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#2151 Michael Ferner

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Posted 04 August 2013 - 17:09



Want something REAL scary? Winged Sprint Cars at the New York State Fairgrounds one-mile dirt oval, 1985... Sammy Swindell set a new track record in qualifying, 26.227"/137 miles per hour... that time would've actually qualified him for the last CART Indycar race before that on a one-mile PAVED oval... consider the difference: the wide pavement at Milwaukee in a rear-engined, 2.7-litre turbocharged March/Cosworth, and the narrow dirt strip at Syracuse in a front-engined, 6.7-litre normally aspirated Challenger/Chevrolet... all I can say is: WOW!!!! :eek: :eek:

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#2152 Michael Ferner

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Posted 04 August 2013 - 17:44



And one for the feel-good category, to end the week on a high note... 1990 Knoxville Nationals Final... Scruffy finally does it! :clap: :clap:

#2153 alansart

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Posted 08 August 2013 - 15:36

Not sure if this has been on here before. MSV posted it on YouTube to celebrate Oulton Park's 60th Anniversary.

http://www.youtube.c...ri1Wrhf0#at=114

Edited by alansart, 08 August 2013 - 15:37.


#2154 opplock

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Posted 08 August 2013 - 16:41

A fascinating film. Two things stand out for me. Firstly I doubt that many of today's marshals (me included) would appreciate being told to wear a tie. Secondly I'm glad the trackside trees had been removed by the time I raced at Oulton.

#2155 werks prototype

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Posted 08 August 2013 - 17:21

http://www.youtube.c...A84E8281BB073F7

The Secret Life of F1. Contains an abundance of historical footage (Particularly Part 2). But you have to stick with it a bit. Parts 1 and 2.

Also in the playlist, Turbo F1 Engines, Parts 1 and 2. Part 1 features Keith Duckworth, circa 1984. (Nice to see the rows of the old 'greenish' drawing boards in the background). Also contains footage of the Duckworth designed (V6) in the hands of the Zeus Pattern and Tool Company, Birmingham, chipping away at seasoned Brazilian Mahogany. "All that's needed is a calculator, a notebook and two centuries of engineering knowhow".

And finally, The Evolution of Rallying: 50 Years Side-ways.

Edited by werks prototype, 08 August 2013 - 19:39.


#2156 alansart

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Posted 08 August 2013 - 17:38

Secondly I'm glad the trackside trees had been removed by the time I raced at Oulton.


As am I as I've had a few "off's" at Oulton in my time!


#2157 Allan Lupton

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Posted 08 August 2013 - 20:08

Firstly I doubt that many of today's marshals (me included) would appreciate being told to wear a tie.

We wouldn't have had to be told - it's what we did in them days!
Here's the de Havilland Tech School class of 1952 to prove the point a little!
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#2158 MCS

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Posted 08 August 2013 - 20:22

Not sure if this has been on here before. MSV posted it on YouTube to celebrate Oulton Park's 60th Anniversary.

http://www.youtube.c...ri1Wrhf0#at=114


What a great film. This has made my day. To see and recognise the gradients of the track is wonderful - I hope they still exist. I will go back one day.


#2159 Barry Boor

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Posted 08 August 2013 - 20:50

I guess it's my imagination but one or two of those gradients look steeper than they are today. Particularly the drop at the end of The Avenue and Deers Leap seems to go down and up more than it does today.

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#2160 MCS

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Posted 08 August 2013 - 21:04

I am sure you are right Barry - others on here would know better than me - but it may of course be a simple case of more tarmac being laid and the track being widened and "re-profiled" I guess.

When I attended a Mallory Park testing day last year (or the year before - I can't remember), I was convinced the approach to the hairpin at the exit of the Lake Esses had changed.

Irrespective, I just wish we could go back in time!

#2161 Tony Kingston

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Posted 08 August 2013 - 22:24

Not sure if this has been on here before. MSV posted it on YouTube to celebrate Oulton Park's 60th Anniversary.

http://www.youtube.c...ri1Wrhf0#at=114


"Not only do the trees add that natural road flavour to the surroundings, though sadly lacking at most airfield rendezvous,...".

What could he possibly be suggesting?

#2162 Nev

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Posted 10 August 2013 - 08:11

Took a break from my project and just returned from a wonderful w/e at the VSCC Prescott Mtg followed by a visit to Morgan at Malvern. Just got to love those three-wheelers!

1930s technology still going strong!

#2163 Emery0323

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Posted 10 August 2013 - 08:39

Here's the official ACO race film of the 1971 Le Mans 24 Hours, with French narration.

At about 3:30 minutes in, watch for the footage of the pace lap from a rearward-facing camera on the Porsche 911 pacecar:


Edited by Emery0323, 10 August 2013 - 08:44.


#2164 Graham Clayton

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Posted 14 August 2013 - 12:39

Peter Brock racing rallycross at Calder Park in the early 1970's:



#2165 john aston

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Posted 15 August 2013 - 07:14

Here's the official ACO race film of the 1971 Le Mans 24 Hours, with French narration.

At about 3:30 minutes in, watch for the footage of the pace lap from a rearward-facing camera on the Porsche 911 pacecar:




What a shame that the noise does not coincide with the on screen images.It is possible to tell the cars apart from noise alone but when you see a Corvettte but hear a 512 it's a bit confusing...

#2166 charles r

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Posted 21 August 2013 - 08:30

http://www.youtube.c...ZwfkQHco&sns=em

 

 

Not exactly nostalgia but...



#2167 nicanary

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Posted 21 August 2013 - 09:16

http://www.youtube.c...ZwfkQHco&sns=em

 

 

Not exactly nostalgia but...

I'll stick up for your post - it's a great reminder of the old days of public road-racing. Ignore the Armco, and you could be on one of the old classic circuits..



#2168 David McKinney

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Posted 21 August 2013 - 09:36

I never realised that course was so fast - I doubt it has changed much since the '50s

 

It would be interesting to see separate times for each competitor for the first two-thirds (approx) and the twistier bits - I suspect there'd be a different order for each :)



#2169 pressman

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Posted 22 August 2013 - 19:11

Not sure if this has been on here before. MSV posted it on YouTube to celebrate Oulton Park's 60th Anniversary.

http://www.youtube.c...ri1Wrhf0#at=114

A little bit of useless  information  the in car stuff  was Tom Dooley  driving in his  Rover, Got that from the horses mouth last week

Cheers

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#2170 RDV

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Posted 23 August 2013 - 20:01

Spa 55



#2171 Barry Boor

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Posted 23 August 2013 - 20:40

What a gem!

 

Wonderful clarity and long enough to give one a real feel for 1950s racing at Spa.

 

Also, confirmation of the strange numbering method used to fool unauthorised programme production.



#2172 LittleChris

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Posted 23 August 2013 - 21:57

Really enjoyed the Spa 1955 film, but why did they intimate that the Mercedes were the class of practice when surely Castellotti was on pole after a very emotional effort following the recent death of Ascari ??

 

Also I think this gives a different perspective to the view of the so called "Fangio -  Moss train". Moss has always claimed that they were a car length apart during most of this race. Not really borne out by the footage is it ?

 

That apart, probably the best bit of film I've seen on this thread :clap:



#2173 Barry Boor

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Posted 24 August 2013 - 05:35

I fully agree with your last sentence, Chris.



#2174 Tim Murray

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Posted 24 August 2013 - 07:59

What a gem!

 

 

That apart, probably the best bit of film I've seen on this thread :clap:

 

Couldn't agree more.  I really enjoyed seeing some of the supporting cast in such clarity - 'Madame' Fangio, Gilberte Thirion, Jacques Swaters, Uhlenhaut etc. I suspect this is a film I'll watch many times.


Edited by Tim Murray, 24 August 2013 - 07:59.


#2175 Alan Cox

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Posted 24 August 2013 - 09:47

I'll stick up for your post - it's a great reminder of the old days of public road-racing. Ignore the Armco, and you could be on one of the old classic circuits..

