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#1 Andrew Kitson

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Posted 10 July 2006 - 08:27

As it has been announced over the weekend that Juan Pablo Montoya will leave F1 and McLaren-Mercedes at the end of the season for a NASCAR ride with Chip Ganassi, I'm wondering when has this happened before or has it? Especially a top line F1 race winner?

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#2 Hugo Boecker

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Posted 10 July 2006 - 09:37

Originally posted by Andrew Kitson
As it has been announced over the weekend that Juan Pablo Montoya will leave F1 and McLaren-Mercedes at the end of the season for a NASCAR ride with Chip Ganassi, I'm wondering when has this happened before or has it? Especially a top line F1 race winner?


I think this move is unique for changing the categories. But there have been some F1 drivers doing some one offs in NASCAR like Rolf Stommelen in 1971, Jochen Rindt and Jim Clark in 1967.

#3 bradbury west

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Posted 10 July 2006 - 09:51

IIRC, dear old Innes Ireland raced a couple of times in stockers. I seem to remember that he set the car up and drove in the conventional racing way, and lunched all his tyres in about ten laps. It might have been in the Team Rosebud days, must look it up in All Arms....

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#4 Bjorn Kjer

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Posted 10 July 2006 - 10:49

:wave: Christian Fittipaldi.
I can look it up , may take some time ,others faster?

#5 Huw Jadvantich

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Posted 10 July 2006 - 11:07

Vic Elford or Mario Andretti?
Some close-ish ones would be anyone who did IROC, Robbie Francevic going from a F1 BRM in the tasman series to NASCAR, or Graham McRae becoming a NASCAR engineer for Kenny Bernstein

#6 KJJ

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Posted 10 July 2006 - 11:13

Originally posted by bradbury west
IIRC, dear old Innes Ireland raced a couple of times in stockers. I seem to remember that he set the car up and drove in the conventional racing way, and lunched all his tyres in about ten laps. It might have been in the Team Rosebud days, must look it up in All Arms....

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Ireland took part in the Daytona 500 in 1967. Innes was always ready to tell a story against himself and did indeed set the car up to oversteer in practice although Andretti put him right on that before the race. In the race Innes was up to 10th place when the engine gave up on lap 126. I've put a page on my Innes site about this, you can read it here if you like. Sorry about the slight dig at Clark - somebody has to do it!

#7 911

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Posted 10 July 2006 - 11:25

Vic Elford also contested the Daytona 500 a few times, too.

#8 David McKinney

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Posted 10 July 2006 - 11:26

Originally posted by Huw Jadvantich
Robbie Francevic going from a F1 BRM in the tasman series to NASCAR

Francevic drove - IIRC - two test laps at Pukekohe in a V8 BRM
I have no knowledge of his ever racing NASCAR. He did contest one of the other US stock-car series - I'd have to check which when I'm not at the office.
But I'm pretty sure that was before his abortive BRM foray

#9 bira

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Posted 10 July 2006 - 11:27

Courtesy NASCAR media services:

Formula One drivers who have competed in NASCAR NEXTEL Cup Series events:

Mario Andretti (USA) – 14 races: 1966-1969. 1 win, 1967 Daytona 500.

Bob Bondurant (USA) – 4 races: 1963-1981

Bobby Rahal (USA) – 1 race: 1984

Jim Clark (Scotland) - 1 race: 1967

Chuck Daigh (USA) – 2 races: 1963-1964

Mark Donohue (USA) – 6 races: 1972-1973. 1 win, 1973 Riverside 500.

Vic Elford (England) - 4 races: 1969- 1972

Christian Fittipaldi (Brazil) – 16 races: 2002, 2003

George Follmer (USA) – 20 races: 1972-1987

Hideo Fukiyama (Japan) - 4 races: 2002, 2003

Frank Gardner (Australia) – 1 race: 1968

Dan Gurney (USA) – 16 races: 1962-1980. 5 wins (All at Riverside, Ca.)

Walt Hansgen (USA) – 3 races:1964-1965

David Hobbs (England) – 2 races: 1976

Innes Ireland (England) - 2 races: 1967

Jacky Ickx (Belgium) - Attempted to make the field for the 1969 Daytona 500.

Lella Lombard (Italy) - 1 race: 1977

Brain Naylor (England) - 2 races: 1961

Jackie Oliver (England) - 8 races: 1971, 1972

Sam Posey (USA) – 1 race. 1970

Pedro Rodriguez (Mexico) – 6 races: 1959 – 1971

Bob Said (USA) - 1 race: 1959

Jo Schlesser (France) - 2 races: 1964

Rolf Stommelen (Germany) - 1 event: 1971

Danny Sullivan (USA) - 1 race: 1994

Bobby Unser (USA) – 4 races: 1969-1973

* The Indianapolis 500 was part of the Formula One schedule from 1950 to 1960. Any Indy 500 drivers who also competed in a NASCAR premier series event would technically be included in this list. They are: A.J. Foyt (7 NASCAR wins), Al Keller (1 NASCAR win), Bill Cheesbourg, Bill Holland, Bill Cantrell, Chuck Stevenson, Dick Rathmann (13 NASCAR wins), Jim Rathmann, Johnny Mantz (1 NASCAR win), Len Sutton, Lloyd Ruby, Marshall Teague (7 NASCAR wins), Mike Magill, Paul Goldsmith (9 NASCAR wins), Rodger Ward, Troy Ruttman.

#10 Huw Jadvantich

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Posted 10 July 2006 - 11:38

"Francevic drove - IIRC - two test laps at Pukekohe in a V8 BRM
I have no knowledge of his ever racing NASCAR. He did contest one of the other US stock-car series - I'd have to check which when I'm not at the office.
But I'm pretty sure that was before his abortive BRM foray "

I guess this might be a case of the story getting bigger every time it was told Dave ;) I'd be interested to see what your research shows

#11 Andrew Kitson

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Posted 10 July 2006 - 11:38

Thanks everyone. Now I know.

#12 ehagar

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Posted 10 July 2006 - 11:40

Originally posted by bira
Courtesy NASCAR media services:

Formula One drivers who have competed in NASCAR NEXTEL Cup Series events:


Hideo Fukiyama (Japan) - 4 races: 2002, 2003


Uhhhh.... Fukuyama competed in F1?

#13 Ross Stonefeld

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Posted 10 July 2006 - 11:51

I miss Hideo :|

#14 macoran

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Posted 10 July 2006 - 22:58

Fuki in F1 ?
Team Whati ?
Whicha Lace ?

#15 Frank Verplanken

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Posted 11 July 2006 - 16:29

Originally posted by bira
Courtesy NASCAR media services:

Formula One drivers who have competed in NASCAR NEXTEL Cup Series events:

IIRC Lulu Scarfiotti might be missing from the list ?

#16 HistoricMustang

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Posted 11 July 2006 - 22:24

Anyone and anybody that has done a lap in NASCAR's top division.

Henry

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#17 scheivlak

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Posted 11 July 2006 - 23:01

Originally posted by bira
[i]* The Indianapolis 500 was part of the Formula One schedule from 1950 to 1960. Any Indy 500 drivers who also competed in a NASCAR premier series event would technically be included in this list.

No, the Indy 500 was part of the World Drivers Championship which was something else than "the Formula One schedule" - remember 1952/1953!