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[Boniver]

Daimler (D) produced from 1898 "Daimler Rennwagen Phoenix"

In Itala drive Count Biscaretti, Giovanni Agnelli and Luigi Storero in 1898 to 1900 with a
Phenix or Phënix.

Was this a Daimler Phoenix of was Phenix a other manafacturer.

[David McKinney]

Usually spelt Phénix, I would have thought

[Boniver]

Verona-Brescia-Mantua-Verona

14 March 1899 - 161 km

1 Giovanni Agnelli Phénix 2 seater 5h03m23, 31.880 kph
2 Louis Bouvier Bollée 5h42m37
3 Virginio Benedetti Prinetti-Stucchi 2 seater 6h03m27
4 Giacomo Miari Miari-Giusti 6h58m12
5 Edoardo Corinaldi Miari-Giusti 7h38m38

[Hans Etzrodt]

Phénix was a small French car manufacturer from 1912-1914

Phoenix was a British car manufacturer starting in 1902-1904

Phönix (Phoenix in English literature) was made by Daimler in Germany as of 1897 till about 1900. This car raced as late as 1902 in touring events.

I would think the winning car of the 14 March 1899 Verona-Brescia-Mantua-Verona contest was a Daimler product.

[robert dick]

Phénix (in this case) :
tri- and quadricycles produced by Luigi Storero in Turin, Corso Valentino no. 37, in 1898 and -99 - powered by De Dion single-cylinder engines built under license.
Storero, Agnelli and Biscaretti were friends.