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#1 sandy

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Posted 26 June 2006 - 13:47

This thread is for those grainy and often slightly out of focus photos taken many years ago by young photographers with inexpensive cameras that ended up in shoe boxes in the backs of cupboards. Is it time for thPosted Imageem to reappear? Are the typical following examples of interest?

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#2 sandy

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Posted 26 June 2006 - 13:51

A little too large. Is it time for them tPosted Imageo reappear?

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Posted 26 June 2006 - 13:55

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Posted 26 June 2006 - 13:57

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Posted 26 June 2006 - 13:58

Originally posted by sandy

A little too large.

They are really - could you re-size them to 650 pixels width, please?

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Posted 26 June 2006 - 13:58

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Posted 26 June 2006 - 14:00

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Posted 26 June 2006 - 14:04

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#9 Rob29

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Posted 26 June 2006 - 14:07

Now we need captions-? Aintree 1954?

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Posted 26 June 2006 - 14:25

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Posted 26 June 2006 - 14:27

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Posted 26 June 2006 - 14:29

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Posted 26 June 2006 - 14:31

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Posted 26 June 2006 - 14:37

And so on. (Image Shack is something else isn't it; so easy when you get on top of it - but tricky at first - thanks Ray B.)

Were these of interest? If so, any others?

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Posted 26 June 2006 - 18:01

:up: Definitely of interest - carry on posting by all means, thanks!

#16 David McKinney

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Posted 26 June 2006 - 18:51

Originally posted by Rob29
Now we need captions-? Aintree 1954?

Nah, mate. They're all Orstylian


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Terrific stuff - brings a tear to the eye :up: :up:

#17 RTH

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Posted 26 June 2006 - 19:59

Originally posted by sandy
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This MG is interesting, looks to me like a supercharged 1934 NA ?

all nice photos !

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Posted 26 June 2006 - 20:16

Originally posted by RTH


This MG is interesting, looks to me like a supercharged 1934 NA ?

So where would the other two exhausts be then? :p

I'm pretty sure it's a J4 Midget.

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Posted 26 June 2006 - 20:22

Originally posted by sandy
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What's that ? Amazing.

And carry on please, of course. :up:

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#20 RTH

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Posted 26 June 2006 - 21:14

Originally posted by Vitesse2

So where would the other two exhausts be then? :p

I'm pretty sure it's a J4 Midget.


Actually now I look at the way the body slopes away at the rear and the shape of the scuttle, it looks like a Q type.

#21 sandy

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Posted 26 June 2006 - 21:59

That's probably another requirement of any shoebox collection - can't recollect where they were taken. From memory:

* Cooper Climax or Bristol, Albert Park 1956 or 57
* Stirling Moss 250F Albert Park 1956
* Otto Stone's K3 (isn't it?) Fisherman's Bend 1957
* Stan Jones 250F Fisherman's Bend, Melbourne. 1957
* Stan Jones 250F Albert Park 1957 (or 56)
* Jones (certainly)and Bib Stillwell (perhaps) Fisherman's Bend 1957
* Lago Talbot Fisherman's Bend 1957
* Not known - perhaps a Cooper Holden. Fisherman's Bend. 1957
* Alta perhaps. Fisherman's Bend 1957
* Jones 250F Maserati. Fisherman's Bend. 1957
* K3, if that is what it is, again, alongside what may well be a re-bodied K3.

#22 Vitesse2

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Posted 26 June 2006 - 23:18

If it's a K3, it's the only one with a four-pot engine :rolleyes: Which was my point re it not being an NA. Must be a Midget of some description ....

#23 Ray Bell

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Posted 27 June 2006 - 01:41

I suspect that most of these were taken at the 1956 Australian Grand Prix...

That makes the first one the ex-Brabham Cooper Bristol with Reg Smith driving... No 6 is Kevin Neal in the A6GCM... and if it's at the same meeting No 15 is the HWM Jag... but it doesn't look like it. So maybe No 18 isn't the HWM Alta of Tom Clark either? I don't know that car.

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Posted 27 June 2006 - 02:15

Originally posted by Ray Bell
I suspect that most of these were taken at the 1956 Australian Grand Prix...

That makes the first one the ex-Brabham Cooper Bristol with Reg Smith driving... No 6 is Kevin Neal in the A6GCM... and if it's at the same meeting No 15 is the HWM Jag... but it doesn't look like it. So maybe No 18 isn't the HWM Alta of Tom Clark either? I don't know that car.

