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#4751 mfd

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Posted 19 November 2012 - 17:15

Thanks so much Giraffe.....I was transported back to what was a magical era for me :up:


Ditto Tony, but seeing all those 312T/Hunt with caravans makes me wonder if Ron Rush has missed an essential part of the period!

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#4752 ReWind

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Posted 19 November 2012 - 18:30

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Who is that guy several inches shorter than Bernie?


The short chap in the picture with Bernie i seem to recognise as being with Emerson Fittipaldi when he first came to the UK, I remember him at Snetterton for Emmo's first Formula Ford race.

I think he is then 33-year-old Francisco Castejon do Couto Rosa a.k.a. Chico Rosa.

BTW, the tall bespectacled guy in the first two of the quoted pictures is Dieter Stappert (1942-2008), then a journo with Swiss magazine "Powerslide".



#4753 kayemod

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Posted 19 November 2012 - 18:43

I think he is then 33-year-old Francisco Castejon do Couto Rosa a.k.a. Chico Rosa.


Didn't he have a rather short co-starring part in a long ago TV programme called Fantasy Island ?


#4754 ReWind

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Posted 19 November 2012 - 19:08

No.

#4755 petestenning

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Posted 19 November 2012 - 19:30

yes that's definitely the guy i remember with Emerson at his Snetterton FF début. in 1969.


The guy from Fantasy island was Herve Villechaize

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#4756 Ray Bell

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Posted 19 November 2012 - 22:54

Originally posted by Lee Nicolle
.....I have seen other pics of cars with two rear wings. I reckon some 5000s used that set up too in period.


Frank Matich certainly did...

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As can be seen, it ran close to the ground and Frank reckoned it gave a good overall improvement in downforce, especially at lower speeds. The pic is from Terry Marshall and is on page 239 of F5000 Thunder.

#4757 kayemod

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Posted 19 November 2012 - 23:03

Frank Matich certainly did...

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As can be seen, it ran close to the ground and Frank reckoned it gave a good overall improvement in downforce, especially at lower speeds. The pic is from Terry Marshall and is on page 239 of F5000 Thunder.


And probably without much of a drag penalty.


#4758 jj2728

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Posted 20 November 2012 - 00:44

Brilliant photos. Thanks for sharing them.

#4759 Rob Ryder

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Posted 20 November 2012 - 22:02

Ferrari Mystery !!

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This photo has thrown up a question regarding Scuderia Ferrari at the International Trophy.

Sheldon Black Book has...
#6 Jacky Ickx in chassis 0009
#20 Chris Amon in chassis 0007 - also using 0009 in practice.

Motorsport Magazine states that Ferrari sent two cars to Silverstone.
A new chassis with a lower mounted engine (0009) and Amon's normal race car (0007).
Amon tried both cars in practice and decided he preferred his normal car, leaving the new 0009 chassis for Ickx.
This would agree with the Black Books.

Now look at the photo... you will see THREE Ferraris and not TWO !!
#20 in the background has the lower engine so must be 0009 practiced by Amon and raced by Ickx.
#20T is probably 0007 raced by Amon but with a 'T' for practice.
So what is the Ferrari chassis in the foreground, with the high engine?
Whatever chassis it is it was used in practice by Ickx as #6 because I have photos of a high engine Ferrari with #6 and Ickx driving.

:confused: :confused:

Can anyone shed light on this mystery

Thanks
Rob


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#4760 group7

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Posted 21 November 2012 - 03:11

rob, interesting observation on the ferraris in the paddock. I searched through my books on ferrari in F1 by alan henry, anthony pritchard and others, there was no mention of a third ferrari in the text, or in the results tables. looked up chassis histories on various sites, no mention. you referred to the motor sports report, would that have been jenks on the race ? very seldom did he miss any little details, but he had a lot of ground to cover. don't have my collection of motor sports at hand at the moment. we will await further news from our learned colleagues

mike in canada

#4761 Catalina Park

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Posted 21 November 2012 - 07:58

At a guess it would have to be 0003.

#4762 SEdward

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Posted 21 November 2012 - 08:40

Add possibly some of the very last photos Mike Spence...

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#4763 Rob Ryder

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Posted 21 November 2012 - 09:08

rob, interesting observation on the ferraris in the paddock. I searched through my books on ferrari in F1 by alan henry, anthony pritchard and others, there was no mention of a third ferrari in the text, or in the results tables. looked up chassis histories on various sites, no mention. you referred to the motor sports report, would that have been jenks on the race ? very seldom did he miss any little details, but he had a lot of ground to cover. don't have my collection of motor sports at hand at the moment. we will await further news from our learned colleagues

Mike in canada

Thanks for checking Mike.
The report in Motor Sport is not by DSJ but is by DCN  ;)
Rob

#4764 Duc-Man

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Posted 21 November 2012 - 09:23

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Can somebody tell me what this is?

#4765 Tim Murray

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Posted 21 November 2012 - 09:28

It's the Rover BS Coupe - one of the great might-have-beens:

http://www.classican...r_bs_story.html

#4766 Duc-Man

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Posted 21 November 2012 - 10:08

It's the Rover BS Coupe - one of the great might-have-beens:

http://www.classican...r_bs_story.html


Thanks for the link. Interessting story about a car I've never heard of.

#4767 Giraffe

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Posted 21 November 2012 - 21:09

Silverstone International Trophy, 1970, courtesy of Maurice Bruton....

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#4768 Giraffe

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Posted 21 November 2012 - 21:18

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#4769 Giraffe

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Posted 21 November 2012 - 21:22

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#4770 Giraffe

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Posted 21 November 2012 - 21:27

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#4771 Bjorn Kjer

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Posted 21 November 2012 - 21:55

More splendid photos of cars , drivers , personalities , mechanics , etc. AND TRANSPORTERS ! Great pictures form a great time. Thanks so much !

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#4772 SEdward

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Posted 22 November 2012 - 05:18

I never realised that the Lotus 72 made its debut at that race. Does anyone know why Chapman waited until Holland before entering the car in a Grand Prix.

And how refreshing to see a top driver candidly smoking in front of the cameras. Unthinkable today!

Edward

#4773 Lee Nicolle

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Posted 22 November 2012 - 06:11

I never realised that the Lotus 72 made its debut at that race. Does anyone know why Chapman waited until Holland before entering the car in a Grand Prix.

And how refreshing to see a top driver candidly smoking in front of the cameras. Unthinkable today!

Edward

The PC crowd really did not take hold until about 1980. James Hunt was regularly photographed with a fag and even alcohol after a race.
How many of the current crop enjoy a cigarette I wonder?

#4774 Tim Murray

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Posted 22 November 2012 - 07:40

I never realised that the Lotus 72 made its debut at that race. Does anyone know why Chapman waited until Holland before entering the car in a Grand Prix.
Edward

The 72 first appeared at the Spanish GP (held before the International Trophy) where John Miles failed to qualify. Then both Rindt and Miles were very slow at Silverstone, as the handling was poor and the car was difficult to drive. It had been designed with suspension featuring a lot of anti-dive at the front and anti-squat at the rear, and this was thought to be the cause of the problem. Major mods were thus carried out to remove these features. This took some time, so during this period the 72 was relegated to spare car status at Monaco, and Rindt opted for a 49 in Belgium, leaving the 72s to Miles and Soler-Roig.

#4775 Arjan de Roos

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Posted 22 November 2012 - 07:54

Great pictures Tony, thank you for posting. How many pictures do we see that include McLaren, Mayer and Ron Dennis?

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#4776 Julian Roberts

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Posted 22 November 2012 - 08:55

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This is how I'd like to see the crowd dress at Goodwood :)



#4777 Barry Boor

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Posted 22 November 2012 - 08:57

If Goodwood insisted on this type of dress, nobody would go.

Except real enthusiasts, of course.... Hey! You might be onto something there.

#4778 Bruno

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Posted 22 November 2012 - 10:12

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#4779 kayemod

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Posted 22 November 2012 - 10:15

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Ah, I take it you don't use the spellchecker Bruno?


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#4780 Bruno

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Posted 22 November 2012 - 10:52

Ah, I take it you don't use the spellchecker Bruno?



Noooooooooo!!!!!!!!!........ :rotfl:


#4781 kayemod

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Posted 22 November 2012 - 10:57

Noooooooooo!!!!!!!!!........ :rotfl:


Pas de problème! and you're quite right about all these pics.


#4782 John-w

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Posted 22 November 2012 - 18:28

Hello,

for many years I dreamed of visiting the Donington Collection, but it is to far away from my
home so I must organize my own show:
John-w’s Motor Show, “The golden age of motor sport”

I will use this answer to say “thank you” to all TNF’s, specially “Personal photos from the paddock” for sharing all
these excellent reference photos!!!

Here are some photos from my show: :)

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All cars in scale 1/20th :)


#4783 Barry Boor

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Posted 22 November 2012 - 18:34

That is simply wonderful.

