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#201 Bjorn Kjer

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Posted 17 January 2008 - 15:35

Found something on Radio London(Keith St,John) outside TNF , but nothing on BRADSTOCK or Team Beaver.

I may have mislead my q. on Protheroe : Facts would be when he sold the leightweight CUT7 in 65 (to Wansborough ?) it was advertised in an Autosport issue with a poor picture of Dick transporter too ! Will someone please have a look if they have Autosport from 65. I found out it should be in januar or februar 65.
At least it was SOLD in februar ! Please ?

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#202 Sharman

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Posted 17 January 2008 - 16:45

Bjorn
C'est les annees, the name I was thinking of was Bradnack, Bertie Bradnack. Sorry for a red herring
John

#203 Bjorn Kjer

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Posted 17 January 2008 - 16:49

:wave: Thats ok , it was fun trying !

#204 Bjorn Kjer

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Posted 18 January 2008 - 08:36

It is 1954 0r 55 , it is Nurburgring German F1 GP , there are a lot of cars and transporters like Rosier- Gordini - Ferrari etc. , but one transporter - a big van (or furniture transporter) has a name on the side wich looks like
: BURAND ! Anyone ever heard that name ?????????

#205 Jean L

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Posted 18 January 2008 - 09:22

Burano ?
in the movie"The Racers" ?

#206 Rob29

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Posted 18 January 2008 - 09:28

Originally posted by Bjørn Kjer
It is 1954 0r 55 , it is Nurburgring German F1 GP , there are a lot of cars and transporters like Rosier- Gordini - Ferrari etc. , but one transporter - a big van (or furniture transporter) has a name on the side wich looks like
: BURAND ! Anyone ever heard that name ?????????

No German GP in '55.So '54 possible-but I always thought 'Racers' movie was made in '52 as it includes scenes at the Monaco sports car GP.

#207 Jean L

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Posted 18 January 2008 - 09:46

1954
"Director Henry Hathaway invaded Europe in the spring of 1954 with a camera crew and 12 Cinemascope lenses,spent the racing season haunting the roads and tracks of the continent,and exposed 90,000 feet of Eastman color film at the classic Grand Prix and sports car events." :eek:

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Posted 18 January 2008 - 09:53

Originally posted by Jean L
1954
"Director Henry Hathaway invaded Europe in the spring of 1954 with a camera crew and 12 Cinemascope lenses,spent the racing season haunting the roads and tracks of the continent,and exposed 90,000 feet of Eastman color film at the classic Grand Prix and sports car events." :eek:

Interesting.How did they film Monaco which was not held in 53 or 54?

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Posted 18 January 2008 - 15:25

90,000 feet? That's a lot of footage, if my old rule-of-thumb method isn't all out of line that would translate to more than eight hours - where are those, please??? :cat:

#210 Bjorn Kjer

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Posted 18 January 2008 - 15:58

Post 204 dear Michael , thats my question !

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Posted 18 January 2008 - 17:15

:lol: Yes I know, my dear Bjørn, but I don't have an answer. Burano and Durand make sense, but I've never heard or read Burand... :confused:

#212 Bjorn Kjer

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Posted 18 January 2008 - 18:02

OK , I just thought you living in Germany could help , but admit it sounds more Italian (a drink) ? Thanks for trying!

#213 Bjorn Kjer

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Posted 17 February 2008 - 13:16

:wave: Will some of you please help with ANYTHING on the Murkett Brothers ? :smoking:

#214 Bjorn Kjer

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Posted 21 February 2008 - 08:28

:wave: The TNF continue to amaze , but also surprize ! Sometimes it pours with infos , other time none at all. I tend to believe that sometimes its a question of keeping a thread in the "top" to get contributors to note ?
I do not know my own racing backyard too well , and I know the UK and others are many times bigger than mine , but you are also many more people who knows , so I try again : No infos on Murkett Bros. and their Jag D ? (or other earlier unanswered ?)

Come to think of it this thread which never was intended to be "mine" is not to be found doing normal Search BB so I will ask TWINNY :smoking: what to do to get the right "title" ????????????????????

#215 David McKinney

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Posted 21 February 2008 - 10:33

Originally posted by Bjørn Kjer
No infos on Murkett Bros. and their Jag D ? (or other earlier unanswered ?)

Apparently not

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Posted 21 February 2008 - 10:38

You spoke about five minutes too soon, David :lol:

Murkett being an unusual name, a search of The Times Online Archive brought up a motor dealer called Murkett Brothers - initially in Bedford and Huntingdon.

