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#6951 Lee Nicolle

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Posted 09 May 2012 - 07:46

The reason for my derisory comment about Southwark is based on what beer drinkers used to tell me...

In my work, I used to ask people what brand they drank and that sort of thing, nobody ever had a good word for the stuff. And a lot had a bad word for it.

You are not one of those marketing research people? An ex g/f did that actual survey probably 5 years ago about beers. Probably done by every company every year.

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#6952 ken devine

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Posted 09 May 2012 - 08:55

In 1974 i was at a convention in Adelaide i tried a Southwark what foul stuff it was, needless to say it was a very dry weekend until
someone found some Fosters. When we attended the Grand Prixs the pub we used the most kept some Fosters on hand.
I have an unopened can of Southwark i just wonder what it is like now.

#6953 AnnieOz

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Posted 09 May 2012 - 11:40

Hence Green Death - the labelling was predominantly an ugly green. If it was your first taste of beer it often your last!!! And yes it is still made, predominantly long necks. Kevin didn't drink it or anything else that wasn't lemonade or Big Sars

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#6954 Ray Bell

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Posted 09 May 2012 - 11:53

He always was an intelligent man...

The only one I ever struck who owned pre-WW1 twin choke side draught carbies.

#6955 Lee Nicolle

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Posted 09 May 2012 - 12:28

Just got an email from a mate lurking on this site. He mentioned the most famous Southwark add of a lifetime, the Southwark carton across Moffats GTHO grille in 71 at Bathurst.

#6956 fredeuce

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Posted 09 May 2012 - 22:03

In the pic of Ron Smiths Talbot/Darracq in the pits I speculated about the other cars in the background and the Potts family.

Well, Bollyblog has come to the rescue and forwarded to me some more of his collection taken on the same day. Thanks Bolly, enjoy.

As for the discussion on Green Death and the relief obtained by downing Fosters instead, I have to say I put them both in the same category. That being so Fosters is : "the Blue can of death"! Give me some Coopers Pale or Sparkly and i'm happy. James Squires is very good too.

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#6957 brucemoxon

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Posted 09 May 2012 - 23:19

As for the discussion on Green Death and the relief obtained by downing Fosters instead, I have to say I put them both in the same category. That being so Fosters is : "the Blue can of death"! Give me some Coopers Pale or Sparkly and i'm happy. James Squires is very good too.


Ahhh. Coopers Sparkling Ale. Cloudy but fine. Lunatic soup. Kidney cleanser. Seriously damaged myself once or twice on this stuff. It used to come in pints at Jackson's on George in Sydney. Lovely soft gutters outside that place.

I always thought it was VB (vomit bomb) carton on Moffat's car? Then I just checked on Autopics and found it (http://www.autopics....c.html?cache=no) - Southwark indeed. I agree as to the 'quality' of the stuff, by the way. They build 'em tough in Adelaide, obviously.




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#6958 Glenn Moulds

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Posted 09 May 2012 - 23:42

Ahhh. Coopers Sparkling Ale. Cloudy but fine. Lunatic soup. Kidney cleanser. Seriously damaged myself once or twice on this stuff. It used to come in pints at Jackson's on George in Sydney. Lovely soft gutters outside that place.

Bruce Moxon


Bruce, good to hear your extensive product testing has finally been useful :lol:

#6959 Dick Willis

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Posted 10 May 2012 - 02:51

Is the MG Special in post number 6956 that of Tom Stevens ? Any idea what year it was ?

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#6960 john medley

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Posted 10 May 2012 - 03:19

Yes, Dick, that is the Tom Stevens car -- but, unexpectedly, not the Potts MG Special which you and Uncle Tom Cobley and all later owned.

