the Evans family of Bellevue Garage of Wandsworth , South London (post 729 transporter). Does anyone know more about this familys racing activities (4W?) ?

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Posted 10 July 2007 - 09:30

The Evans family - Kenneth, Denis and their sister Doreen - were leading Brooklands figures in the 1930s, primarily with MGs. After MG scaled down their racing involvement, so did the Evanses, although Kenneth continued to run his old Alfa Romeo tipo B in the odd race. In addition to their main operation in Wandsworth, Bellevue also maintained a garage at Brooklands itself. As fyrth mentioned, their top mechanic was "Wilkie" Wilkinson who was one of the most respected Brooklands tuners and went on to further success with Aston Martin and BRM.

Denis was the elder brother and originally raced a Chrysler and Bugatti before the family team started running MGs: Midgets and Magnettes of various sorts. Doreen started in trials before taking up racing, at which she was one of the most successful lady competitors - she also held the ladies' record at Shelsley Walsh at one time. She married Allan Phipps in 1936 and moved to the USA.

http://forums.autosp...618#post2420618

Post-war, Kenneth was Chief Flag Marshal for the BRDC at Silverstone - he's usually the chap waving the chequered flag at British GPs and other important meetings.

I hadn't seen these pictures before, but they're fairly easy to ID: this is not the Nürburgring, but Bremgarten - in fact from the 1939 Swiss GP. That was Kenneth's only trip abroad in 1939. The nearest Mercedes Benz is Hartmann's #12, #10 is von Brauchitsch's car and the furthest looks to be Lang's #16.

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This one isn't the Nürburgring either - it's Donington Park in 1938: #8 is Seaman's car and #5 is Bäumer's.

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#169 Bjorn Kjer

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Posted 14 July 2007 - 05:35

:wave: Thanks Vitesse 2 , highly interesting , I also found a bit on MG sites. When I discover a "new" transporter , a small team history "belongs" to I think. As usual from those days pictures are very sharp ,would you guess some kind of light or medium green colour ?

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Posted 14 July 2007 - 08:54

Wasn't her R type MG a very pale blue, similar to the colour later used by Rivers Fletcher? or am I mistaken?

Roger Lund.

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Posted 16 July 2007 - 18:35

Originally posted by bradbury west
Wasn't her R type MG a very pale blue, similar to the colour later used by Rivers Fletcher? or am I mistaken?

Roger Lund.


I tought the Belle Vue colours were predominantly light blue
There's an ex-team R-Type in those colours today

#172 Bjorn Kjer

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Posted 16 July 2007 - 18:45

:wave: well ,well , united we....I have been a bit around on the net finding something on the Evans MG on www.historicsportscar.com only b/w , but also a restored blue one in colour! Also on the same site ? ,or at least searching Bellevue Garage ,found a restored building in colour ,the door being white with red/brown text "Bellevue Garage on www.flickr.mud.yahoo.com

Thanks all ,very interesting addition to my transporter history.

#173 Bjorn Kjer

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Posted 23 July 2007 - 05:56

:wave: Chaseside Motor Co. Ltd. A team or a garage (too ?) I have found nothing so far, any help ?
Post 1142 on transporter thread for picture .

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Posted 08 August 2007 - 08:07

Originally posted by Bjørn Kjer
I am seeking infos on Andres Chardonnet

Try this about André Chardonnet (1923 - 2005).

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Posted 08 August 2007 - 10:19

I think Chaseside was part of Jonathan Sieff's uperation, I chap I know who worked for them tells of having to rush off to France with two V12 Maser engines stuffed into the boot and back seat of his company car.

#176 Bjorn Kjer

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Posted 09 August 2007 - 13:43

Thanks to ReWind and Sharman.

I just read that Son, Sebastian Chardonnet is racing Formula Renault and according to his mentor has Champion qualities ! The mentor ? J.P.Jarier !


PS! I do not read French , but knowing a bit and guessing and reading years and names , nearly gets it together!

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Posted 09 August 2007 - 13:57

Bjørn, I would imagine that Sebastian should be rather André's grandson. Can anybody confirm or deny ?

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Posted 10 August 2007 - 00:11

Yes, his webpage says he is "... le petit fils ...", i.e. the grandson:

http://www.sebastien...l/Portrait.htm#

#179 Bjorn Kjer

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Posted 13 August 2007 - 11:20

:wave: Thanks for the latest infos !

In the book Grand Prix Racing by Monkhouse and King-Farlow , page 169 , is a picture showing an Alfa getting on or off a Ferrari Transporter in 1936 . In the background I can see a bit of another transporter with the text in what looks like white letters , big ones , and here is my guess to the nbame :

BYFLEET CARS Ltd. Any clues if this could be right ?

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#180 Vitesse2

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Posted 13 August 2007 - 11:49

Not Byfleet Cars, but Byfleet Motors, Bjørn.

Run by Charlie Martin and then at Manor Works, Byfleet.

There's still a Byfleet Motors today, at 160 High Road, Byfleet. No idea if it's the same company though.

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Posted 13 August 2007 - 13:41

Oh, and the picture must have been taken at the 1936 Eifelrennen: the Alfa is Brivio's 12C-36.

#182 Bjorn Kjer

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Posted 13 August 2007 - 13:59

At least it cant be before , because then the Ferrari team did not have the transporter shown in my picture,
the big yeloow one of NAG Bussing origin ! Thanks Vitesse2 !

Being at it now , any good suggestions on books for the period 34-40 and 45-49/50/51 ???

#183 Bjorn Kjer

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Posted 03 September 2007 - 06:36

Hi, before plunging into a lot of new threads , I try here first. Recently I have done some search on the years
1934-1940 and 1945 to 1950 . I have found some infos on the TNF regarding some of the teams like Scuderia Torino and Subalpina and Ambrosiana . Now I look for : Gruppo San Giorgi , Scuderia Siena , Scuderia Maremanna, Gruppo Volta di Como ,Scuderia Subauda , Scuderia Brianza ! Anyone know who was behind these teams or other infos ? I have infos on drivers from Kolumbus Snellman , but perhaps you know of something or to threads I have not found.?

One other question besides these Italians , Dick Seaman before his Mercedes drives had his own transporter , any chance to find a picture of that ?

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Posted 12 September 2007 - 14:15

Did any of you ever hear of OLEX petrol/oil in the 20es and 30es ?? Can you tell me how long it was around etc. ??

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Posted 28 September 2007 - 20:10

Who was Peter Mitchell-Thomson ? Few infos or hints to search , please !

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Posted 28 September 2007 - 20:42

He became Lord Selsdon on the death of his father in 1938.

Although most writers seem to think his name was Peter, he was actually called Patrick Mitchell-Thomson. Perhaps he preferred to be known as Peter?

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Posted 28 September 2007 - 20:54

Originally posted by Vitesse2
Perhaps he preferred to be known as Peter?

I believe that is so

#188 KJJ

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Posted 28 September 2007 - 21:45

Originally posted by Bjørn Kjer
Did any of you ever hear of OLEX petrol/oil in the 20es and 30es ?? Can you tell me how long it was around etc. ??


Bjørn - Olex seems to have been the German subsidiary of the Anglo-Persian Oil Company, there's an article about the company in the German version of Wikipedia here. I know you can read this although I can't.

#189 Bjorn Kjer

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Posted 29 September 2007 - 07:17

Thanks Vitesse , the winner of LM49 then! I also have been told that he had an (S)TD being lent to Ecurie France for the EU (Belgian) GP in 1947 . Other racing connections in the period ?


Thanks KJJ , forgot to mention that I had the same q on Supply and sponsor vehicles thread where r.atlos
also answered. But now I have a good story on Olex ! Perhaps I should try Wikipedia more often !

#190 David McKinney

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Posted 29 September 2007 - 08:13

Originally posted by Bjørn Kjer
Other racing connections in the period ?


British events with Frazer Nash before succeeding to title, after which:
1939 Le Mans: 4ov with Lord Waleran in Lagonda
1948 Paris 12hrs: 1ov with Chinetti in Ferrari
1949 Le Mans: 1ov with Chinetti in Ferrari
1950 LeMans: DNF with Lucas in Ferrari

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Posted 29 September 2007 - 08:47

Patrick Mitchell-Thomson, preferred to be called Peter. Came from a Scottish shipping family, raced a Frazer Nash chain gang and commissioned the first single seater Frazer Nash the company built. Photo here shows him left at the pits in the start of the Tourist Trophy on the old Ards circuit before the war. The other key events have already been mentioned. He spent most of the family fortune on his racing but after the war was a director of HRG.

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#192 Bjorn Kjer

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Posted 02 October 2007 - 06:24

Thanks to David and Graham , I have not looked that much at sportscar racing then , where Selsdon seemed to to do his succesfull exploits. Its all adding up !

#193 Bjorn Kjer

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Posted 16 December 2007 - 07:39

:wave: Recently I found a name in connection with Le Mans 1959 : Team Beaver ! Anyone know about them . Entry list do not use that name , could it be the Team name of one of the entrants from Britain ?

Also a name with connection to F2 in 1958 : Bradstock Motors Ltd. Any infos on them ?

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Posted 15 January 2008 - 15:08

When Dick Protheroe sold his CUT 7 chassis 860004 I am told there was an adv. in Autosport with his transporter too ! Has any of you seen that adv. and if , please scan it for me ???

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Posted 16 January 2008 - 07:21

:wave: The name Radio London team with Keith St. John in F3 1965 recently popped up in my head . Any extra infos on who they were ? Only Keith as driver ?

#196 Barry Boor

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Posted 16 January 2008 - 09:03

Try searching TNF for that one, Bjørn, I'm sure it has been discussed before.

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Posted 16 January 2008 - 09:19

Sure has :) Try typing 'Radio London Racing' in the search box and you will find 22 threads!

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Posted 16 January 2008 - 09:38

Bradstock Motors must have something to do with Bertie Bradstock

#199 Bjorn Kjer

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Posted 16 January 2008 - 10:15

:wave: Thanks for loosening my brain , I did search for Radio London Team and got 40 pages .......! But a
search for "Racing" (Rob29) got nothing ,however Keith and just" Radio London" got a couple , enough to search , I did not realize Radio London was a pirate radio....so I know the search quite well , there could be more !

Sharman : I know that name , Bertie is nick for Bertram ? But nothing yet found , thanks too! :smoking:

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Posted 16 January 2008 - 12:39

Originally posted by Bjørn Kjer
Sharman : I know that name , Bertie is nick for Bertram ? But nothing yet found , thanks too! :smoking:

Bjorn, try also Albert (I don't know the guy in question, but Albert was more popular than Bertram)