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#1 sterling49

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Posted 16 September 2006 - 20:00

A forerunner to the FIA World Sportscar Championship races in the late '60's, Brands Hatch held a 500 mile race sponsored by the company Ilford Films. This was a rare treat to see cars racing for this length of time and enabled me to spend time at every vantage point around the circuit. Memories from the day were of Innes Ireland in a Ford GT entered by F.English (Bournemouth) Ltd and Roger Enever who finished very high up the results in a near standard Black MGB c/w ( I think) maroon soft top cover. It rained for most of the race and Minters' cafes did a roaring trade in coffee, however, as hard as I have tried (Google), I cannot find much information on this race (circa 1966?), does anyone have any details? Maybe a scanneg programme/entry list....mine went out when managent deemed the garage was a tad too full of.........magazines!!!!

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#2 Robert Bailey

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Posted 16 September 2006 - 20:50

try the book two seats one driver.

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Posted 16 September 2006 - 21:02

Sterling 49- I took a look at WSRP site, and I have a candidate, although there is vitually nothing re. results of that particular race there- could it be '66 Boxing Day meeting at Brands (link) on Dec 13th?

#4 David McKinney

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Posted 16 September 2006 - 21:41

Sound like the 500 km race for production sportscars run on 8/5/66, won by Piper/Bondurant in a 7-litre Cobra from the Sutcliffe/Liddell GT40 with the Poole/Enever MGB third

#5 Carlos Guerra

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Posted 16 September 2006 - 22:21

BRANDS HATCH 8 May 1966

ILFORD FILMS 500

Pos Driver CC Car Team Laps Average Time
1 DAVID PIPER / BOB BONDURANT 7010 AC COBRA 427 The Chequered Flag 175 77,11mph 6:00:50,00
2 PETER SUTCLIFFE / ERIC LIDDELL 4727 FORD GT 40 168
3 ROGER ENEVER / ALEC POOLE 1798 MG 'B' John Sach 167
4 MIKE SALMON / DAVID HOBBS 3285 FERRARI 250 LM David Piper 165
5 R ELLICE / KEITH GREEN 1594 LOTUS Elan 163
6 D PLUMSTEAD / W PEARCE 3781 JAGUAR 'E' 161
P BEACH / A DAYKIN 1138 MG Midget 145
JACK OLIVER 3781 JAGUAR 'E' Ken Baker
JEAN DENTON 1798 MG 'B'
INNES IRELAND 4727 FORD GT 40 F English & Co Ltd
ROY PIKE / CHRIS IRWIN 4727 AC COBRA 289 The Chequered Flag
ERIC FALCE 1594 LOTUS Elan
JOHN HINE / JOHN MILES 1594 LOTUS Elan Chris Barber
PETER GETHIN / JOHN LEPP 1594 LOTUS Elan
KEITH ST JOHN 1594 LOTUS Elan Radio London
BERNARD UNETT / RAY CALCUTT 4727 SUNBEAM Tiger Alan Fraser

#6 sterling49

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Posted 16 September 2006 - 22:22

Thanks for the help guys, the link provided has the results.......memory getting better now, seem to remember that Amon and Ireland were pretty quick whilst going......but had forgotten just how many "sports" cars there were entered (Midgets and MGB's). Looked for the book on Amazon, but to no avail, will have to look in specialist book shop. I could not remeber that Tony Flory died in a practice accident either.....now, just what did I come upstairs for? :lol:

#7 Nordic

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Posted 17 September 2006 - 07:31

Originally posted by sterling49
will have to look in specialist book shop. :lol:


Maybe the book mentioned is called 'time and two seats' by János Wimpffen.

#8 Rob29

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Posted 17 September 2006 - 07:44

Originally posted by Wolf
Sterling 49- I took a look at WSRP site, and I have a candidate, although there is vitually nothing re. results of that particular race there- could it be '66 Boxing Day meeting at Brands (link) on Dec 13th?

Fairly sure that date and the one on the WSRP site(30.12.66) is wrong.Boxing Day meet was always 26 or 27th-I was there.Around that time there was also a club meeting in mid-december.

#9 RAP

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Posted 17 September 2006 - 08:13

WSPR has full results of the Ilford Films 500 held 8th May which is the race that sterling49 is after. You need to go to British National Races., The Boxing Day Brands (yes 27th not 30th) is wrongly listed in non-championship races, it too should be in British National.
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Posted 17 September 2006 - 22:49

Originally posted by RAP
WSPR has full results of the Ilford Films 500 held 8th May which is the race that sterling49 is after. You need to go to British National Races., The Boxing Day Brands (yes 27th not 30th) is wrongly listed in non-championship races, it too should be in British National.
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The WSPR site, or the www.classicscars.com version of it? :rolleyes:

#11 RAP

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Posted 18 September 2006 - 07:48

]The WSPR site, or the www.classicscars.com version of it?[/B]



My understanding is that the classicscars "version" has not been updated for several years. The originator, Martin Krejci's current site is http://www.wsrp.wz.cz/ which is mintained and added to on a regular basis, most recently 21st august, and it has much information not on classicscars. For example, British National Races on classicscars only goes up to 1951 whereas on wspr it is pretty comprehensive up to 1957 (when 226 races are listed) and has quite a bit on subsequent years.
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#12 LotusElise

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Posted 18 September 2006 - 12:10

wsrp is a very good site and more comprehensive than classicscars. However, I sometimes have a problem with whole screens loading in it, so use the classicscars "abridged" version if I am short of time.

#13 sterling49

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Posted 21 September 2006 - 10:38

Originally posted by Nordic


Maybe the book mentioned is called 'time and two seats' by János Wimpffen.


found the book on site recommendedin TNF....albeit $685 US.........management was very interest when "Kings of The Nurburgring" arrived at home from Amazon....at approx £50.00 :kiss:

Anyone know of any other sources? :confused: