I am updating my Gold Star results from SCCSA timesheets for Mallala in 1964 and 1965. I had previously entered details from RCN, and had Dudley's BBM down as being powered by the rotary valved Holden, as featured in an article in Sports Car World in April 1960.
The official timesheets have him down in BBM 2 (possibly a new car?) in 1964, and in 1965 in a BBM Mercedes. I was hoping that somebody could shed some light on this please.
Dud Dansie's BBM Special
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David Shaw
, Feb 19 2007 23:02
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2Bob
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Posted 19 February 2007 - 23:46
I can provide email address to current owner of first BBM if you want - he may know. Email me if you want it David.
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Posted 20 February 2007 - 03:37
David,
I can throw a little bit of light on Dud Dansie’s BBM 1 and 2
(BBM = Bakewell Bridge Motors or more affectionately Bloody Big Monster!)
I spoke with a friend this morning who worked on the BBM 1 and he said that the car was originally bought by Dud with a 6 cylinder pushrod Holden engine. This was subsequently upgraded with a locally built Dunstan rotary valve head, fitted with a 671 GM supercharger and Stromberg 97 carb(s) running on alcohol.
The BBM 2 was a brand new car built by Doug Trengrove and was fitted with a 6 cylinder Mercedes 220 engine. Unfortunately he’s a bit vague on dates.
He did however give me the phone number of Dud’s main mechanic at the time if you need further information.
Kaydee
I can throw a little bit of light on Dud Dansie’s BBM 1 and 2
(BBM = Bakewell Bridge Motors or more affectionately Bloody Big Monster!)
I spoke with a friend this morning who worked on the BBM 1 and he said that the car was originally bought by Dud with a 6 cylinder pushrod Holden engine. This was subsequently upgraded with a locally built Dunstan rotary valve head, fitted with a 671 GM supercharger and Stromberg 97 carb(s) running on alcohol.
The BBM 2 was a brand new car built by Doug Trengrove and was fitted with a 6 cylinder Mercedes 220 engine. Unfortunately he’s a bit vague on dates.
He did however give me the phone number of Dud’s main mechanic at the time if you need further information.
Kaydee
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David Shaw
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Posted 20 February 2007 - 04:07
Thanks very much for the additional information kaydee. I have enough information now thanks to update the results. It must have been quite a beast!
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Ray Bell
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Posted 20 February 2007 - 05:15
Originally posted by kaydee
.....built by Doug Trengrove and was fitted with a 6 cylinder Mercedes 220 engine.....
This car ran, with supercharger, at the Eastern Creek meeting in December. Owned by a Kiwi these days.
kaydee... there's but one 'r' in 'Trengove'...
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Posted 20 February 2007 - 05:40
Ray,
As usual you are correct!
It looks like I'll not only have to watch my "p"s and "q"s but my "r"s as well!
Kaydee
As usual you are correct!
It looks like I'll not only have to watch my "p"s and "q"s but my "r"s as well!
Kaydee
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Ray Bell
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Posted 20 February 2007 - 05:42
Come up for the patterns for the twin cam heads for the SBF and all will be forgiven!
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kaydee
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Posted 20 February 2007 - 06:38
If only it were that easy! 
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David Shaw
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Posted 20 February 2007 - 06:43
Is that your idea of a twin cam head?
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Milan Fistonic
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Posted 07 March 2009 - 19:19
This is the BBM 2 with the Mercedes engine.
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Lee Nicolle
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Posted 07 March 2009 - 23:14
Fred Jeffries had that car I think direct from Dansie, he raced it at the opening meeting of AIR where from memory it exploded a clutch or flywheel. He raced it for a couple of years without much success.
I can remember Fred playing with it at work, at All Purpose Sands. Blasting up and down the access road.
I can remember Fred playing with it at work, at All Purpose Sands. Blasting up and down the access road.
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Lee Nicolle
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Posted 07 March 2009 - 23:16
There is a couple of Waggots [and rotary valves] here in Adelaide PM me for more.
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Posted 08 March 2009 - 01:48
It is owned and raced by Ken Williams - a Kiwi Mercedes man.
It is horrendous but Ken loves it - he had it, sans blower, at the Eastern Creek Tasman Revival in December 2006
It is horrendous but Ken loves it - he had it, sans blower, at the Eastern Creek Tasman Revival in December 2006
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Posted 08 March 2009 - 02:08
Anyone have any idea of which mercedes engine it was e.g M127 .M130,m180 etc ?
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Posted 11 March 2009 - 01:36
Originally posted by Ron B.
Anyone have any idea of which mercedes engine it was e.g M127 .M130,m180 etc ?
Here's another shot with a better view of the engine.
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Posted 11 March 2009 - 02:10
Looks like a 2.2 liter m130 ,AKA as a finny motor . Huge potential for tuning but the combustion chambers are a straight out the 1950's with a strange quench action..myself, I would probably have gone for a SE engine with injection. The engines themselves are incredibly heavy for the capacity,only a few kilos lighter than a mercedes V8.
This is a friends car in South Africa . A 230S racer.
This is a friends car in South Africa . A 230S racer.