Annie, look at all the trouble and navel gazing your innocent comment inspired! Hope to be in S Aust soon... See you there if not at Winton
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Small Postscript. One of the cars the Potts father and son obtained back then( from Kevin Shearer, indeed) was a sort of HRG copy based on an upturned Alvis Silver Eagle chassis originally Jim Gosse's 21st birthday present 1929. Hoping it was another HRG-ish car, they however let it go-- and after decades it now sits in my shed, retored with a flathead Ford V8 in it. Still manages to look HRG-ish, but goes a lot harder.

#6961 Dick Willis

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Posted 10 May 2012 - 03:39

Maybe it would go harder John, if you uncrossed the plug wires and got it to run on all 8 cylinders.

The Tom Stevens TA/TB Special was later owned for many years by the Molina family and I believe it has recently been sold, anyone know who to ?



#6962 Lee Nicolle

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Posted 10 May 2012 - 06:07

Ahhh. Coopers Sparkling Ale. Cloudy but fine. Lunatic soup. Kidney cleanser. Seriously damaged myself once or twice on this stuff. It used to come in pints at Jackson's on George in Sydney. Lovely soft gutters outside that place.

I always thought it was VB (vomit bomb) carton on Moffat's car? Then I just checked on Autopics and found it (http://www.autopics....c.html?cache=no) - Southwark indeed. I agree as to the 'quality' of the stuff, by the way. They build 'em tough in Adelaide, obviously.




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Fosters goes down quite well BUT with me at least it gives huge headaches after. And I mean in moderation eg half a dozen through the course of an evening.I had to stop drinking it as it triggered a couple of migranes that lasted several days.
Southwark never did that to me.
Until recently my favoritr tipple was Fosters Light Ice. It seems no longer advailable so I am drinking Coopers light now which is quite nice. And $25 a carton. Cheap as Coke!

#6963 Dick Willis

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Posted 10 May 2012 - 06:22

Methinks the beer debate should be the subject of another thread, and hardly appropriate for TNF.

#6964 Catalina Park

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Posted 10 May 2012 - 08:07

Methinks the beer debate should be the subject of another thread, and hardly appropriate for TNF.

Agreed, unless we can steer the beer discussion towards the Jones family from Lithgow (owners of the Zig Zag Brewery) and Mrs Jones Alfa.

#6965 GreenMachine

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Posted 10 May 2012 - 09:56

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Had to smile at her ladyship posing for the camera, only to have some yobbo barge in and spoil it!

(Apologies to the yobbo if you are reading this :wave: :rotfl: )

And what is that young bloke holding, the one eying off her ladyship?

#6966 ed holly

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Posted 10 May 2012 - 09:57



More Rod Stevens' photos

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The bottom left is from a meeting other than the other 3, Yes I know its obvious ....

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#6967 Lee Nicolle

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Posted 10 May 2012 - 11:52

Had to smile at her ladyship posing for the camera, only to have some yobbo barge in and spoil it!

(Apologies to the yobbo if you are reading this :wave: :rotfl: )

And what is that young bloke holding, the one eying off her ladyship?

Most of those blokes have their eye on the young lady!

#6968 Librules

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Posted 10 May 2012 - 13:17

Maybe it would go harder John, if you uncrossed the plug wires and got it to run on all 8 cylinders.

The Tom Stevens TA/TB Special was later owned for many years by the Molina family and I believe it has recently been sold, anyone know who to ?


Graham Howard noted its sale last week in Auto Action to David Bell of Melbourne. He has some nice cars, including some which I believe belonged to his late father and he is a regular hillclimber, so hopefully we'll see it running back up Rob Roy soon..............

#6969 bollyblog

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Posted 10 May 2012 - 23:31

Most of those blokes have their eye on the young lady!

She's not young anymore.

#6970 ron simmonds

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Posted 11 May 2012 - 01:01

Graham Howard noted its sale last week in Auto Action to David Bell of Melbourne. He has some nice cars, including some which I believe belonged to his late father and he is a regular hillclimber, so hopefully we'll see it running back up Rob Roy soon..............