In the 1920s they sold Rovers and Buicks.

In the mid-30s they were Vauxhall dealers.

In April 1944 they were selling a Rolls-Royce Park Ward 7-seater limousine and in January 1945 the company advertised an assortment of mostly 1939 saloons - Rovers, Austins, Humbers - for sale. 1946 saw a small ad for three assorted R-Rs and Bentleys.

They started more regular advertising in The Times in 1958 and according to a 1964 advert they had been in business since 1888. Up till 1964 they advertised exclusively Bentleys and the occasional Rolls-Royce from various addresses, sometimes calling themselves "Rolls-Royce and Bentley Special Retailers", which appears to be a level below official distributor..

1958: 3 High St - also at Huntingdon, Peterborough, Cambridge and March.

1959: Huntingdon Rd, Cambridge.

1961: Barkers Lane, Bedford. Still at Huntingdon, Peterborough, Cambridge and March, with an additional branch at Kings Lynn.

1963: Barkers Lane. At this point, they also started advertising Rovers and Jaguars, still as "Rolls-Royce and Bentley Special Retailers" and also as Rover and Jaguar dealers.

By 1968 they were featuring in Rolls-Royce adverts as official R-R dealers.

All this is a long way from a court report from October 1942 though. Sir William Prescott, a former chairman of the Metropolitan Water Board pleaded guilty to supplying or acquiring petrol without coupons and was fined the then substantial sum of £500. There were no fewer than sixteen other defendants in the case, among them three "motor engineers": 66-year-old Harry Samuel Murkett of Huntingdon (18 months imprisonment, £500 and costs), 64-year-old Alfred Murkett of Bedford (15 months, £500 and costs) and William Denis Murkett of Huntingdon (9 months, £500 and costs). In view of their ages, Harry and Alfred are presumably the original brothers of the company name.

In his judgement, Mr Justice Humphreys said that the Murketts and William Kirby (who looks to have been one of their employees and got 2 years, £250 and costs) "were engaged in a long series of transactions in complete and absolute defiance of all regulations made for the control of petrol. They had allocated to themselves the right to do precisely what the Government, with the approval of Parliament, had declared should not be done, and they had done it with their eyes open and for gain."

#217 Bjorn Kjer

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Posted 21 February 2008 - 11:28

:wave: Thanks Vitesse2 , I will be back ! :smoking:

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Posted 21 February 2008 - 12:39

Originally posted by Vitesse2
All this is a long way from a court report from October 1942 though. Sir William Prescott, a former chairman of the Metropolitan Water Board pleaded guilty to supplying or acquiring petrol without coupons and was fined the then substantial sum of £500. There were no fewer than sixteen other defendants in the case, among them three "motor engineers": 66-year-old Harry Samuel Murkett of Huntingdon (18 months imprisonment, £500 and costs), 64-year-old Alfred Murkett of Bedford (15 months, £500 and costs) and William Denis Murkett of Huntingdon (9 months, £500 and costs). In view of their ages, Harry and Alfred are presumably the original brothers of the company name.


The 1901 census shows Harry, Alfred and brother Ernest as "Cycle Makers", living at 51 High Street, Huntingdon. Their widowed mother seems to have owned the company "Cycle manufacturer, Employer".

In the 1881 census, their father was a "Bellhanger".

1898 Directory
Murkett Bros, Cycle Agents, 22 High St, Huntingdon

1903 Directory
Murkett Brothers, cycle and motor car manufacturers & athletic outfitters & agents for all the leading makers, St Mary's cycle and motor works, High Street, Huntingdon.

1910 Directory
Murkett Brothers, cycle and motor car manufacturers & athletic outfitters & agents for all the leading makers, gramophones etc, St Mary's cycle and motor works, 51 High Street, Huntingdon.

1914 Directory
Murkett Brothers, cycle and motor car manufacturers & athletic outfitters & agents for all the leading makers, St Mary's cycle and motor works, Market Square, Huntingdon.

More info here- http://tinyurl.com/ywjby

and http://www.murkettsmini.co.uk/

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Posted 04 March 2008 - 09:14

[QUOTE]Originally posted by ReWind
[B]@Bjørn: Maybe you can still contact Dick Protheroe's son via this site
(although is hasn't been developed for more than two years now).

A revamp of the site to take place this year with more photos and info.

