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#7051 fredeuce

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Posted 07 July 2012 - 01:52

A few random shots from the car park/pits at Collingrove in 1967.

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#7052 ed holly

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Posted 08 July 2012 - 22:00

These photos are kindly supplied by Bob Young. I posted them on the Lotus 22 in Australia forum, but they have a relevance here too.

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Bob is standing with the white overalls and striped sox

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Rear view the engine cover off.

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Bob's Formula Vee

#7053 chequer57

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Posted 14 July 2012 - 11:37

I'm biased, great shot of the Vee one of the Jack Bono owned cars.

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Posted 14 July 2012 - 21:42

I'm biased, great shot of the Vee one of the Jack Bono owned cars.

Those two Elfins were always immaculate [typical of J.B.]. Jack drove one, and Terry Quartly the other. There was a brand new Elfin 500 'kit' sitting in Jack's workshop at the time, and he sold it to me [he didn't have to try very hard].......Chassis No. 6821.

And fredeuce, I like the BMW R-69, with the 'Earls' front forks. :love:



#7055 ellrosso

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Posted 01 August 2012 - 02:10

Found this in amongst a box of my father's slides on the weekend. Symmons 1973 F2 round. Leo Geoghegan and Bob Skelton out front with Leffo and maybe Tony Stewart in the Dolphin behind. John Bowe is up the back in his red Elfin 600 FF (modified though at this stage)

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Posted 01 August 2012 - 04:38

I have been looking through some old negs and found this shot from Warwick Farm Esses in 1967. I think it was at the AJC Trophy meeting.Does anyone have other shots from this race? As you can see it was close with everyone trying hard.

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Understeer, netral and oversteer illustrated in the same photo.

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#7057 David Shaw

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Posted 01 August 2012 - 07:41

Cusack, Martin and Harvey

#7058 Ray Bell

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Posted 01 August 2012 - 10:02

Originally posted by ellrosso
Found this in amongst a box of my father's slides on the weekend. Symmons 1973 F2 round. Leo Geoghegan and Bob Skelton out front with Leffo and maybe Tony Stewart in the Dolphin behind. John Bowe is up the back in his red Elfin 600 FF (modified though at this stage)

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Yes, Skello off pole in the P6, Leo getting the jump on him in his Birrana...

But inside the second row was Enno Buesselmann and the Dolphin is Chris Farrell. The third row was Bruce Allison and Ian Fergussson, who is clearly enough discernable.

A good pic of the circuit there...

#7059 ed holly

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Posted 11 August 2012 - 07:51

Its been a while since we seen some more of Rod Stevens' photos ... so here are a few more ...

As usual if anyone wants a particular photo at higher res - just let me know ...

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#7060 Ray Bell

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Posted 11 August 2012 - 12:31

Batch 28:

Top left is Phil Ward, lower left seems to be Graham Ryan in the EH, lower right is George Garth.

Batch 29:

Top left is George Garth pressed by, I think, Don Holland, with Graham Wood in the Brolga next. Lower left is Jack Brabham, lower right might be Terry Hook, but I'd need a bigger pic to say definitely.

Batch 31:

Top left is Niel Allen in the ME5 heading into the Northern Crossing in practice, top right is John Harvey in the McLaren in the esses.

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Posted 14 August 2012 - 03:03

Could you post a high res of bottom left photo of batch 31?

Do you know the date of the event?

Stephen

Its been a while since we seen some more of Rod Stevens' photos ... so here are a few more ...

As usual if anyone wants a particular photo at higher res - just let me know ...

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#7062 lyntonh

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Posted 20 August 2012 - 11:46

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Creek Corner Warwick Farm November 1970

#7063 Ray Bell

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Posted 20 August 2012 - 12:34

The pic of Harvey in the M6 is from the May 1972 meeting...

I can't work out the Niel Allen pic's date, but I believe it would be early in the car's life, probably its first outing in 1970.

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Posted 20 August 2012 - 19:25

I meant to add these to that message:

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:confused: Why, why, why use A4 Landscape format - it won't fit on any normal bookshelf! :mad:

Mind you that doesn't mean I wouldn't like a copy. :)

#7065 Ray Bell

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Posted 20 August 2012 - 21:03

That's not my decision, Duncan...