David ran the MG at the VHRR historic meeting held at Rob Roy on April the 22nd and did quite well for his first outing in the car. He even drove to the meeting, as the car now has club permit plates, allowing it to be driven to and from events, just the car to slip down to the shops for the bread and milk, no lights, no guards and a very nice noise out the back. David will still drive his late fathers (Richard) Railton from time to time as well, at selected meetings. Cheers Simmo.

#6971 GreenMachine

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Posted 11 May 2012 - 01:02

She's not young anymore.



... neither am I, but I still have my imagination, and a few memories ...  ;)

#6972 fredeuce

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Posted 13 May 2012 - 22:56

Some more of Bollyblogs collection from the same meeting at Collingrove.

Let the guessing begin.


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#6973 fredeuce

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Posted 13 May 2012 - 23:02

Another batch of Bolly's pics from the same meeting.

Check out those longnecks of in the boot of the Elan! Green Death perhaps ? !! :lol:

Okay , any guesses as to what the cars are and who the drivers are?

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#6974 brucemoxon

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Posted 14 May 2012 - 00:50

Another batch of Bolly's pics from the same meeting.

Check out those longnecks of in the boot of the Elan! Green Death perhaps ? !! :lol:

Okay , any guesses as to what the cars are and who the drivers are?

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Is that an SS100 with cycle guards?




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#6975 GMACKIE

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Posted 14 May 2012 - 02:38

Couldn't help noticing the FVee, with an appropriate tow-car. :up:

#6976 hogits2

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Posted 14 May 2012 - 07:09

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Possibly Don Lemm's Imp & Bruce Porter's S800

#6977 Lola5000

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Posted 14 May 2012 - 07:36

ex Bira K3 to the right

#6978 Lee Nicolle

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Posted 14 May 2012 - 07:48

Possibly Don Lemm's Imp & Bruce Porter's S800

I dont think that Don is that old.That pic is about 1968 or 69

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Posted 14 May 2012 - 07:50

HK Panel Van at rear of shot so must be at least 1968 if not '69

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#6980 Lee Nicolle

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Posted 14 May 2012 - 07:58

HK Panel Van at rear of shot so must be at least 1968 if not '69

Thats what I based my comment on, and Don is about my age so probably did not have a drivers liscence then.

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Posted 14 May 2012 - 08:09

Thats what I based my comment on, and Don is about my age so probably did not have a drivers liscence then.



Is he still fibbing about his age?


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From
The gallery of John Lemm
Story and pictures by John
HILLMAN CAR CLUB
OF SOUTH AUSTRALIA INC
My older brother Don bought a Hillman GT (there's really no such thing as an Imp GT!) in August 1967 and ran it in a hillclimb a month later. He used it in quite a lot of motor sport in the four years that he owned it, before trading it on a Cooper S. In that time he also rolled it and had an engine bay fire.
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I used to navigate in his Mini.

#6982 Lee Nicolle

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Posted 14 May 2012 - 08:31

Is he still fibbing about his age?


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From
The gallery of John Lemm
Story and pictures by John
HILLMAN CAR CLUB
OF SOUTH AUSTRALIA INC
My older brother Don bought a Hillman GT (there's really no such thing as an Imp GT!) in August 1967 and ran it in a hillclimb a month later. He used it in quite a lot of motor sport in the four years that he owned it, before trading it on a Cooper S. In that time he also rolled it and had an engine bay fire.
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I used to navigate in his Mini.

I have not seen Don for quite a while but have seen both Phil and John recently, both at PI.

#6983 bollyblog

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Posted 14 May 2012 - 11:05

I dont think that Don is that old.That pic is about 1968 or 69

1968 it was.

#6984 Wirra

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Posted 16 May 2012 - 00:39

This car ?
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...Reading through the program listings I have it appears to have been raced betrween 68 and 71 with Brian S Milton. I also have a copy of the log book application, it says it was supercharged 1593cc in the application.

Brian drove a car designated a M.V.W.1 s/c Special from 65-67 (before the Mako) ...


I wonder if anyone has any background on this car, i.e. the Mako? Thanks.

