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#1 24h(i)story

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Posted 17 February 2007 - 15:19

Hello,

can anyone help with a complete list of results?

Only find this @ TNF

Year: 1966 Date:
Rally: RAC Rally

1 # 11 Bengt Soderstrom/Gunnar Palm Ford Lotus Cortina
2 Harry Kallstrom / R.HaakansonBMC Mini-Cooper S
3 Tom Trana / S.Andreasson Volvo 122
4 Rauno Aaltonen BMC Mini-Cooper S
5 Tony Fall BMC Mini-Cooper S
6 Lars Damberg Renault 1300
7 Ove Andersson Lancia Fulvia Coupe

147 entries, 144 starters, 63 finishers - and the question: was Clark amongst them?

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#2 jarama

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Posted 17 February 2007 - 16:07

Originally posted by 24h(i)story

can anyone help with a complete list of results?
Year: 1966 Date:
Rally: RAC Rally

1 # 11 Bengt Soderstrom/Gunnar Palm Ford Lotus Cortina
2 Harry Kallstrom / R.HaakansonBMC Mini-Cooper S
3 Tom Trana / S.Andreasson Volvo 122
4 Rauno Aaltonen BMC Mini-Cooper S
5 Tony Fall BMC Mini-Cooper S
6 Lars Damberg Renault 1300
7 Ove Andersson Lancia Fulvia Coupe

147 entries, 144 starters, 63 finishers - and the question: was Clark amongst them?



1, #11, Bengt Söderström / Gunnar Palm, Ford Lotus-Cortina
2, #66, Harry Källström / Ragnvald Håkansson, Austin Cooper S 1275
3, #19, Tom Trana / Sölve Andreasson, Volvo 122S B18 Amazon
4, #18, Rauno Altonen & Henry Liddon, Morris Cooper S 1275
5, #21, Tony Fall / Mike Wood, Morris Cooper S 1275
6, #60, Jars Dåmberg / Rolf Riggare, Renault 8 Gordini
7, #17, Ove Andersson / John Davenport, Lancia Fulvia Coupé
8, #69, Anders Gullberg / Lars Helmér, Opel Rekord Sprint?
9, #25, Pat Moss-Carlsson / Elizabeth Nyström, Saab 96 Sport
10, #96, Sylvia Österberg / Ingalill Edenring, Renault 8 Gordini


On the Clark question, I suppose you're asking for Jim, not Roger. Anyway, both of them were DNF:
#8, Jim Clark / Brian Melia, Ford Lotus-Cortina
#31, Roger Clark / Jim Porter, Ford Lotus-Cortina


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Posted 17 February 2007 - 16:38

Thank you Carles,

yes, you're right - didn't thought on the second Clark, Roger Albert.

BTW: I'am surprised about the good results for the Ladies-crews on 9th & 10th.

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Posted 17 February 2007 - 16:56

Originally posted by jarama




On the Clark question, I suppose you're asking for Jim, not Roger. Anyway, both of them were DNF:
#8, Jim Clark / Brian Melia, Ford Lotus-Cortina
#31, Roger Clark / Jim Porter, Ford Lotus-Cortina


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I remember watching the tv coverage of this event, and of course, all cameras were on Jim Clark, he made it look so easy, whilst travelling so very fast on "blind" unpractised Special Stages, he would have been a champion in this sport had he so wished, he was just so amazingly talented!

I still have fond memories of Roger in the Cossack RS1800 on the '75 Welsh International, which he duly won and further down the results (8th or 9th IIRC) a certain Ari Vatanen in a battered old Ascona complete with multi coloured paintwork!

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Posted 17 February 2007 - 19:58

It may seem sacrilege (and I am a great fan of him as a driver and a person) but I do not believe Jim Clark's 66 RAC Rally performance was all that special. The Lotus Cortina had finally and briefly (over 2 years later than it should have, thanks to Colin Chapman's original rear suspension) become the dominant rally car. I also consider Roger Clark was at his peak then, not later.
RC dominated the rally before making a mistake. Vic Elford, not a fan of the RAC Rally, could equally have dominated in a Lotus Cortina, just as he did earlier in the year on the Coupe des Alpes but he had an engine problem from the start. Bengt Soderstrom (the slowest but most reliable of the works Cortinas) won easily. Jim Clark had tested extensively under RC's guidance. Doing very well, but never actually looking a winner, then throwing it off the road (twice) is perhaps the anticipated outcome. Put that together with BMC making a too conservative camshaft choice on all but the Makinen car after snow in 65. The R8 Gordini was also coming good as a forest car but all the oposition lacked Ford's grunt.
The Mk1 Cortina won the 67 Swedish but the advertising then required the Mk2 to be used, which was never as good...

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Posted 17 February 2007 - 20:02

Originally posted by 24h(i)story
Thank you Carles,

BTW: I'am surprised about the good results for the Ladies-crews on 9th & 10th.



Wasn't that unusual back in the 50ies/60ies... There are a lot of examples of female crews ending the most arduous rallys in the top-10... or winning them, such as Rosemary Smith ('65 Tulpenrally) or the same Pat Moss ('60 Liège or '62 Deutschland, if my memory serves me right).

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Posted 17 February 2007 - 22:29

Pat Moss had finished much higher on other forest events previously too. Michele Mouton was not, in the opinion of many, the top female rally driver of all time...
Sylvia Osterberg is almost forgotten now but I think set a top time on one stage of the 66 RAC (rwd, engine over driven wheels, more power than the Rallye Imp...the R8 Gordini was a forest contender at that exact point in history).

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Posted 17 February 2007 - 22:54

Originally posted by RS2000
Pat Moss had finished much higher on other forest events previously too. Michele Mouton was not, in the opinion of many, the top female rally driver of all time...
Sylvia Osterberg is almost forgotten now but I think set a top time on one stage of the 66 RAC (rwd, engine over driven wheels, more power than the Rallye Imp...the R8 Gordini was a forest contender at that exact point in history).


I had forgotten about Syvia Osterberg, what car did she drive? Was it a works entry? Interesting to read Vic Elfords book, as he tired of the fragility of the Cortina and made the switch to Porsche, which as we all know, was a marriage made in heaven. Even though Clark J. threw the car off twice, I would still have loved to have seen him in the forests.

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Posted 17 February 2007 - 23:20

The Renaults were considered a works team. I don't know whether they simply selected all Scandanavian crews for that rally or whether it was actually a Swedish importer funded team in works colours. Hakan Linberg was the fastest driver I think (and ironically, Jars Damberg in one of the other R8s had previously made his name in a private Cortina). Sylvia Osterberg's R8 was second fastest on the first stage (which the BBC showed only a couple of hours after it happened).
Makinen (who had a puncture on the first stage, so did not show up in the fastest times) and Clark R. were in a class of their own (although, as mentioned previously, Elford was kept off the pace by engine problems from the very first stage - days later he was in Corsica asking Porsche where the spares were for his 911 and getting the answer "what spares?").