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#8951 Russell Burrows

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Posted 16 August 2013 - 19:52

http://www.bbc.co.uk...reland/22987136

Video of 1968 Ulster 125 & 350 races. The BBC give a lot of prominace to Ago, but Read & Ivy feature more than him, along with a lot of the 60's circus.

Thanks Tonka, previously seen the edited 350 only version.

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#8952 Russell Burrows

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Posted 17 August 2013 - 11:47

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How's about this bloke ?

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#8953 picblanc

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Posted 17 August 2013 - 12:37

Irish chap? a harp symbol on his lid?

#8954 picblanc

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Posted 17 August 2013 - 12:39

Tony McGurk?

#8955 tonyed

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Posted 17 August 2013 - 14:32

250 proddy Honda CB72 (or perhaps 305 CB77) but by the style of the leathers late 60s early 70s which is abit late for the CB72/77 and the silencers and forks don't look right. So I am going to take a shot in the dark and say I haven't got a clue unless it's Declan Doyle on a Norton 88 on 1967.

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#8956 Herr Wankel

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Posted 17 August 2013 - 15:24

250 proddy Honda CB72 (or perhaps 305 CB77) but by the style of the leathers late 60s early 70s which is abit late for the CB72/77 and the silencers and forks don't look right. So I am going to take a shot in the dark and say I haven't got a clue unless it's Declan Doyle on a Norton 88 on 1967.


Its a Dommie, Tony

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#8957 Russell Burrows

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Posted 17 August 2013 - 16:26

It is Declan Doyle, in the '67 proddy race. Well done Tony.... :well: I think it is a 500 88. I suspect its the same red painted example he used regularly at Brands a few years ealier. Didn't someone on here tell us that Declan was his dad and that he now lived on the Island ?

#8958 tonyed

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Posted 17 August 2013 - 16:28

Its a Dommie, Tony

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Funny :clap: That is what a Norton 88 :up: is as per my response to it perhaps being Declan Doyle in the 1967 production 500 TT :confused: I had dismissed the Honda approach earlier. :smoking: As I am now proven to be correct.
We are the champions, we are the champions (getting carried away here being a Spurs supporter and The Arse loosing to the relegation favorites :eek: :eek: :eek: :eek: :eek: :wave: :rotfl: :rotfl: :rotfl: )

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#8959 Russell Burrows

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Posted 17 August 2013 - 16:41

Funny :clap: That is what a Norton 88 :up: is as per my response to it perhaps being Declan Doyle in the 1967 production 500 TT :confused: I had dismissed the Honda approach earlier. :smoking: As I am now proven to be correct.
We are the champions, we are the champions (getting carried away here being a Spurs supporter and The Arse loosing to the relegation favorites :eek: :eek: :eek: :eek: :eek: :wave: :rotfl: :rotfl: :rotfl: )

Do you remember him on the red bike ?

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Posted 17 August 2013 - 18:59

Lots wrong for Honda brake plate wrong side ,forks wrong.

#8961 Robin127

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Posted 18 August 2013 - 00:41

It is Declan Doyle, in the '67 proddy race. Well done Tony.... :well: I think it is a 500 88. I suspect its the same red painted example he used regularly at Brands a few years ealier. Didn't someone on here tell us that Declan was his dad and that he now lived on the Island ?


That would be Brendan Doyle, who was pretty useful himself, went by the name of "Kerrowmoar"(sp) here.


#8962 Russell Burrows

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Posted 18 August 2013 - 13:18

That would be Brendan Doyle, who was pretty useful himself, went by the name of "Kerrowmoar"(sp) here.

Ah yes, the very fella, thanks.

#8963 Bjorn Kjer

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Posted 09 October 2013 - 08:35

Don Cox' book Circus Life is just great for thew period 1949-1960 !

#8964 Lothar

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Posted 13 October 2013 - 17:04

Hi all

 

I dared to write a book about the post war BMW Rennsport motorcycle RS 54 and Family which will be 60 years old next year. It will also be ist 60. year of its first world Championship in sidecar racing, its 40. year of its last world title and some more anniversaries to celebrate.

 

It is a dual language Version in German and English, has 144 pages, size A 4, 120 fotos, hardcover. The price is 29 Euros plus ca. 8 Euros shipping and fees abroad. Available from me.

 

For more info have a look at:

http://www.bmw-veter...cid=13&pdid=154

and:

http://www.bmw-veter...cid=23&pdid=188

or:

http://www.classic-m...orrad-1954-2014

 

Or ask me directly

l.mildebrath@gmx.de

 

Enjoy!

 

Lothar


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#8965 dommieracer

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Posted 19 October 2013 - 21:47

Well it's been a long time since i was last on the forum. I know its a poor pic but i will load better ones tomorrow of the Domieracer.

http://www.flickr.co...06/10369177733/  

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#8966 Classicpics

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Posted 26 October 2013 - 17:27

A few pics I found today, pretty obvious who they are. Just thought I'd share them. Poor quality I know. Box brownie I guess...
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#8967 Classicpics

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Posted 26 October 2013 - 17:32

This is how Mallory used to be when I was a lad.

 

 

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In fact here's me when I was a lad, with my uncle Bill Watson, who was ISDT rider with the Panther works team.
 

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#8968 Classicpics

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Posted 26 October 2013 - 17:39

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This one I have no idea who it is, I guess it's Clive Wormleighton presenting the trophy. About 1958ish, that's my guess.
 

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#8969 GD66

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Posted 26 October 2013 - 22:17

Could it be a young Dan Shorey ? Good old pics with great atmosphere, thanks for sharing.



#8970 GD66

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Posted 26 October 2013 - 22:24

Can anyone with a 1966 TT programme help? Trying to i.d. the rider of bike 85, pushing off at the start of the '66 Senior with #86 Neville Landrebe.

 

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#8971 larryd

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Posted 27 October 2013 - 00:00

Dave (?) Lloyd from Canada, Glenn



#8972 GD66

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Posted 27 October 2013 - 00:22

You beauty ! Thanks, Larry.



#8973 Lothar

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Posted 27 October 2013 - 09:56

Classicpics from Mallory:

Thanks a lot! Nice fotos!

Sidecar nr. 6 seems to be Scheidegger himself. I don't recognize the Person with helmet behind him.

Sidecar nr.1 seems to be Deubel's with Emil Hoerner at it and Pip Harris' sidecar nr. 9 in the rear.

 

Let's have more of those fotos, please!

 

Lothar



#8974 Bernard

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Posted 28 October 2013 - 17:11

Lothar    maybe Horst Burkhardt ?



#8975 briers

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Posted 29 October 2013 - 09:44

Hi there Briers,
After reading all about your uncle's racing in SA I went out of my way to see him when he came to Europe in 1960. Before racing in the 250 TT he appeared at Mallory, Oulton Park. He had a lurid style which got the boys talking at Mallory where he was taking to the grass. He was one of the characters the sport needed.

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Thanks for the ID of Ian Goddard on the Bultaco at Mallory, 1962, I would not have sussed him.
Roy :rotfl:

I have not been on the site for a long time, see there is a picture link but it does not work, please could you send me the pic or another link, thanks



#8976 Continental Circus

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Posted 29 October 2013 - 10:34

Hi Briers and all you guys who keep this 1949-1968 going.

I have a problem with the IT so if you could contact me by PM I will send my photo by e-mail.

To all you guys that put your fantastic input on this site many thanks, You keep an old guy interested in our great sport. :wave:

Roy :wave: 



#8977 Lothar

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Posted 01 November 2013 - 15:36

Bernard: Scheidegger at Mallory

 

If it is H. Burkhardt those Fotos were taken between 1957 and 1961



#8978 drumwrecker

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Posted 01 November 2013 - 20:02

We christened Scheidegger Schitts Friedegger

And remember the commentator at Brands Calling Floian Camathius  Cam-a-tius.