Anyone prepared to throw a modern GP2 car up a classic road course in that manner deserves high praise from crusty old die-hards
Worth watching a few more of David Hauser's runs - modern single-seater, narrow road, the odd vestige of Armco, rock faces, stone houses, bright sunlight to heavy shade, tight hairpins, the spirit of road-racing lives on in Europe



 

Spa 55

A gem indeed. Does anyone know if this was ever released on video/DVD?

#2176 Barry Boor

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Posted 24 August 2013 - 10:28

Well, blow me if Sky Sports F.1 aren't showing that very same Spa 1955 film at this very moment.



#2177 Alan Cox

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Posted 24 August 2013 - 10:35

Since my last post, I see that the Spa film was uploaded to YouTube by Shell. Presumably it has surfaced recently and they have restored it. It's to be hoped that it will be released for sale to interested punters

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Posted 24 August 2013 - 10:56

Well, blow me if Sky Sports F.1 aren't showing that very same Spa 1955 film at this very moment.

And Ted claims never to have heard of Engelbert Tyres! And he's supposedly a technical expert? :lol: 



#2179 Barry Boor

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Posted 24 August 2013 - 14:29

Yes, but a YOUNG technical expert.



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#2180 Michael Ferner

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Posted 24 August 2013 - 22:58

 

Excellent!



#2181 LittleChris

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Posted 26 August 2013 - 21:37

A modern in-car lap of the old Solitude circuit except for the reforested section between Frauenkreuz and Dreispitz.

 

 

Easy to understand why Phil Hill claimed that the series of esses down the Mahdental valley were more difficult to learn than the whole of the Nordschleife !!


Edited by LittleChris, 26 August 2013 - 22:04.


#2182 Emery0323

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Posted 26 August 2013 - 22:26

 

Here's Spa 1958 - In Color, but not as sharp as the Shell film from 1955

 



#2183 raceannouncer2003

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Posted 27 August 2013 - 05:42

Here's Spa 1958 - In Color, but not as sharp as the Shell film from 1955

 

 

Just wondering why Brooks was #48, Lewis-Evans #50, etc. at the start of practice.  I don't think they had these numbers at the race preceding this one.

 

Vince H.



#2184 Barry Boor

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Posted 27 August 2013 - 05:53

Vince, we've got to the bottom of this one some time ago.

 

We are told that the Spa organisers used to do this so that pirate programme printers could not produce last minute rogue programmes as the actual race numbers wouldn't be applied to the cars until race morning.  The 1955 film confirms this practice.

 

Presumably the official programmes were printed in advance with the correct numbers.

 

Seems to me that anyone could have obtained one of these and copied the numbers but maybe not.



#2185 raceannouncer2003

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Posted 28 August 2013 - 06:26

Barry,

 

Thanks, that explains it.  "...pirate programme printers..."???  So if I came to practice and qualifying at Spa in 1955, I wouldn't know who was who?  (Sort of like today's F1 races...they have numbers now, but many are still hard to read).

 

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#2186 Odseybod

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Posted 28 August 2013 - 08:16

pirate programme printers

 

Aaaa-haarrrr, slip me a dubloon and I'll give 'e one of my fine programmes, Jim lad.

 

Oh OK, maybe not.



#2187 nicanary

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Posted 28 August 2013 - 09:20

Aaaa-haarrrr, slip me a dubloon and I'll give 'e one of my fine programmes, Jim lad.

 

Oh OK, maybe not.

I believe there actually IS a "speak like a pirate day", in the outside world that is.



#2188 Allan Lupton

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Posted 28 August 2013 - 17:28

I believe there actually IS a "speak like a pirate day", in the outside world that is.

and they'd all speak like Robert Newton (as Long John Silver) did in "Treasure Island" as that's where "pirate speak" comes from I understand.

What's more "Newton has become the "patron saint" of the annual International Talk Like a Pirate Day on 19 September" according to Wikipedia.