Geoff Protheroe (son of)

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#220 Bjorn Kjer

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Posted 04 March 2008 - 10:23

:wave: That then must be the reason for no replyes ! :smoking:

#221 Bjorn Kjer

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Posted 27 March 2008 - 20:48

:wave: On www.tomfarrington , Klaus Bythiner pictures , the entrance to the Nurburgring 1960 picture : On the left are 2 transporters , any help id'ing these cars , teams ? Or the cars loaded on them ? Anything ?

#222 Charles Helps

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Posted 28 March 2008 - 11:39

Do you mean in this photo, Bjørn ? Your original link gave a '404 Server not found' error. Sorry, I can't help with identification.

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Posted 28 March 2008 - 11:51

Originally posted by Charles Helps
Your original link gave a '404 Server not found' error

...because he left the ".com" off :)

#224 Bjorn Kjer

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Posted 28 March 2008 - 12:57

:wave: Yes Charles , that photo ! On the right is a lightcoloured frontengined sportscar ans on the left is a proto GT bottom and a normal GT , MG ? on top ? Or numberplate ?

And yes David , I left out the "com" , I seldom have to use that my self , also seldom www. or http , sorry for not writing it in full !

#225 David McKinney

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Posted 28 March 2008 - 15:39

A few small problems with that approach, Bjørn
Yes, you can omit http and www and people will work out what it is
But if you do put www in front of the name - as you did on your earlier post - it will be converted to a hyperlink in the post, and people in a hurry will just click on that and get a '404'
Dropping .com off the end might have saved you a second or two, but it frustrates other users. Should the suffix be .com, .co.uk, .org.au, .gov.ca or something else?

No biggy...

#226 Bjorn Kjer

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Posted 29 March 2008 - 06:14

:wave: OK , I see your point , I'll do better in the future !

Please have a go at : www.tomfarrington.com

Click Klaus Bythiner

Then click the Nurburgring 1960 thumbnail (3rd to last)

Have a look and try to recognize anything on the cars or numberplate ???

#227 Bjorn Kjer

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Posted 26 April 2008 - 16:47

:wave: Time at times solves problems , please have a look at posts 173/175/183/193 and 194 , any news ?

#228 Bjorn Kjer

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Posted 25 May 2008 - 18:38

:wave: Just wanted to say this thread is still for anyone to use ! It has changed name from "Who was this" due to "our" ppsearch . It has brought me a lot thanks ! So dont hesitate to use use it ! :smoking:

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Posted 06 July 2008 - 09:18

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#230 Bjorn Kjer

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Posted 06 July 2008 - 09:59

First picture Nurburgring when ? See Cooper and Maserati transporter as well as von Trips in Porsche .When and what race ?

Second picture Nurburgring 1960 : Any ID on any of the cars ? Top of transporter ? :smoking:

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Posted 06 July 2008 - 10:30

The only occasion I can think of when the Cooper and Maserati factories were both at the Nürburgring was for the Rhineland Cup support race for 1956 German GP

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Posted 06 July 2008 - 11:08

:wave: Thanks David , you must be right , the race was for the German sportscar championship with a fine entry and an interesting result: Porsche,Maserati,CooperPorsche,Porsche,Maserati , Cooper , von Trips retiring his Porsche.Hermann winning from Moss and Salvadori ! :smoking: check http://wsrp.ic.cz/gerscc1956.html

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Posted 18 October 2008 - 08:46

Harold Young Racing (Harold Young Ltd.) entered a Lola T70 in 1965 for David Hobbs. I cannot find anything about Young or his team. If I remeber right the car was dark blue with a silver stripe. I have 1 picture showing no. 16 from a Silverstone race. Any help ?

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Posted 19 October 2008 - 05:37

Originally posted by Bjørn Kjer
Harold Young Racing (Harold Young Ltd.) entered a Lola T70 in 1965 for David Hobbs. I cannot find anything about Young or his team. If I remeber right the car was dark blue with a silver stripe. I have 1 picture showing no. 16 from a Silverstone race. Any help ?


I saw David Hobbs race the Lola at the 1965 Northwest GP, Pacific Raceways, Kent, Washington. More info here:

http://www.johnstark...rticles_31.html

Apparently, the team also entered a Lotus 23B for Hobbs and Attwood at the 1964 Tourist Trophy.

Vince H.

#235 Bjorn Kjer

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Posted 19 October 2008 - 10:50

Hi Vince , thanks for the link , never saw that site before , good infos !

