Pedro Rodriguez Stanguellini FJ
Posted 11 December 2006 - 08:09
The car was sold by MOMO Corp to Ricardo Rodriguez and airfreighted to Mexico in Jan 11 1961 and driven by Pedro in FJ races on: 1/14/1961 at the Parilla-Autodroma Magdalena Mixiuhca. #10
Later races : I Primio Azteca on 9/3/61 at Ciudad Sahagun Industrial Park, Hidalgo, race #25 and then in the Primio de la Independencia-"Septima Carrera"- (GP de Mexico) Mexico City. #10
The stanguellini raced at Sahagun with a narrow (@100mm) light coloured stripe over a darker triangular flash tapering from the nose back to the windscreen.
Any Photos, information on the colour that the car raced in at this time are much appreciated.
Posted 11 December 2006 - 09:33
When Walt raced it, it was painted a bright mid-blue.
Posted 11 December 2006 - 14:13
Originally posted by Barry Boor
If the Momo Corp was anything to do with Alfred Momo, then this was almost certainly the car that was driven by Walter Hansgen.
When Walt raced it, it was painted a bright mid-blue.
I believe this is the car that you are refering to. Seated is Hangsen with Momo one side and Cunningham on the other! This was taken at Daytona.
Posted 11 December 2006 - 14:33
Picture from the Ade Ketchum Cllection - found in the book 'WALT HANSGEN' by Mike Argetsinger
Posted 11 December 2006 - 19:02
It is also interesting to note that there is no certainty that Walter Hansgen actually RACED the rear engined car picture above.
Unless anyone can confirm this?
Posted 11 December 2006 - 19:29
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Posted 11 December 2006 - 21:07
What a superb photograph!
Thank you, David...
Posted 11 December 2006 - 21:14
Posted 11 December 2006 - 21:59
It has sliding block rear end, "MOMO" shock conversion and ran with the wider and taller 13" borannis on the front. (Stanguellini were standard with 12"). Also wider 14" at the rear. The car was equiped with a five speed gearbox.
The car came to NZ about two years ago after spending all its life in Mexico.
It came to light that the original MOMO bill of sale and air manifest was still in Mexico . They show the sale of the car ( #198 ) to Ricardo Rodriguez. The documents had been given to the owner of Stanguellini #196, Pablo Gonzalez in Monterrey Mexico who very generously forwarded them to NZ.
There is a good chance the colours the car ran in were either; silver, white or dark blue as these are the colours that survive. Alais most of the surviving paint had been stripped from the remaining body parts. Dash was red.
Posted 11 December 2006 - 22:08
The car I was talking about was #189, though I may of course transposed the numbers in error
However, my notes have Pablo Gonzalez as owner of 198 in 2000
Does this mean two cars went from Mexico to NZ in the last year or so?
Or did Gonzalez own 196 and 198?
Or am I going completely bonkers?
(The initials of the owner of "my" 189 are NR)
Posted 11 December 2006 - 23:28
Posted 12 December 2006 - 00:50
NR.. thats me....Nigel (Hunter) Russell.
The other Mexican cars are:
196, Pablos car , run by Leonel M. Garza - Monterrey in 1961.
195, Guido Terzi 1961, car, restored by Alamo sports Tx, then to NY . Don't know where this is.
197, is with Kermit at Alamo sports cars.
The other Mexican driver of Stanguellinis was Juan Manuel Rullán. Did he drive 197?...or, apparantly there is one remaining chassis still in Mexico. Number ???
Lorenzo Bandini ran a Stanguellini in the I Carrerra Cd de Mexico early 1961, what the chassis number was or if the car went back to Italy I don't know. Here in lies another question.
Carlos Jaliffe recent released biography, will have a good photo of the 198 and 196 on the circuit racing in 1961. Its not in colour and is the best photo I have so far. Thanks to Carlos.
The car ran at the Mexican GP so there should be photos laying around, just a process of finding them.
Any leads to intenational photographers that would have been at the circuit that year?
Posted 12 December 2006 - 07:41
It saved them from having to strip the engine....
Posted 12 December 2006 - 07:43
I deliberately mentioned initials only in case you wanted to maintain your anonymity ;)
Matteo Panini in Italy owns a car alleged to be ex-Bandini, though whether or not it is the one that went to Mexico I don't know. And I don't know the number. He should be relatively easy to track down via google - or PM Graham Gauld
Posted 12 December 2006 - 12:24
Do you ever come back and visit?
I am surprised how few photos of the early racing days of the Rodriguez brothers are in circulation. I surpose most of the focus is on their racing outside of Mexico. NZ was lucky in having Jack Inwood photographing at the circuits. I can only hope he had a Mexican equivalent.
Posted 12 December 2006 - 12:45
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Posted 12 December 2006 - 13:35
I was thinking of the book "American Racing" that has a lot of pictures from that period, amongst them pictures of a Formula Junior race in Cuba (IIRC). I can check for the editor tonight when I return from work.
Posted 12 December 2006 - 20:06
Probably the best hope for a photo is by a visitor to the GP at the time.
I am fairly sure (not certain) that 198 was silver with a white stripe. What colour the underlying flash was I have no idea.
Are you able to post the photo of Terzi's stanguellini and George Koehnes ELVA?
Posted 12 December 2006 - 21:40
Here's the only picture in the book but the #2 car is a Stanguellini, following your description, it may help. The picture was taken in Cuba 1960.
copyright : Tom Burnside
The book says you can contact Tom Burnside : firstname.lastname@example.org for more info about the pictures.
Posted 13 December 2006 - 08:59
On car #2, below the "LASO" there is a circular logo, could these be the wings and body of the Eagle on the Scuderia Rodriguez badge?
Posted 13 December 2006 - 10:42