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#3001 ANF

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Posted 09 September 2014 - 21:43

Two questions about things I heard on Rosberg's radio in practice at Monza:

1. Rosberg was having problems with the downshifts and reported, "The gears are not learning," at which his engineer replied, "Cancel brake magic." What exactly is "brake magic"? Some sort of advanced rev control for efficient braking?

2. Rosberg asked a question that had to do with the setup of the car, and his engineer seemed reluctant go give a straight answer. Rosberg was then told to "use the other radio". Is there perhaps a "secret" team radio that's not available to the FOM broadcast?



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#3002 DampMongoose

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Posted 09 September 2014 - 21:52

If there is Rosberg probably had no chance of using it anyway given it was likely jammed with the wall making all Hamilton's decisions for him ;)

#3003 scheivlak

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Posted 09 September 2014 - 22:49

2. Rosberg asked a question that had to do with the setup of the car, and his engineer seemed reluctant go give a straight answer. Rosberg was then told to "use the other radio". Is there perhaps a "secret" team radio that's not available to the FOM broadcast?

'Ham radio' of course  :D

 

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#3004 Ross Stonefeld

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Posted 09 September 2014 - 22:52

Why is it in a disabled toilet?



#3005 flatlander48

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Posted 09 September 2014 - 23:18

Two questions about things I heard on Rosberg's radio in practice at Monza:
1. Rosberg was having problems with the downshifts and reported, "The gears are not learning," at which his engineer replied, "Cancel brake magic." What exactly is "brake magic"? Some sort of advanced rev control for efficient braking?
2. Rosberg asked a question that had to do with the setup of the car, and his engineer seemed reluctant go give a straight answer. Rosberg was then told to "use the other radio". Is there perhaps a "secret" team radio that's not available to the FOM broadcast?


Given that part of the braking is done by kinetic energy absorption, I would guess that it relates to some software that manages the rate at which the energy is absorbed. You would want that to have a certain rate and not too much or too little as it should feel like it isn't really happening. It should be seamless.

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Posted 12 September 2014 - 09:29

Why doesnt Indy race on COTA?

 

F1 usually doesn't allow IndyCar use its tracks. That's why IndyCar had a street race in Sao Paulo. Then again, I don't know how Montreal was allowed to host both F1 and CART.

 

Then my S.Q.:

 

IndyCar, Super Formula, and Formula E are those single-seater series where drivers go after F1 or when their F1 door has closed but they still want to stay in single-seaters. But are drivers in those series pay drivers or paid drivers? I least I could assume the big names in IndyCar are paid drivers but I could guess there are pay drivers, too.



#3007 Vepe1995

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Posted 12 September 2014 - 13:28

F1 usually doesn't allow IndyCar use its tracks. That's why IndyCar had a street race in Sao Paulo. Then again, I don't know how Montreal was allowed to host both F1 and CART.

 

Then my S.Q.:

 

IndyCar, Super Formula, and Formula E are those single-seater series where drivers go after F1 or when their F1 door has closed but they still want to stay in single-seaters. But are drivers in those series pay drivers or paid drivers? I least I could assume the big names in IndyCar are paid drivers but I could guess there are pay drivers, too.

 

I, too, would think the big names are paid to drive, the rest are split between "paying to race" and "not paid, but not paying."



#3008 Option1

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Posted 12 September 2014 - 16:01

F1 usually doesn't allow IndyCar use its tracks...

This keeps getting trotted out, but I'm not at all convinced that's true these days.  I think Bernie lost his paranoia about Indycar when the CART/IRL split was at its most damaging for open wheel racing in Nth America.  He simply didn't see it as a threat, because it wasn't.  And while Indycar is very definitely on the mend, Bernie's evil eye of Mordough hasn't yet noticed its resurgence.

 

I strongly suspect that Indycar doesn't race at Austin/COTA because of the usual reason for everything, $$$. 

 

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Posted 12 September 2014 - 16:17

This keeps getting trotted out, but I'm not at all convinced that's true these days.  I think Bernie lost his paranoia about Indycar when the CART/IRL split was at its most damaging for open wheel racing in Nth America.  He simply didn't see it as a threat, because it wasn't.  And while Indycar is very definitely on the mend, Bernie's evil eye of Mordough hasn't yet noticed its resurgence.

 

I strongly suspect that Indycar doesn't race at Austin/COTA because of the usual reason for everything, $$$. 

 

Neil

 

Don't forget it was just last year when Sao Paulo had IndyCar on a street circuit.



#3010 Option1

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Posted 12 September 2014 - 17:05

Don't forget it was just last year when Sao Paulo had IndyCar on a street circuit.

I hadn't, but that doesn't mean the F1 circuit weren't allowed to run them.  There could well have been other factors involved, including the city believing they'd get better publicity value for the money spent by running on a street circuit, plus it could very well have been Indycar's desire to run on the street circuit - biatches love those concrete canyons.

 

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#3011 Ev0d3vil

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Posted 18 September 2014 - 06:41

What is it about 2014 that does not allow EBD? The single exhaust or the angle of the exhaust pipe?



#3012 alfa1

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Posted 18 September 2014 - 07:27

1. Rosberg was having problems with the downshifts and reported, "The gears are not learning,"

 

Gearbox "learning" is a type of calibration that lets the computer know exactly what the sensors in the gearbox are actually reading, as opposed to what they might theoretically read.

 

An explanation from elsewhere on the net...

There are rotary position sensors on the gear selector barrel that correlate voltage to selected gear number. With heat and mechanical tolerance, they can be slightly misaligned, so they can do a quick recalibration from the cockpit by engaging 7th gear and telling the gearbox control MCU that the box is physically in 7th, so it will identify what voltage correlates.

 

So its quite common for drivers to be reminded on the formation lap (when they are driving slow) to "learn 7th gear" by selecting it even though they aren't really driving fast enough to normally warrant using it. It lets the computer see what the gearbox sensors are actually reading.

 

Thats only half the explanation... the "brake magic" thing might actually be a completely different problem Nico was having.

 

Incidentally, the reminder to the driver will be BANNED from the Japanese grand prix onwards.

 

Its not just F1 cars that have gearbox learning issues. Ferrari road car forums are also full of people complaining about difficulties with gearboxes doing the wrong thing, and others suggesting a new "learning" calibration might fix it...



#3013 KirilVarbanov

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Posted 18 September 2014 - 08:25

What is it about 2014 that does not allow EBD? The single exhaust or the angle of the exhaust pipe?

Both. 



#3014 Jerem

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Posted 18 September 2014 - 08:49

2. Rosberg asked a question that had to do with the setup of the car, and his engineer seemed reluctant go give a straight answer. Rosberg was then told to "use the other radio". Is there perhaps a "secret" team radio that's not available to the FOM broadcast?

If Merc DO have another radio, they could use it to trick that radio clampdown thing.



#3015 Ev0d3vil

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Posted 19 September 2014 - 03:05

If Merc DO have another radio, they could use it to trick that radio clampdown thing.


Something like "go secure" stuff you see in spy flicks.

#3016 InSearchOfThe

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Posted 23 September 2014 - 15:00

This is a question for our friends in the British Isles. It might be the difference between American english and English english.

 

My very shoddy education here in the states taught me that the pass tense of the word learn is learned not learnt. As in " I learned how to drive when I was 16 years old".

 

Learnt, along with the other saying I see on here all the time, I reckon, sounds very "Deliverence Southern" and gives me the shivers everytime I read it. I picture the slack-jawed yokel from The Simpsons not the sophistication of the British dialict.

 

I mean no disrepect. I know the rest of the world thinks all Americans are slack-jawed yokels, but the question needs answered because it drives me batshit crazy everytime I see these words.

 

Thank You

 

ISOT


Edited by InSearchOfThe, 23 September 2014 - 15:02.


#3017 Option1

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Posted 23 September 2014 - 16:03

From http://www.oxforddic...arnt-vs-learned

 

 

These are alternative forms of the past tense and past participle of the verb learn. ‘Learnt’ is more common in British English, and ‘learned’ in American English. There are a number of verbs of this type (burn, dream, kneel, lean, leap, spell, spill, spoil etc.). They are all irregular verbs, and this is a part of their irregularity.

 

Neil


Edited by Option1, 23 September 2014 - 16:03.


#3018 Amphicar

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Posted 23 September 2014 - 17:25

Can you be a slack-jawed yokel if you have a stiff upper lip?

#3019 flatlander48

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Posted 23 September 2014 - 18:07

That sounds like some sort of parlor (parlour) game...

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#3020 Option1

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Posted 23 September 2014 - 18:12

With the right participants, I could see it being a fun bedroom game...

 

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#3021 Risil

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Posted 23 September 2014 - 21:50

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"Oh Papa Homer, you are so learned."

"Learn'd, son. It's pronounced learn'd!"


Edited by Risil, 23 September 2014 - 21:51.


#3022 InSearchOfThe

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Posted 24 September 2014 - 00:53

Thanks fellas.

 

We're all correct then.

 

Even by someone who can't spell past correctly.

 

 

 

 

 



#3023 makroncommander

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Posted 24 September 2014 - 11:45

What happens to engines after they've run their course, are they give back to the manufacturer?

 

For example, after using the engines, is Mac contracted to give back the engines to Merc?

If yes, do you think Mac has employed Honda engineers undercover as part of the Mac team? (I would)



#3024 Ev0d3vil

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Posted 24 September 2014 - 15:16

http://www.carwow.co...hardest-f1-quiz

 

Hardest F1 quiz ever. Only got 9/21 argh.



#3025 Ross Stonefeld

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Posted 24 September 2014 - 15:23

What happens to engines after they've run their course, are they give back to the manufacturer?

 

For example, after using the engines, is Mac contracted to give back the engines to Merc?

If yes, do you think Mac has employed Honda engineers undercover as part of the Mac team? (I would)

 

In racing 99% of the time you are leasing an engine.



#3026 noikeee

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Posted 24 September 2014 - 17:16

http://www.carwow.co...hardest-f1-quiz

 

Hardest F1 quiz ever. Only got 9/21 argh.

 

15/21  :cool:



#3027 BillBald

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Posted 24 September 2014 - 17:24

What happens to engines after they've run their course, are they give back to the manufacturer?

 

For example, after using the engines, is Mac contracted to give back the engines to Merc?

If yes, do you think Mac has employed Honda engineers undercover as part of the Mac team? (I would)

 

McLaren said they were having to wait for Merc to tell them what went wrong with Jenson's power box in Singapore.

 

It sounds like only Merc have any kind of access to the power unit or its control systems.



#3028 flatlander48

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Posted 24 September 2014 - 21:21

I suspect there are some pretty stringent agreements in place regarding the protection of Mercedes intellectual property. I'm sure it Mercedes had an whiff of wrongdoing, they would sue Ron Dennis et al down to their socks. Further, if you remember SpyGate, McLaren had to have their car gone over by the FIA to demonstrate that it contained no Ferrari DNA...

#3029 Ev0d3vil

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Posted 24 September 2014 - 23:31

15/21  :cool:

 

Thats cool! I believe some of the questions in there could be asked in this thread ! :up:



#3030 E.B.

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Posted 25 September 2014 - 13:46

15/21  :cool:


19/21

Can't believe it myself, as I guessed at least 5.

EDIT - played it again to see how many I genuinely knew rather than just guessed - 15 it would seem.

Edited by E.B., 25 September 2014 - 14:08.


#3031 TopDog85

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Posted 25 September 2014 - 14:10

http://www.carwow.co...hardest-f1-quiz

Hardest F1 quiz ever. Only got 9/21 argh.



#3032 John Player

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Posted 25 September 2014 - 14:13

If Mercedes had stopped developing the car right before the first race in Australia, what kind of results they would be getting now?



#3033 Ricciardo2014

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Posted 25 September 2014 - 17:16

If Mercedes had stopped developing the car right before the first race in Australia, what kind of results they would be getting now?

 

Same   ;)



#3034 Maustinsj

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Posted 25 September 2014 - 20:10

15/21  :cool:

 

I got 15 as well!  :wave:



#3035 blackhand2010

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Posted 27 September 2014 - 12:14

With the reports that other teams had to feed the Caterham team in Singapore, it reminded me of something I’ve always been curious about:

With the huge hospitality suites the teams have, is all the catering provided for free (I’m guessing that’s a given…), and if so, can anyone just walk into, say, the Torro Rosso suite, and get a bowl of pasta?

And if not, how is it regulated?



#3036 SpartanChas

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Posted 27 September 2014 - 12:21

Journalists are often writing on twitter about what they're eating from what teams motorhome so yeah I believe so. Not just anyone is allowed into the paddock, though, obviously.