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Posted 01 January 2009 - 09:57

According to this source a guy called Mike Llewellyn was born on 04 January 1954. I have no idea who he may be.

Is it possible that there is a typo with his year of birth and in fact he is supposed to be the MG racer of the 1950s?
Perhaps that Mike Llewellyn was born on 04 January 1924?

Anyone with hard facts?

#237 David McKinney

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Posted 01 January 2009 - 12:23

ISTR the MG driver was M R G Llewellyn (if that's any help)

#238 Bjorn Kjer

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Posted 07 April 2009 - 17:07

Twinny : This thread cannot be found through the Search BB .(?) I can't.

Does any of you know hwich F2 team in 1964 operated from Wolverhampton ?

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Posted 07 April 2009 - 18:07

MRP (Midland Racing Partnership) were based in Wolverhampton, I believe.

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#240 Bjorn Kjer

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Posted 07 April 2009 - 19:10

Hi Tim , yours appear to be the only answer ? Well never mind , and thanks all the way , you brought me out of my frustration , I checked , and you are right : MRP!

#241 Bjorn Kjer

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Posted 17 June 2009 - 19:34

Having just looked through the Tony Shelly thread I wonder why there is no mention of his entrant John Dalton ?

Was he merely an entrant or also the car owner ? Any infos appriciated here.

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Posted 18 June 2009 - 06:39

Good question, Bjorn, and one I've never had answered
Early reports from the period make no mention of Dalton, whose name appears only later in the season
Certainly Shelly owned the car by the end of the year, when he took it back to NZ with him (with 2.5 engine)

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Posted 18 June 2009 - 09:14

Sargent/Lumsden among other things Lightweight low drag E Type
Dick Protheroe Healey 100S, E Type CUT 7 killed Oulton
Essex Racing Team I think John Ogier also DB4 GT
Border Reivers ask Graham Gauld
Team Elite John Wagstaff David Buxton. I remember an Elite with a 2 litre Climax and F1 suspension
Maurice Charles D Type car also driven by (OTOMY) Archie & Jimmy


Dick Protheroe
More info here.
http://www.myitshere...eroe/dphome.htm
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Posted 05 July 2009 - 18:57

On the Transporter thread , page 23 , post 896 , picture 5 , can anyone please help id ?

The back looks an AH Sprite ?

It is from the Nurburgring 500 kms 1n 1965 from the book Renntransporter by Braun & Storz/Motor Buch Verlag

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Posted 06 July 2009 - 06:06

On the Transporter thread , page 23 , post 896 , picture 5 , can anyone please help id ?

The back looks an AH Sprite ?

It is from the Nurburgring 500 kms 1n 1965 from the book Renntransporter by Braun & Storz/Motor Buch Verlag


It must be the works Austin-Healey Sebring Sprite of Clive Baker-Keith Greene. Ran with race number 2 and finished 6th o/a. Just ahead in the photo seems to be the older Sebring Sprite version of John Moore-John Harris.

#246 Bjorn Kjer

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Posted 06 July 2009 - 07:14

Hi proviz , thanks for that .

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Posted 06 July 2009 - 10:06

John Moore/John Harris.
I knew John Harris quite well in the 60s. He was always known to be well connected with Warwick and turned up in some very potent machinery. I recall him rolling a supercharged Sebring (with a standard bonnet) at a CUAC spriont at Snet. The reason for this post is really to pose a question. David Harris ran a Sebring and injured himself in it at I forget where. He was thereafter forbidden to race by his family, but I have always assumed that John was the same person under another name. Can anybody confirm this?

Edited by Sharman, 06 July 2009 - 10:07.


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Posted 01 September 2009 - 14:44

On the : www.bobgerard.co.uk first page website is a picture of BG. , but behind a bit of a transporter. Anyone know this or has connections to BG Ltd. ?

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Posted 01 September 2009 - 17:26

Having just looked through the Tony Shelly thread I wonder why there is no mention of his entrant John Dalton ?

Was he merely an entrant or also the car owner ? Any infos appriciated here.


This is one I'd like to know more one. Now deceased, but finding out when has proved fruitless. Born Nov 17, 1930 in Belper, Derbyshire & died post 1990...

Car owner/entrant/team boss of Amon I believe along with Chris.



#250 Bjorn Kjer

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Posted 01 September 2009 - 19:34

Did you notice from post 59 is a bit on Dalton on the "How good was Tony Shelly " thread ?