#2189 jj2728

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Posted 29 August 2013 - 00:35

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#2190 RDV

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Posted 06 September 2013 - 18:30

Not a mere passenger...



#2191 john winfield

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Posted 18 September 2013 - 12:20

I had been looking for some footage of the wet 1974 Race of Champions and found this, a strange, bizarrely edited compilation, one that challenges our traditional understanding of time. And space. There's a bit of Kyalami in there too, I think.  All the same, good to watch, so thank you archivodichiara:

 

http://www.youtube.c...h?v=o1c-KE-U9-Q



#2192 alansart

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Posted 18 September 2013 - 18:13

I had been looking for some footage of the wet 1974 Race of Champions and found this, a strange, bizarrely edited compilation, one that challenges our traditional understanding of time. And space. There's a bit of Kyalami in there too, I think.  All the same, good to watch, so thank you archivodichiara:

 

http://www.youtube.c...h?v=o1c-KE-U9-Q

 

I watched that race from between Druids and Bottom Bend. Unfortunately my camera didn't survive the monsoon but I salvaged some pics  :)

 

 

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#2193 Graham Clayton

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Posted 20 September 2013 - 11:03

Formula 3 Daily Express Final at Crystal Palace in 1970:

 


Edited by Graham Clayton, 20 September 2013 - 11:04.


#2194 nicanary

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Posted 20 September 2013 - 11:35

Formula 3 Daily Express Final at Crystal Palace in 1970:

 

Very apposite. Ignoring the "incident" - just how good was the old F3 screamer racing. eh? Wonderful days.



#2195 alansart

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Posted 20 September 2013 - 12:31

Very apposite. Ignoring the "incident" - just how good was the old F3 screamer racing. eh? Wonderful days.

 

F3 was fabulous in those days as was Crystal Palace. I do miss the old place. I think I went to every car meeting there in it's last few years of operation  :)



#2196 Michael Ferner

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Posted 20 September 2013 - 13:38

Formula 3 Daily Express Final at Crystal Palace in 1970:

 

Excellent! :)



#2197 pete53

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Posted 20 September 2013 - 15:37

F3 was fabulous in those days as was Crystal Palace. I do miss the old place. I think I went to every car meeting there in it's last few years of operation  :)

Agreed. I never tire of watching that race. I was there that day and also attended nearly all the car meetings from 1963 till the end in 1972. It was just a shame that after following the battle for 2nd place throughout that race the camera missed the "action" at South Tower on the last lap.



#2198 Bloggsworth

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Posted 20 September 2013 - 16:33

I wonder if Dave Walker has ever watched that and wondered where did it all go wrong. It always seemed as if, on stepping into an F1 car, his talent evaporated.



#2199 Graham Clayton

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Posted 22 September 2013 - 00:18

I have posted this on the "YouTube" thread in the Motorcycle Nostalgia forum, but it is so good that I think it deserves a wider audience.

 

An hour long compilation of some of the best speedway races of all time:

 

http://youtu.be/vL252kNh4mo


Edited by Graham Clayton, 22 September 2013 - 00:20.


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#2200 Emery0323

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Posted 22 September 2013 - 02:26

Here are 8mm home movies of the 1971 Watkins Glen 6 Hour race.  The quality is rather poor, but I'm not aware of any professional-quality footage of this race.

 

it is historically significant, since it was the final World Manufacturers Championship race for the famous 5-liter sports cars like the  Porsche 917, Ferrari 512, etc.  It's also Jo Siffert's final Endurance Race in a Porsche before his death a few months later at Brands Hatch.

 

The Ferrari 712 appears briefly at the beginning - Presumably taken during Saturday practice for  the Can-Am cars prior to the Endurance Race.

 

At around the 5:00 minute mark, the Can-Am Cars appear, so that footage is likely from the  Sunday Can-Am race. I believe there's an old professionally-done TV broadcast of that event circulating on the web which as commentary from Jeff Scott and Stirling Moss.

 


Edited by Emery0323, 22 September 2013 - 02:32.