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#6985 Ray Bell

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Posted 16 May 2012 - 00:55

That is not the MVW...

Certainly, it's not as I remember it. This car is a Vee, though it's obviously got a bit more enthusiastic somewhere along the way.

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Posted 16 May 2012 - 01:08

...Brian drove a car designated a M.V.W.1 s/c Special from 65-67 (before the Mako.)...

I cropped too much off Ian's reply.

I would still like information on the Mako.

As per the FV thread here is the MVW.

http://www.autopics....ibiznez?id=4592

#6987 Ray Bell

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Posted 16 May 2012 - 01:51

Yeah, that's the car...

Ugly as sin, but one man's attempt to go racing. And he succeeded.

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Posted 19 May 2012 - 04:03

Is that an SS100 with cycle guards?
That SS100 has always had cycle guards as long as I've known it.



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#6989 brucemoxon

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Posted 20 May 2012 - 01:55

I'd only ever seen them with running boards, like this one...

http://www.google.co...t...wBQ&dur=261




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Posted 20 May 2012 - 08:43

I'd only ever seen them with running boards, like this one...
Don't they look beautiful? Running boards and all.
http://www.google.co...t...wBQ&dur=261




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Posted 20 May 2012 - 21:34

Car on left in post 6972 is the Ballot Oldsmobile, next to Peter Bradey's ( Tom Bradey's/ Phillip Bradey's/ John Gillett's)ex John Snow MG K3. The enthusiastic drinker in post 6973 looks like Peter Bradey.

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Posted 21 May 2012 - 05:21

Car on left in post 6972 is the Ballot Oldsmobile, next to Peter Bradey's ( Tom Bradey's/ Phillip Bradey's/ John Gillett's)ex John Snow MG K3. The enthusiastic drinker in post 6973 looks like Peter Bradey.

Peter Bradey and Peter Taylor.

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Posted 21 May 2012 - 06:50

Car on left in post 6972 is the Ballot Oldsmobile, next to Peter Bradey's ( Tom Bradey's/ Phillip Bradey's/ John Gillett's)ex John Snow MG K3. The enthusiastic drinker in post 6973 looks like Peter Bradey.



The thing that I see in the photo's is that there are NO overweight people, what has happened to me :cry:

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Posted 21 May 2012 - 07:07

I cropped too much off Ian's reply.

I would still like information on the Mako.

As per the FV thread here is the MVW.

http://www.autopics....ibiznez?id=4592


Around the same time Trevor (Spike) Jones built the SMV as a FV if it ran as a Vee I don't know but it soon had a 1500cc motor & was soon running as a Div 1 car at Oran Park but towards the rear of the field, not bad for a home made car.

A car & driver that outgrew Div 2 but did not have the money to continue with better equipment, Spike later drove the SCV series of cars for Jack Wortmeyer in Hill Climbs.

He also became a Billycart Champion after motor racing.

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Posted 21 May 2012 - 11:24

The thing that I see in the photo's is that there are NO overweight people, what has happened to me :cry:

Overweight people are a modern phenomena.

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Posted 21 May 2012 - 13:52

Overweight people are a modern phenomena.


Really? Fatty Arbuckle must have been really extraordinary!

:well:

#6997 GMACKIE

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Posted 21 May 2012 - 21:09

He was the exception, hence the name "Fatty".

#6998 fredeuce

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Posted 01 June 2012 - 02:05

Folks, here are some slides which I have discovered in my brothers collection from his time in National Service spent at SME at Liverpool.

These shots, I believe, are of the "comeback" opening meeting at Amaroo Park on 31st May 1970. Only taken with an Instamatic but nonetheless capture some of the event.

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Posted 01 June 2012 - 02:08

Another batch. This group includes and interesting shot of Fred Gibson's R&T Chev.

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Posted 01 June 2012 - 02:13

Last batch. Brian Foley's Porsche and Lakis Manticas' in the Mini and also on the trailer in the last shot.

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