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#1 bschenker

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Posted 15 January 2007 - 21:06

Contrary to the received indication that the motor of Cooper ATS have been mounted in a chassis of a Lotus 30 after the incident on the Steinbockrennen 1968, the photos shows clearly that it must be an other Lotus.
I do not know all Lotus models, me seems that the 30 were a two-seater. Someone knows the type of that model.
The job executed from Fritz Baumann, and also devious he this car was state sold to France.
For the moment what I discovered.

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#2 Gary C

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Posted 15 January 2007 - 21:24

hmmm, quasi-Gold Leaf livery...............

#3 Vitesse2

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Posted 15 January 2007 - 21:30

Looks like a 41 to me, but that's an awful big lump to put in the back of it.

According to this post at 10/10ths there is (was?) a 41 in France but apparently fitted with a 1500cc ATS. Right car, wrong engine size?

#4 David M. Kane

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Posted 15 January 2007 - 22:27

What a stange marriage.

#5 Gerard Gamand

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Posted 16 January 2007 - 10:54

Yes, it's a Lotus 41 Formula 3 chassis but why put a such engine in it ?
Fantastic pic that I have never seen before
this thing could be in France ??

#6 Stephen W

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Posted 16 January 2007 - 11:28

Originally posted by Gerard Gamand
Yes, it's a Lotus 41 Formula 3 chassis but why put a such engine in it ?


My guess would be along the lines of ....

Low frontal area.

Cheap to buy second-hand rolling chassis.

More balls than brains!

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#7 Allen Brown

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Posted 16 January 2007 - 13:40

Most interesting! Yet another thread keeping me from what I should be doing :)

I've emailed Lawrence Sufryn to see if this was the car he owned.

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#8 David McKinney

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Posted 16 January 2007 - 14:44

Unlikely there were two Lotus 41s with ATS engines :cool:
This seems to a 41C originally used in hillclimbs with a twincam engine in 1967 and 1968
Len Selby (UK) was offering it for sale two or three years ago

#9 David M. Kane

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Posted 16 January 2007 - 16:27

Well it would make sense as a hillclimb car.

#10 Stephen W

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Posted 16 January 2007 - 16:43

Originally posted by David McKinney
Unlikely there were two Lotus 41s with ATS engines :cool:
This seems to a 41C originally used in hillclimbs with a twincam engine in 1967 and 1968
Len Selby (UK) was offering it for sale two or three years ago


Anyone know the chassis number? :rotfl:

#11 bschenker

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Posted 16 January 2007 - 18:49

New information:

Lotus 41
First owner: Midland Team / Walter Habegger (CH)
Second owner: Bruno Frey (CH)
Third owner: Gildo Guidi (CH) last owner of the Cooper ATS F1

Gildo Guidi says the name Sufryn hi never heard.

#12 Allen Brown

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Posted 16 January 2007 - 19:00

Originally posted by Stephen W


Anyone know the chassis number? :rotfl:

41-FL-29. Pay attention Steve :)

#13 Stephen W

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Posted 17 January 2007 - 08:56

Originally posted by Allen Brown
41-FL-29. Pay attention Steve :)


Sorry teacher! :blush: