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#5601 launchpad

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Posted 07 July 2011 - 02:02

Niel Allen coming out of Creek, heading into the left-hander...

David Walker coming out of that left-hander and heading to the right-hander in all the other shots.


Hi Ray,
This one should be easy for you.
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I only scanned a few so I'll save them until I see what the other guys have....

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#5602 Wirra

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Posted 07 July 2011 - 02:24

Game #1. Lynton and Rod - 'I'll see your blue and white Walker Lotus 70 and raise you a redish Amon Lotus 70'.

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Game #2. 'I'll see Rod's waving Allen and raise it a pushed Allen'.
(I don't know if this is chassis #002 or #019, but it is due to reappear very soon.)

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Game #3. My chips are the new digital type so I don't think I'm eligible to play

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cue - Bruce Moxon and Clark Watson to enter game #3

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#5603 lyntonh

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Posted 07 July 2011 - 02:24

Hi Ray,
This one should be easy for you.
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I only scanned a few so I'll save them until I see what the other guys have....


Something's dragging on the road...

#5604 Ray Bell

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Posted 07 July 2011 - 02:53

Something certainly is...

Between Polo and Leger Corners, presumably taken just to show the dragging component?

Garrie Cooper in the 600D/E or whatever Repco V8.

#5605 Dale Harvey

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Posted 07 July 2011 - 03:05

Game #1. Lynton and Rod - 'I'll see your blue and white Walker Lotus 70 and raise you a redish Amon Lotus 70'.

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Game #2. 'I'll see Rod's waving Allen and raise it a pushed Allen'.
(I don't know if this is chassis #002 or #019, but it is due to reappear very soon.)

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Game #3. My chips are the new digital type so I don't think I'm eligible to play

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cue - Bruce Moxon and Clark Watson to enter game #3


Ian Ross Elfin 600 Repco at the Tasman Revival Eastern Creek.

Dale.

#5606 Wirra

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Posted 07 July 2011 - 03:38

...Between Polo and Leger Corners...

More likely coming out of the Esses and on the run up to the crossing, or possibly entering the Esses.

#5607 Wirra

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Posted 07 July 2011 - 03:45

Ian Ross Elfin 600 Repco at the Tasman Revival Eastern Creek.

Dale.

Dale - Is that the original Cooper chassis or a replica?

#5608 Ray Bell

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Posted 07 July 2011 - 03:45

Originally posted by Wirra
More likely coming out of the Esses and on the run up to the crossing.....


You're right...

It did have me a bit tossed that the parked cars were on uneven ground, that explains it! Though there's more cars there than there were generally.

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Posted 07 July 2011 - 08:59

Game #1. Lynton and Rod - 'I'll see your blue and white Walker Lotus 70 and raise you a redish Amon Lotus 70'.

Game #2. 'I'll see Rod's waving Allen and raise it a pushed Allen'.
(I don't know if this is chassis #002 or #019, but it is due to reappear very soon.)

Game #3. My chips are the new digital type so I don't think I'm eligible to play

cue - Bruce Moxon and Clark Watson to enter game #3


Wirra, I have to compliment you on a good, bold, and colourful bid.....

This is getting ridiculous! (but it is fun!)
Here is my winning hand.
With the first Amon pic, these give me two pairs. Two Amon/two Gardner.

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Let's just enjoy each others great photos. I am impressed to see you all were around to enjoy the real thing and the memories. Those who weren't there
surely appreciate our pics.
Rod


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Posted 07 July 2011 - 09:50

Just brilliant, fellas; photos we did not see "over here" in period either at all or certainly not in such clear detail.
Roger Lund

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#5611 Ray Bell

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Posted 07 July 2011 - 12:29

Especially those shots taken by Rod in the middle of Homestead Corner...

Very rare, and they complement some of John Ellacott's pics taken from the outside very nicely.

And Rod, Roger has been to the Farm, but only very recently, so he knows something about the place.

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Posted 07 July 2011 - 13:09

hehe...Sensational guys! some fantastic shots! Thanks so much, but don't stop now - there's sheep-stations riding on this....

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Posted 07 July 2011 - 13:15

Dale - Is that the original Cooper chassis or a replica?



It's an original. the original Repco Brabham powered V8 type 830 engine 600C, frame no. 6908 completed around Jan 1969 - highly likely to be the one that featured in an article in Australian Autosportsman a fair while back, the second 600 C that ended up with a type 740 RB V8 was Super Mac's car that started life with a Climax engine. The third 600 to have a RB V8 (back to a type 830) was Garrie's second 600 (a D variant this time) completed around February 1970.

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#5614 Ray Bell

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Posted 07 July 2011 - 14:09

So which one was Granton Harrison's?

A key factor in one of our stories in the F5000 book, actually...

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Posted 07 July 2011 - 14:23

Especially those shots taken by Rod in the middle of Homestead Corner...

Very rare, and they complement some of John Ellacott's pics taken from the outside very nicely.

And Rod, Roger has been to the Farm, but only very recently, so he knows something about the place.


Thanks Roger and Ray, I tried to obtain different angles to achive a composite picture showing aspects of the driver track and or the car.
The 246 Ferrari deserves an unusal treatment at a great track. Homestead from the outside was great too. I must have stood near to the other TNF'ers often.
So just another one...just before Homestead and in front of a temporary grandstand.

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Posted 07 July 2011 - 14:24

So which one was Granton Harrison's?

A key factor in one of our stories in the F5000 book, actually...


I'm pretty sure frame #6908, the first 600C, the Ian Ross car - was Granton's. (And so is Brian Lear's register) - I'll dig up the article on it over the weekend and mail it to you Ray, not that it will shed any light on Granton's stewardship of it - as it's an article detailing it's near completion, but interesting none the less.

Cheers

James

#5617 Dale Harvey

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Posted 07 July 2011 - 22:21

[quote name='Dale Harvey' date='Mar 6 2008, 08:42' post='3032202']
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Here is a shot I posted years ago. I think it will fit in with some of the recent shots from Warwick Farm.

Dale.

#5618 Wirra

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Posted 07 July 2011 - 22:30

I'm out - I only have a pair of Gardners

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I wonder if we could regard this S Fryer shot as a full house!

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#5619 Lee Nicolle

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Posted 07 July 2011 - 23:21

These early pics of 5000s reminded me of an article in the curent VHRR newsletter that Alan Hamilton has aquired the 2 M10Bs from Lyndon Reithmuller's estate. Evidently his own and KBs though both restored to original Mclaren specs. He hopes to have them on track soon with Alfie driving one and ? driving the other. Plus some drive days for himself and associates.
These will be very welcome to the ranks I am sure.

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Posted 08 July 2011 - 12:46

Ian Ross Elfin 600 Repco at the Tasman Revival Eastern Creek.

Dale.


With another Ian looking on! :)

#5621 Wirra

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Posted 08 July 2011 - 22:39

These early pics of 5000s reminded me of an article in the curent VHRR newsletter that Alan Hamilton has aquired the 2 M10Bs from Lyndon Reithmuller's estate. Evidently his own and KBs though both restored to original Mclaren specs. He hopes to have them on track soon with Alfie driving one and ? driving the other. Plus some drive days for himself and associates.
These will be very welcome to the ranks I am sure.

Before leaving Reithmuller's workshop.

The ex-Hamilton, ex-Brown tub.
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The ex-Bartlett, ex-Cameron tub with new skins to reconstruct the engine pontoons with were removed at some stage to use the engine as a structural member.
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Posted 09 July 2011 - 01:54

An Amon
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and a Gary Campbell....for Eshe to drool over
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Both from the 1971 Warwick Farm Tasman meeting
Amon Saturday 13th February
Campbell 12th February

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Posted 09 July 2011 - 02:19

and a Gary Campbell....for Eshe to drool over
(I love the numbers)
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Both from the 1971 Warwick Farm Tasman meeting
Amon Saturday 13th February
Campbell 12th February


Ah Lynton, you keep putting these gems here..... :up:

#5624 ed holly

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Posted 09 July 2011 - 06:03

Hi fellow TNFers ...

I have a question about some wonderful photos I have been given by the family of Rodney Stevens. Rod passed away about 2 years ago and took around 1000 photos of Australian motorsport events from the late 1960s to the 1980s. Photos of all forms of motorsport, single seaters, sports cars, touring cars etc - even a few from the infamous Brickies.

My question is ... should I post them here on this forum, or should I start another thread, or should I post them elsewhere? Obviously with this number and my rate of posting it will take a long time to go through them all.

I would like to put them here, but there are a lot of them and the quality varies as you can see with the two that I have posted here.

So over to you guys ... what do you think?

Ed

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#5625 David McKinney

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Posted 09 July 2011 - 06:24

This seems the obvious place, Ed. Go for it

#5626 Eshe

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Posted 09 July 2011 - 09:02

Escort driver Rod Stevens at Amaroo in the late 70's...is this the same person as the photographer referred to in Ed's post?

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#5627 Lee Nicolle

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Posted 09 July 2011 - 09:12

This seems the obvious place, Ed. Go for it

Agreed

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Posted 09 July 2011 - 22:04

Hi fellow TNFers ...

I have a question about some wonderful photos I have been given by the family of Rodney Stevens. Rod passed away about 2 years ago and took around 1000 photos of Australian motorsport events from the late 1960s to the 1980s. Photos of all forms of motorsport, single seaters, sports cars, touring cars etc - even a few from the infamous Brickies.

My question is ... should I post them here on this forum, or should I start another thread, or should I post them elsewhere? Obviously with this number and my rate of posting it will take a long time to go through them all.

I would like to put them here, but there are a lot of them and the quality varies as you can see with the two that I have posted here.

So over to you guys ... what do you think?

Ed


Ed,

Post some here by all means, we would love to see them.

BUT

If you want to perpetuate Rods memory in a more permanent way and medium, then contact the NFSA or Nat Library Aust about archiving his collection:

http://www.nfsa.gov.au/

http://www.pictureaustralia.org/ or your local State Library...

There are also commercial sites like Autopics that are more immune to the myriad of things that can go wrong with images on this and other similar sights that invariably end in no images just the dreaded red and white crosses in a box.

Cheers, Mick

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Posted 10 July 2011 - 02:53

Just found this one of Neil Hammond's from Calder 1982.

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Since we have some sticklers for factuality here, without wishing to lower the level of some these magnificent open-wheeler photos with a tin-top photo, I just realised that this photo was not me - it was Lou Renato from western Vic somewhere - Mildura perhaps? I now recall that he did an absolutely doomed kamikaze run down the inside, passed me like I was stopped (I was stopping - hard on the brakes) and took-out a very irate Peter McKay, who, thinking it was me, came and gave me an absolute earful later.

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Posted 10 July 2011 - 10:04

Since we have some sticklers for factuality here, without wishing to lower the level of some these magnificent open-wheeler photos with a tin-top photo, I just realised that this photo was not me - it was Lou Renato from western Vic somewhere - Mildura perhaps? I now recall that he did an absolutely doomed kamikaze run down the inside, passed me like I was stopped (I was stopping - hard on the brakes) and took-out a very irate Peter McKay, who, thinking it was me, came and gave me an absolute earful later.

Lou Renato was (is?) from Shepparton.

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Posted 10 July 2011 - 11:14

Ron Thorpe?

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George Garth?

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#5632 brucemoxon

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Posted 10 July 2011 - 11:27

King Edward Park, Sherpa?



Bruce Moxon

#5633 sherpa

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Posted 10 July 2011 - 11:37

Yes, I think late sixties
Cheers Greg

#5634 Ray Bell

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Posted 10 July 2011 - 13:51

And yes, the Cobra is Ron Thorp...