However, I will say that this is a book that can be left on the coffee table, there's so much in it for quick reads that it can stay there a long time.

Long enough for you to build an appropriate bookshelf, perhaps?

#7066 seldo

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Posted 21 August 2012 - 02:32

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:confused: Why, why, why use A4 Landscape format - it won't fit on any normal bookshelf! :mad:

Mind you that doesn't mean I wouldn't like a copy. :)
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Perhaps because most photographs are shot in landscape....

#7067 D-Type

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Posted 21 August 2012 - 08:03

Ray, this wasn't meant as a criticism of your book in particular - it's more a comment on the genre.

Landscape format books and overly large ones are a pain in the proverbial. I have a fairly standard bookshelf (Ikea 'Billy' which they claim is a word best-seller) and I find that about half a dozen books overhang and landscape format books have to lie flat. Half a dozen books, not necessarily the same ones, dictate the height I can set the shelves to. The result is that the height available for the final shelf is too little to be useful. If publishers limited their maximum size to A4 portrait I'd be a lot happier. I accept that larger pages allow more flexibility in page layout, but do we really need three columns of text etc?

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#7068 Ray Bell

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Posted 21 August 2012 - 10:08

There are plenty of full-page photos, Duncan...

Other than that, I repeat, it wasn't up to me. But I also guarantee that the book will absorb you.

#7069 Stephen W

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Posted 21 August 2012 - 10:14

:confused: Why, why, why use A4 Landscape format - it won't fit on any normal bookshelf! :mad:


Perhaps because most photographs are shot in landscape....


Also by selecting Landscape rather than portrait it maximises the impact of the photos. Also if you look at 'photo books' that use the portrait format the individual photos tend to be smaller than in the other format.



#7070 Julian Roberts

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Posted 21 August 2012 - 10:19

Ray, this wasn't meant as a criticism of your book in particular - it's more a comment on the genre.

Landscape format books and overly large ones are a pain in the proverbial. I have a fairly standard bookshelf (Ikea 'Billy' which they claim is a word best-seller) and I find that about half a dozen books overhang and landscape format books have to lie flat. Half a dozen books, not necessarily the same ones, dictate the height I can set the shelves to. The result is that the height available for the final shelf is too little to be useful. If publishers limited their maximum size to A4 portrait I'd be a lot happier. I accept that larger pages allow more flexibility in page layout, but do we really need three columns of text etc?


I couldn't agree more, most of Chris Nixon's books (but irritatingly not all) are printed Landscape and I am yet to find anywhere I can store mine in a way which remotely pleases the eye. Too low and there's a risk the vacuum cleaner with bash into them, too high and it's just plain ugly. Also, I think the pages warp if left flat on their sides too long.


#7071 scran

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Posted 21 August 2012 - 12:47

For gods sake - I don't care WHAT format the book is in - I just WANT ONE!!!!!!!!!!


ANd before you all start, I have SEVERAL - read 15 or so - "landscape" books on IKEA bookshelves in my study now, I just deal with it.

GET ON WITH YOUR LIVES!!!!



(or stop stealing oxygen!)

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#7072 Librules

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Posted 21 August 2012 - 17:54

Well spoken, sir! I'd feel differently if we were discussing a book on Giraffes though.

#7073 Ray Bell

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Posted 21 August 2012 - 23:51

Originally posted by scran
For gods sake - I don't care WHAT format the book is in - I just WANT ONE!


So happy to hear that...

At the moment we're on tenterhooks for the launch. The ship carrying the books had to turn back because of a typhoon, it was due in tomorrow, now it's going to be a week later.

The launch was scheduled for Friday August 1 and we're hoping it can still happen on that day, but as you can see, it's going to be tight!

A number of people saw the prototype book at Silverstone when John Ellacott took it over there, others saw it here, but Tony tells me that the production copies look even better, the colours in the pics are brighter and that sort of thing.

#7074 seldo

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Posted 22 August 2012 - 00:26

So happy to hear that...

At the moment we're on tenterhooks for the launch. The ship carrying the books had to turn back because of a typhoon, it was due in tomorrow, now it's going to be a week later.