The things we remember. Good time were had.



#8979 Continental Circus

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Posted 02 November 2013 - 17:29

Hi Drumwrecker,

I remember a car commentator calling him  Florian Cam-a Tius. This tradition is carried on by the BBC half whit Steve Parrish with his Hector Bar-Berra, everyone else call him Hector Barbera.

Harry Carpenter summed these so called experts as the definition of gross incompetence- 144 BBC sports commentators.

Roy :confused: 



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Posted 02 November 2013 - 18:15

They can't hold a candle to that half-wit Burnicle, I remember Jamie Whitham pulling him up over Pierre 'Gorgio' Bontempi, asking him if he'd met his uncle Gorg. 



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Posted 02 November 2013 - 19:46

Sorry , but the most annoying has to be the link on Eurosport , the nonentity that is Tony Carter , now there is someone with the personality of a boil , who truly deserves a good slap with a wet fish , talking about Kawazzzzzzaki's and the like , pass me the sick bucket please  :o



#8982 serafini

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Posted 02 November 2013 - 22:02

Hi Drumwrecker,

I remember a car commentator calling him  Florian Cam-a Tius. This tradition is carried on by the BBC half whit Steve Parrish with his Hector Bar-Berra, everyone else call him Hector Barbera.

Harry Carpenter summed these so called experts as the definition of gross incompetence- 144 BBC sports commentators.

Roy :confused: 

I do not speak any of the languages of Switzerland but I have heard some Swiss refer to him as Cam -a - tius. Is it a German pronunciation?



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Posted 03 November 2013 - 09:09

I do not speak any of the languages of Switzerland but I have heard some Swiss refer to him as Cam -a - tius. Is it a German pronunciation?

 

So it is



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Posted 03 November 2013 - 12:21

I forgot that so called expert Jack Carbuncle who referred to Bill Doran as Bill Durran, where do they dig these people from'

Roy



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Posted 04 November 2013 - 17:38

Personally I have no problem with Burnacle, he's more of a fun interlude, its Carter who I cant listen to, he tries to talk with authority when he's merely a wannabe track day god who somehow stumbled into the job and talks like he's a GP veteran

 

It's quite funny watching the expressions on the faces of the guy's who HAVE been there and got the T shirts like Foggy and Whitham etc when Carter is blathering on about stuff to them, you can see they really want to say 'hey mate you're talking complete sh*t' but luckily for him the camera's and appearance fees keep them in check. 



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Posted 05 November 2013 - 01:39

Boys and girls,

A couple of questions for you knowledgeable lot...

One, does anyone know if a really good interview with Alan Shepherd appeared in any of the comics? I've got the two-parter Mike Nicks did with him for Classic Racer, but surely there must be more...

Two, anybody know what the Silverstone outright bike lap record was before we stole away into the night at the end of 1965?

Three, does anyone know how Derek Minter is these days?

 

Thanks in anticipation...



#8987 serafini

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Posted 05 November 2013 - 08:50

Boys and girls,

A couple of questions for you knowledgeable lot...

One, does anyone know if a really good interview with Alan Shepherd appeared in any of the comics? I've got the two-parter Mike Nicks did with him for Classic Racer, but surely there must be more...

Two, anybody know what the Silverstone outright bike lap record was before we stole away into the night at the end of 1965?

Three, does anyone know how Derek Minter is these days?

 

Thanks in anticipation...

Regarding Alan Shepherd: Classic MotorCycle Jan 93 and Classic Bike July 99.



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Posted 05 November 2013 - 10:27

Regarding Alan Shepherd: Classic MotorCycle Jan 93 and Classic Bike July 99.

 

Lovely. Thank you, Sire.



#8989 Classicpics

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Posted 05 November 2013 - 19:13

Classicpics from Mallory:

Thanks a lot! Nice fotos!

Sidecar nr. 6 seems to be Scheidegger himself. I don't recognize the Person with helmet behind him.