The Cortina is George Garth.

#5635 Dale Harvey

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Posted 10 July 2011 - 21:35

The Milano maybe Dick Willis but I am sure he will say yes or no. George's Cortina still in it's pushrod form in this shot.

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Posted 11 July 2011 - 05:57

The Milano maybe Dick Willis but I am sure he will say yes or no. George's Cortina still in it's pushrod form in this shot.

Dale.


Spot on Dale, "uknown ! " we will have to educate some of these guys ! and if it was 1966 I knocked off the Cobra that day.

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Posted 11 July 2011 - 07:01

You knocked a few people off the top spot in hillclimbing Dick over the years. :up:

Edited by eldougo, 11 July 2011 - 07:02.


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Posted 11 July 2011 - 08:14

I reckon that looks just like the car that Kenny Mitchell sold to Clark Watson and Matty Liersch

Other than that, I agree with all the above



#5639 Dick Willis

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Posted 11 July 2011 - 08:57

Thanks guys, pity though the Milano isn't green now as it was in the above pic.

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Posted 13 July 2011 - 09:23

Just noticed the Pedro Rodriguez thread. 40 years since he died.
Here are two photos from 1968 - any other pics around?

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Posted 13 July 2011 - 10:00

Few shots from Longford '68 Rod.
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#5642 Wirra

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Posted 13 July 2011 - 10:05

Touche

Nothing like them this end - thanks for posting.

#5643 terry mcgrath

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Posted 14 July 2011 - 00:51

There are a couple of interesting pics of Longford on EBAY at present

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#5644 Ray Bell

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Posted 14 July 2011 - 02:59

Wonder who took them?

And I'm a little surprised that they've done nothing about identifying the cars even though they have a programme!

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Posted 14 July 2011 - 23:03

Wonder who took them?

And I'm a little surprised that they've done nothing about identifying the cars even though they have a programme!

I recognise Les Howard in the 23 at Pub corner, first run on 'Howard' head and achived 141MPH on the flying mile (not bad for 1100cc)

#5646 Ray Bell

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Posted 14 July 2011 - 23:30

Yeah, I had noticed that too, Geoff...

And not very far behind the 1500 twin cam of Lionel Ayers, either.

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Posted 15 July 2011 - 02:37

Yeah, I had noticed that too, Geoff...

And not very far behind the 1500 twin cam of Lionel Ayers, either.


These photos are quite common. There are many 'original prints' in circulation of these two (and some other) images from 1966 and 1967. I have smaller original prints of the same images, which came in a cache of original material ex LMRA which was found when the old control tower at Symmons Plains was cleaned out prior to demolition some years ago. These images were taken from high vantage points, probably the control tower at start line and a special purpose photographer's stand setup at Longford corner, so would have been one of the professional photographers. The LMRA exercised great control over photogrphers after the 1965 D'Abrera / Trezise accident (D'Abrera was in a prohibited area) and they were forced to use stands and locations provided, and could not wander as freely as they once did. The police were under strict instruction to not allow photographers to move from designated locations. There were issues.......

Rob Saward

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Posted 15 July 2011 - 02:54

I recognise Les Howard in the 23 at Pub corner, first run on 'Howard' head and achived 141MPH on the flying mile (not bad for 1100cc)

Very good for 1100cc!

#5649 Ray Bell

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Posted 15 July 2011 - 04:58

Originally posted by austmcreg
.....The LMRA exercised great control over photographers after the 1965 D'Abrera/Tresize accident (D'Abrera was in a prohibited area).....


That surprises me...

I personally knew three photographers in that area in the first two laps of that race, Peter Hopwood with his movie camera and Robin D'Abrera and Ray Simpson were standing together when the Cooper came at them.

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Posted 15 July 2011 - 05:14

Perhaps, like many trackside areas, the site was prohibited to the public, but photographers could go anywhere. That was certainly the situation in NZ at the time, though the marshals would move on anyone who was in a really stupid position