#4784 Mistron

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Posted 22 November 2012 - 18:39

What Barry said. I love the twist on not putting them in a race set up - fantastic!

Though I think Mr Hill's Embasy car could do with a nicer block under the wheel!

Al

#4785 john winfield

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Posted 22 November 2012 - 18:42

John-w. Astonishing! Love the BRM P160 and Hailwood's Surtees. And a Maki! And now we know where the Donington 312B1 has gone! :)
JohnW (no relation)

#4786 Tim Murray

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Posted 22 November 2012 - 19:16

Truly amazing, John. :clap:

How on earth do you keep them all clean? :lol:

#4787 Kingsleyrob

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Posted 23 November 2012 - 01:23

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Would I be right in assuming that the gentleman on the right above is the same person standing second left on my treasured photo below, from Detroit 1988? And would I be right in saying it is Alan Challis? The pose is uncannily similar, as well as the haircut. Thanks for posting these shots Tony. :up:

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Rob :wave:
PS Fantastic show John-w. You had me very puzzled for a while... :)

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#4788 Stephen W

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Posted 23 November 2012 - 10:10

Would I be right in assuming that the gentleman on the right above is the same person standing second left on my treasured photo below, from Detroit 1988? And would I be right in saying it is Alan Challis? The pose is uncannily similar, as well as the haircut. Thanks for posting these shots Tony. :up:


Yes it is Alan Challis who I met on several occasions whilst he was part of the BRM set-up.

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#4789 Alan Cox

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Posted 23 November 2012 - 10:12

I commend those of you who don't follow the 'Racing Collectables' sub-forum to view John-w's contributions on there. He often posts photographs following the construction of his latest project(s)
http://www.john-w.de/models/

#4790 Phil Rainford

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Posted 23 November 2012 - 12:19

Stunning ...... :eek: :eek:

What are the opening hours ?

PAR

#4791 kayemod

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Posted 23 November 2012 - 14:09

Stunning ...... :eek: :eek:

What are the opening hours ?

PAR


Yes stunning indeed, but are the entry tickets to the same scale as the cars?


#4792 charles r

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Posted 23 November 2012 - 15:07

Hello,

for many years I dreamed of visiting the Donington Collection, but it is to far away from my
home so I must organize my own show:
John-w’s Motor Show, “The golden age of motor sport”

I will use this answer to say “thank you” to all TNF’s, specially “Personal photos from the paddock” for sharing all
these excellent reference photos!!!

Here are some photos from my show: :)

John,
These models are quite the best thing I have seen. Absolutely wonderful work, congratulations and thank you for sharing with us. My favourite era.

#4793 Barry Boor

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Posted 23 November 2012 - 15:09

I had no idea that so many models were available as 1/20th kits.


#4794 Parkesi

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Posted 23 November 2012 - 15:25

From my personal wishing list for Xmas 2012: is there also a photo of Mike Parkes?
After winning the International Trophy in 1967 (1st F 1 win in Silverstone for an Englishman since Peter Collins/ 1958)
he was given the honour to start the race in 1968. This year he was still recovering from his F 1 career-ending crash in Spa in June 1967.
There is a picture of him on crutches before the start next to the Lotus cars (see Peter Darley / Life at Team Lotus)
but I have never seen a picture of him actually starting the race. Regards, Andreas

#4795 Tim Murray

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Posted 23 November 2012 - 16:20

... 1st F 1 win in Silverstone for an Englishman since Peter Collins/ 1958 ...

Not so. Graham Hill won the 1962 International Trophy in that thrilling finish when he drove around the outside of Clark at Woodcote on the last lap to take the win - just. Both cars were given the same race time.

#4796 SEdward

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Posted 23 November 2012 - 16:28

Equally remarkable!

When was Gunnar Nilsson's Lotus decked out in red with the Imperial livery?

Edward

#4797 Tim Murray

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Posted 23 November 2012 - 17:04

1977 Japanese GP, his last race. :cry:

#4798 Elio de Maky

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Posted 23 November 2012 - 17:20

Great pictures Tony, thank you for posting. How many pictures do we see that include McLaren, Mayer and Ron Dennis?

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#4799 Paul Hurdsfield

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Posted 23 November 2012 - 20:24

Thank you John W, that is absolutely amazing :up:

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#4800 Giraffe

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Posted 27 November 2012 - 17:50

Silverstone International Trophy 1971. I apologise for some repetition amongst Maurice's images, but I like to post them as he shot them.....

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