The launch was scheduled for Friday August 1 and we're hoping it can still happen on that day, but as you can see, it's going to be tight!

A number of people saw the prototype book at Silverstone when John Ellacott took it over there, others saw it here, but Tony tells me that the production copies look even better, the colours in the pics are brighter and that sort of thing.

Sounds fantastic! Can't wait

#7075 Ray Bell

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Posted 22 August 2012 - 00:37

For Brisbane people I'll be doing a presentation of the book at the HRCC of Qld club meeting in September...

I'll have an adequate number of copies there to enable many to happily go home with a copy under their arm.

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Posted 22 August 2012 - 05:17

..The launch was scheduled for Friday August 1 and we're hoping it can still happen on that day, but as you can see, it's going to be tight!...


Eleven and a half months should be plenty of time! Did you mean Friday 31st August?

Ray - see the e-mail I sent you and let me know your thoughts.

And, just to keep the thread on track - Warwick Brown in one of his first drives in an F5000
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Posted 22 August 2012 - 05:40

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Thought I would post these slides in the event someone might recognise the track or participants.
Bought them off ebay in the hope there was something of interest on them.
Not the best pic's, but maybe of interest.
Would have liked more open wheelers, but the bikes won !
The slides were processed in April 1971 if that helps with a date.
Bit hard to work out the open wheelers, though someone might know the bikes or possibly the mangled Mini
or the busted helmet (Maybe belonged to the mini driver - don't know)
Have put 3 or 4 a page as there is only about 15 pic's.



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Posted 22 August 2012 - 05:44

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Posted 22 August 2012 - 05:47

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#7081 275 GTB-4

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Posted 22 August 2012 - 06:45

Hmmm in the tropics and lots of Malay looking people but cars available in Australia in the car park...Singers?? Butterworth??

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Posted 22 August 2012 - 07:00

Hmmm in the tropics and lots of Malay looking people but cars available in Australia in the car park...Singers?? Butterworth??



Mmmmm, the carpark might be a red herring I think as I thought it was April but under light looks like it might be actually be a feint Jan,
so maybe not related ... Kodak were a bit sloppy stamping the dates on some lots of frames and it's very feint, but all the others are April 71.
You're right about the crowd too, zoomed in a bit and looks to be a largely asian crownd.

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Posted 22 August 2012 - 07:07

Yes! so Singapore or a Malaysian circuit...but if the car park is IN, just noticed the water bags hanging off the front of some cars...so maybe Australian mainland - up north!! :)

#7084 Ray Bell

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Posted 22 August 2012 - 07:53

Where up north, Mick?

None of the racing photos are Australia, I suspect Singapore or Malaya. But the carpark is an odd one out and I feel sure it's not even at a circuit. Perhaps a military base, probably in Australia, likely Townsville or I'd throw in somewhere like Toowoomba or Tasmania into the ring. Kapooka is not impossible, either.

I don't see any waterbags, either. But with the older Holdens in the pack it's unlikely that the cars were shipped to an overseas posting anywhere.

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Posted 22 August 2012 - 08:26

I am pretty sure it is Singapore. I will let you know more in a few minutes...

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Posted 22 August 2012 - 08:42

Thought I would post these slides in the event someone might recognise the track or participants.
Bought them off ebay in the hope there was something of interest on them.
Not the best pic's, but maybe of interest.
Would have liked more open wheelers, but the bikes won !
The slides were processed in April 1971 if that helps with a date.
Bit hard to work out the open wheelers, though someone might know the bikes or possibly the mangled Mini
or the busted helmet (Maybe belonged to the mini driver - don't know)
Have put 3 or 4 a page as there is only about 15 pic's.


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The first and third photos show Graeme Lawrence on his way to winning the 1971 Singapore Grand Prix.
The second photo I think is John Macdonald in his Brabham.
The driver of the crashed Mini is Karsano (I can't find his first name) and is one of the Newton Racing Enterprises cars.


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Posted 22 August 2012 - 09:25

That is Graeme Lawrence comming out of the pits and onto the track for the Singapore Gp ..
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Posted 22 August 2012 - 09:32

[quote name='Ray Bell' date='Aug 22 2012, 17:53' post='5878

But the carpark is an odd one out and I feel sure it's not even at a circuit. Perhaps a military base, probably in Australia, likely Townsville or I'd throw in somewhere like Toowoomba or Tasmania into the ring. Kapooka is not impossible, either.


