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#1 joe twyman

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Posted 14 September 2006 - 17:20

Does anyone have any information and preferably photographs of the Envoy Formula Junior from 1959. I know very little about the car other than it was run by Ian Raby, was rear engined and had drum brakes...Thanks in advance :up:

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#2 Macca

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Posted 14 September 2006 - 19:45

I found this photo and spec in a little old book:

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Is that the one you mean?


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#3 David Beard

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Posted 14 September 2006 - 20:54

Originally posted by Macca
I found this photo and spec in a little old book:

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Is that the one you mean?


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That Hippo book was something of a gem, yes?

#4 Macca

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Posted 14 September 2006 - 21:29

Both editions are.............but the Envoy doesn't appear in the later version.


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#5 raceannouncer2003

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Posted 14 September 2006 - 22:21

This from April 1960 Road & Track:

http://img168.images...envoy328wn1.jpg

More here:

http://www.formula2.net/FJ_Cars1.htm

I will email you some potential contacts.

Are you restoring one?

Sure great to see photos of 0704TR, 0794TR, etc. at Goodwood. Did Phil Hill get to see/ride in/drive 0704TR? Any chance we will ever see it again on this side of the Atlantic?

Vince Howlett, Victoria, B.C., Canada

#6 joe twyman

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Posted 15 September 2006 - 11:48

Thank you for your help! Just what I needed...Not restoring one, just needed some further information and background as to what one was! I had never really even heard of it before yesterday!

Phil Hill didnt ride in 0704 at Goodwood, his son-in-law went round on Sunday. I am sure he saw it though! Not sure with regards to a return to US for the car...depends if there is something there for it to go to..

JT

#7 bradbury west

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Posted 15 September 2006 - 12:01

As general FJ info, Bernard Cowdray's book Formula Junior Racing Cars... Remembered, has a good index/appendix at the back listing articles, a wide range too, about FJ individual and about FJ topics in general, which is a very useful guide tool.

Roger Lund.

#8 Peter Green

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Posted 16 September 2006 - 19:00

Joe,

I have just purchased a Formula Junior Envoy and was searching the web to see what information I could find out about the car and I came across your posting. Do you want me to e-mail you some pictures of the car.

Any information about Formula Junior Envoys and Britannias (I have one of those as well) will be very welcome, anything between 1960 - 2006.

Peter Green

#9 Twin Window

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Posted 16 September 2006 - 19:05

I can merge this thread with the newly-created Two-stroke Formula Junior thread if deemed appropriate.

Please let me know!

#10 Mistron

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Posted 16 September 2006 - 19:13

the Unique Motor books "Formula Junior" has a number of articles on Envoy.

reproductions of period articles, so image quality is a bit 'iffy' in places

I think Motor Books / Chaters etc will have it.

Not sure if they'd be all that happy if I scan the pages and post them here!

#11 David McKinney

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Posted 16 September 2006 - 20:19

Originally posted by Twin Window
I can merge this thread with the newly-created Two-stroke Formula Junior thread if deemed appropriate.

Please let me know!


No, leave the two-stroke thread to the two-strokes :)

#12 Twin Window

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Posted 16 September 2006 - 21:15

Originally posted by David McKinney

No, leave the two-stroke thread to the two-strokes :)

I've never pretended that it's my era/formula, you know... :blush:

#13 raceannouncer2003

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Posted 17 September 2006 - 07:23

Peter

There was an Envoy Formula Junior that raced in this area "back then"...what is the history of yours?

Vince H., Victoria, B.C., Canada

#14 Peter Green

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Posted 17 September 2006 - 08:36

Vince,

I know very little of the cars history except that it has been in Germany, from where I purchased it, for at least the last 10 years. I believe that it is chassis number 3.

Peter.

#15 Claus Myhr

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Posted 10 October 2006 - 16:04

Hi Vince,
this pictures shows my Envoy MK II at Nürburging 2005.It is chassis number 210.
2 means MK II
1 means year of production 1= 1961
0 means start of production=first prototyp
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