Sidecar nr.1 seems to be Deubel's with Emil Hoerner at it and Pip Harris' sidecar nr. 9 in the rear.

 

Let's have more of those fotos, please!

 

Lothar

I think BMW 9 is Otto K├Âlle



#8990 Oilman

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Posted 06 November 2013 - 09:27

Boys and girls,

A couple of questions for you knowledgeable lot...

One, does anyone know if a really good interview with Alan Shepherd appeared in any of the comics? I've got the two-parter Mike Nicks did with him for Classic Racer, but surely there must be more...

Two, anybody know what the Silverstone outright bike lap record was before we stole away into the night at the end of 1965?

Three, does anyone know how Derek Minter is these days?

 

Thanks in anticipation...

Regarding Derek'The Mint' he is currently residing in a care home but hoping to return home very soon. He is still very interesting to talk to on a good day. I hope to visit him next week.



#8991 Paul Rochdale

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Posted 06 November 2013 - 09:55

Oh, I didn't know that. I visited Derek at his Blean home a while ago and he seemed quite well then. I understand that his Darley Moor crash (his last ride) may have been a minor heart attack or something like that. I must drop the great man a letter. When I was a teenager in the 60s, he was my hero.



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Posted 06 November 2013 - 10:18

Regarding Derek'The Mint' he is currently residing in a care home but hoping to return home very soon. He is still very interesting to talk to on a good day. I hope to visit him next week.

 

Much obliged, Oilman. Good to know he's holding on there.



#8993 Russell Burrows

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Posted 13 November 2013 - 15:57

I have an inkling this is the the factory bike from around 68/9?   Lovely thing, regardless.

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#8994 Russell Burrows

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Posted 14 November 2013 - 15:09

In case anyone's pining for a www....

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#8995 tonyed

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Posted 14 November 2013 - 17:32

Looks to me, from the weather, the sun soaked spectators and the density of the shadows that it is an (early year) Easter weekend meeting at Darley Moor.

 

The helmet motif of No 70 is surely the 'Dancing Whippet' of Ashbourne so famously lyrically 'painted' in Sir Harry Lauders 1926 song 'Keep Right on to the End of the Pope Straight' his follow up hit to 'Its Nice to Wake Up in the Morning' which if my memory serves me right it never was at Darley 'Bleedin' Moor. 

 

Just a shot in the dark.

 

Should I win please donate the winnings to the Jimmy Shand Alchoholics support group.  


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#8996 Russell Burrows

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Posted 14 November 2013 - 21:20

Not a shot I recall seeing before now - nice one I thought.  Glencrutchery Road warm up?  Found it at the other place and as they routinely nick ours...... 

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#8997 fil2.8

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Posted 14 November 2013 - 22:10

That's a great piccie , Russ , haven't seen it before either  :up:   :wave:



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Posted 15 November 2013 - 19:27

In case anyone's pining for a www....

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Hi,

I will not answer this but it is a great nostalgic shot of the classic bike racing in the colonies. 

Pete



#8999 GD66

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Posted 15 November 2013 - 21:27

I have been battling to recall the rider in front, Errol Cowan chasing hard though.



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#9000 Tonka

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Posted 16 November 2013 - 02:23

Personally I have no problem with Burnacle, he's more of a fun interlude, its Carter who I cant listen to, he tries to talk with authority when he's merely a wannabe track day god who somehow stumbled into the job and talks like he's a GP veteran

 

It's quite funny watching the expressions on the faces of the guy's who HAVE been there and got the T shirts like Foggy and Whitham etc when Carter is blathering on about stuff to them, you can see they really want to say 'hey mate you're talking complete sh*t' but luckily for him the camera's and appearance fees keep them in check. 

 

A couple of season back, Carter was waffling away before a race and Burnicle's microphone had been left on.  My brother heard Burnicle say something along the lines of

"For ****'s sake how much more bollocks can that ginger c**t come out with".