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The oldest the carpark photo can be is 1968 (Maroon Datsun 1600) and as most of the number plates appear to be yellow and black, you would think it is in NSW somewhere, unless........ it is in W.A. who also had Y&B plates, and is of course closer to Singapore.



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Posted 22 August 2012 - 10:01

The oldest the carpark photo can be is 1968 (Maroon Datsun 1600) and as most of the number plates appear to be yellow and black, you would think it is in NSW somewhere, unless........ it is in W.A. who also had Y&B plates, and is of course closer to Singapore.

The Morris 1100 next to the Datsun is also a 68 car (I can tell!) The newest Holden is a HR which finished in 68.



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Posted 22 August 2012 - 10:15

But is the brownie/maroonie sports bottom left a Jowett?? or TR?? :|

#7091 Ray Bell

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Posted 22 August 2012 - 10:22

Originally posted by wagons46
The oldest the carpark photo can be is 1968 (Maroon Datsun 1600) and as most of the number plates appear to be yellow and black, you would think it is in NSW somewhere, unless........ it is in W.A. who also had Y&B plates, and is of course closer to Singapore.


I think it's reasonable to accept 1971 as the rough dating...

It's really the location. Are there hills that look like that in WA? The hills and sky do look Tasmanian, but not out of place at the other locations I've mentioned. Nor impossible elsewhere, of course, but it does tend to narrow it down.

If we do accept some kind of military base, it wouldn't be out of place for numberplates from all over to be seen there. Nashos with not-quite-new cars too.

Mick... what do you mean? It's obviously a TR4 or TR4A!

What's the car next to it, that's a bit of a question to me?

#7092 Ray Bell

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Posted 22 August 2012 - 10:25

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Posted 22 August 2012 - 10:28

What's the car next to it, that's a bit of a question to me?

Austin A 40 Farina.

The Hills look Canberra, the buildings don't. :lol:

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Posted 22 August 2012 - 10:37

Austin A 40 Farina.

The Hills look Canberra, the buildings don't. :lol:


Not Can'tberra...thats for sure!!

A40 huh...yeah maybe...thought it might have been a Fiat 1100...

(you thawed out yet? :) )

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#7095 Ray Bell

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Posted 22 August 2012 - 10:40

I'd agree on both points there...

A40 Farina, but looking a bit out of place. And the hills could well be Canberra, which might mean Fairbairn or the airport.

That would readily account for the different numberplates too. But not the multitude of water ba... sorry, we don't see those, do we?

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Posted 22 August 2012 - 10:49

I think it's reasonable to accept 1971 as the rough dating...
What's the car next to it, that's a bit of a question to me?


If we are looking at 1971 it is strange that there is not one HK, HT, HG or even HQ Holden in the area. I thought A/40 Farina as well. The blue car in the 2nd row is a Fiat 1100.

The sandy soil in the park and foreground is also a WA feature.

We must be careful that this doesn't go OT for too long.

Edited by wagons46, 22 August 2012 - 11:06.


#7097 275 GTB-4

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Posted 22 August 2012 - 11:11

The sandy soil in the park and foreground is also a WA feature.


So...maybe...Bullsbrook? :)

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Posted 22 August 2012 - 11:14

Some cars have yellow liscence plates, these weren't used in WA until around 1976. The buildings in the background mean it could be an army camp.

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Posted 22 August 2012 - 12:45

Some cars have yellow liscence plates, these weren't used in WA until around 1976. The buildings in the background mean it could be an army camp.


Dark Brown car on the RHS is Renault 10 65-71

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#7100 Ray Bell

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Posted 22 August 2012 - 20:52

Originally posted by 275 GTB-4
Not Can'tberra...thats for sure!


Why not? The hills are just like Canberra, the types of buildings in the background could well have been very different in the sixties...

What did the ADFA site look like in those days?

A40 huh...yeah maybe...thought it might have been a Fiat 1100...


Not a chance... a skinny Fiat 1800 perhaps.