Ray ,Kevin Neal had a transport yard across the road from my grandmothers home in Alphington ,Melbourne , as a youngster i can remember his cars in the workshops at Alphington......Memories............................. :up:

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Posted 27 June 2006 - 02:55

I might as well get in here. Sandy can perhaps verify. Unlike the northern hemisphere there is not a whole winter to differentiate between years, just a few more of the same steaming hot days.

Absolutely great photos by the way. Thanks for sharing them with us.

Top to bottom regarding the 250F photos.

Stirling Moss in the long nose 2501 at Albert Park December 1956 for the Australian GP.

#6 being pushed in the pits is Stan Jones' 2520 at the Fishermen's Bend Victorian Trophy, 23 February 1958.
This is the only time this car carried the number 6 while in Australia.

#8 is Stan Jones in 2520 again but at Albert Park, either for the Melbourne Races November 24th or for the Grand Prix on 2nd of December, 1956.

The pair are #7 Bib Stillwell in 2516 leading #6 Stan Jones in 2520 at Fishermen's Bend 23 February 1958.

And #6 alone is again Stan Jones in 2520 at Fishermen's Bend 23 February 1958.

Cheers,
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#26 Ray Bell

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Posted 27 June 2006 - 03:11

Again, a lack of familiarity with Fishermens Bend pictures... I thought the fence in the one of Jones looked very Albert Park...

Thanks Barry, nothing like an expert chiming in on these things. And I'm sure you're looking forward to Morrie Maurice's footage of the '55 and '55 Moomba meetings, aren't you? Kevin Neal getting momentarily sideways in one of the sweepers... some nicely polished 250Fs in glorious colour...

That No 18 might well look like the Alta that we know so well today, might it not?

#27 Ray Bell

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Posted 27 June 2006 - 06:30

When it comes to Box Brownie pics, this isn't bad:

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No idea who's in the MG, but the other cars are driven by Stan Jones, Lex Davison and Rex Law.

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Posted 27 June 2006 - 07:56

Originally posted by Ray Bell
When it comes to Box Brownie pics, this isn't bad:

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No idea who's in the MG, but the other cars are driven by Stan Jones, Lex Davison and Rex Law.

Having owned a TC myself it would not have had much of a chance any of those others, whatever they are !

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Posted 27 June 2006 - 08:08

Jones in the Maybach, Davison in his HWM-Jaguar? I know Law had a Buick Special at one time: is that it?

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Posted 27 June 2006 - 08:59

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Posted 27 June 2006 - 09:08

Originally posted by David McKinney

Nah, mate. They're all Orstylian

Sandy,

Terrific stuff - brings a tear to the eye :up: :up:


Sandy....take a bow....brilliant, brilliant fotos :up:

David...repeat after me....Or-stray-lee-anne :rotfl:

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Posted 27 June 2006 - 09:12

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Posted 27 June 2006 - 09:22

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Well, am scraping the bottom of the barrel now with the 555 so here is a non box brownie shot of a Bugatti and that I'm afraid is that.

Can others keep the Brownies coming?

#34 Ray Bell

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Posted 27 June 2006 - 22:32

Originally posted by Vitesse2
Jones in the Maybach, Davison in his HWM-Jaguar? I know Law had a Buick Special at one time: is that it?


Jones in the Maybach, yes...

Then Davo is in the TC Special that was built up from the wreck of Diana's TC that he bent the Stobie Pole at Lobethal with.

I don't know if Law raced the Buick Special more than just the once... at the AGP in '49... he certainly didn't drive it in the supporting event at that meeting. No, this is the Regal with a few later mods. Still bearing a Cadillac V8, however, which would later that night be transferred into the rear end of an International bus for a trip carrying 17 passengers to Sydney.

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#35 Vitesse2

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Posted 27 June 2006 - 22:45

There's some rare-looking machinery there! Same line-up, but further along? I think I spot a couple more MGs, but other than that I'm stumped unless the one on the end is a Renault!

Pure guess: is it at Leyburn?

#36 Ray Bell

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Posted 28 June 2006 - 01:01

Notch up one for Speedy... it's Leyburn...

Yeah, same lineup further along, for sure, but I think the end car might be a 203. Not sure, though, and none of the other pics give any clues either. The car alongside of Law seems to be a speedcar on bigger wheels.

Now... just check out this lot about to embark on a race on a circuit with three one-mile straights:

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#37 sandy

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Posted 28 June 2006 - 02:38

"[The car alongside of Law seems to be a speedcar on bigger wheels"

Not just bigger wheels - the rear wheels appear to be enormous.

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Posted 28 June 2006 - 11:57

Sandy I hated to see what you could do with a proper camera...great stuff from you and the others. The photos have a unique quality that really capture the spirit of the day.