The Brise family in 500cc F3
Posted 19 June 2006 - 15:14
I know Tony and Tim Brise's father was a former world stock car champion of the era, Johnny Brise. Would I be right to assume that's the same chap and that Robert was his brother (thus Tony and Tim's Uncle)?
Posted 19 June 2006 - 16:31
As in the Manchester Ford dealers?
Originally posted by simonlewisbooks
Just found a reference to a Robert W Brise racing at Brands 23 Sept 1951 in a Cooper Jap and in the same race John Brise in a Cooper JAP entered by L A Quick.
Posted 19 June 2006 - 20:26
Posted 20 June 2006 - 12:09
The "Who's Who in 500 cc racing, 1951" lists John Kenneth Bailey Brise and Robert William Brise as both born in Dartford, Kent (1926 & 1916 respectively), and both still there in 1951. So I would assume that they are at least related and probably brothers.
According to my (siginificantly incomplete) records, Bob appeared first in a Cooper (not sure which Mk) at Brands, 21st April 1951. John appears, also in a Cooper (Doug lists Johnny Brise buying Mk V/28/51), by August - as both appeared in the same races, we can assume there were two chassis, and I would hazard that the elder Bob dragged his brother into the sport.
In 1952, John was in an Arnott - I think this was a works drive. But by late summer he was back in a Cooper. In 1953 he started with the Cooper, transferred to the new Martin Special briefly, then reverted to Cooper. Bob, according to my records, dropped out in 1952, only reappearing in a Cooper in June 1953. At which point, both start driving Arnotts! Both were reasonably successful, Johnny apparently slightly more so with a handful of heat wins, but no full race wins that I can recall.
And that's where my 500s knowledge of the brothers Brise ends. I have recollections that one, probably Johnny, also drove an Arnott sports car, perhaps at Le Mans?